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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ensapa on May 01, 2012, 03:01:52 AM
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That's right! Here are more interesting things that Tibetans themselves are saying about lobsang sangay.'
Im also an angry Tibetan and a disappointed one here is why:
Journalists, thinkers, leaders, the Chinese and the conscious Tibetans including myself are laughing at the most stupid and silly response Lobsang Sangye has given. I have nothing against this man, except after watching a few of his interviews he is a man made of stories, but with little substance. He fails to strike hard for Tibetans on the political world stage.
I think he thinks he still running for Kalon Tripa as he never fails to remind the media and the world of his 16 years of Harvard. Who cares Lobsang Sangye??! What were you doing for 16 years anyway? After 16 yrs i would have hoped you could have delivered the most basic media soundbite the one which no Tibetan fails to answer.
As soon as the words rolled off your tongue, Tibetans haven’t had a country, alarm bells should have been ringing in your head. Not that their is no air to breath, what the hell was that??
What a disappointment, yet again. But it is not his fault, people do make mistakes, but there have been a few now. The man needs more experience, he needs a few more years at Harvard.
Stop fucking up LS and drop your ego. There are many Tibetans who have gone to top universities who didnt need to spend 16 years there and have achieved better results than you. So stop talking about about yourself and more on the Tibet crisis. DUHHHHHHH!!
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but isnt that what the CTA does all the time? No substance and just talk?
We can forget about this clown lifting the ban, he's not man enough to do something important like that.
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For every political person, there will be bound to have people who like him, and many who do not like him. I am sure there are many people who do not like HH Dalai Lama, but even more people who like Him. Just one "dis-like" article does not mean anything, to me.
I am not trying to defend him or anything. I am not in favor of him either. What I am saying is this: since he is now the Prime Minister, and he will not be going away anytime soon, we should use the situation to our best advantage.
For example, since he is a Harvard grad, we should write letters to Harvard and inform them that his grad (16 years) is not practicing basic human rights.
Of course we also should not just put all hopes onto 1 person...
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For every political person, there will be bound to have people who like him, and many who do not like him. I am sure there are many people who do not like HH Dalai Lama, but even more people who like Him. Just one "dis-like" article does not mean anything, to me.
I am not trying to defend him or anything. I am not in favor of him either. What I am saying is this: since he is now the Prime Minister, and he will not be going away anytime soon, we should use the situation to our best advantage.
For example, since he is a Harvard grad, we should write letters to Harvard and inform them that his grad (16 years) is not practicing basic human rights.
Of course we also should not just put all hopes onto 1 person...
If one person thinks this way about him, it means that there are more people who share the same sentiments since they are all in one community. The idea within a community will probably not differ much between each individuals because they are all in the same condition. If we have feedback of this nature it does mean that even the Tibetans themselves do not feel very confident of Lobsang Sanggay's direction.
Although he is not going away anytime soon, it still means how low has CTA gone down to, to have to pick someone that is incompetent to lead them. Must be very very very disappointing for HHDL to see the prime minister hiding behind him and not being able to stand up and take charge of the whole situation. How can a leader not stand up for what is right and allow injustice and illogical bans to take place?
Religious bans should be religious bans in the first place and not carried on to the secular world where DS practitioners get alienated and they are literally destroyed just for having a belief that is not mainstream. What sort of tolerance is that? It is funny that they can tolerate religions that are considered hostile against Buddhism such as Bon but they cannot tolerate a Dharma protector.
With that aside, CTA has been downgraded ever since lobsang took over, and even then there has not been much news about CTA or that there are any developments or improvements although his statement regarding the immolation was a really, really stupid and bad statement that encouraged more of those when he should be telling people to not immolate themselves but to stay alive so that there is a future generation...
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I opine that Lobsang Sangye is a clown in office suits with all the other cronies of his in the CTA. Probably the head clown who leads a circus of other clowns! Forget about fighting for Tibetans for freedom or autonomy. He doesn't have the gall to fight for religious freedom in lifting the ban on Dorje Shugden's practice. He's just a clown on strings. Who are the puppeteers.....? CTA or is it the other way around? Maybe he was already groomed years ago to do what he's doing now, that is, actually NOTHING.
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As a Prime Minister, Lobsang Sangay has not done much for his people. I feel he is not strong enough to fight for what is right for his people as there’s hardly any improvement or development since he came to office. What is the point of being a Harvard graduate but does not have the guts to fight for religious freedom. Shouldn’t he be practicing human rights? What a big disappointment!
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Pgdharma it is very interesting since taking up the office of Kalon Tripa there has been no official statement from Lobsang Sangye about the Dorje Shugden issue. What sort of statesman will he be if he is afraid to take a position, the previous TGIE made a stand at least and we know where they stand. Can Lobsang Sangye keep on the fence forever? He is not typical of an American graduate who seeks to be heard and we all now how loud american grads are.
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For every political person, there will be bound to have people who like him, and many who do not like him. I am sure there are many people who do not like HH Dalai Lama, but even more people who like Him. Just one "dis-like" article does not mean anything, to me.
I am not trying to defend him or anything. I am not in favor of him either. What I am saying is this: since he is now the Prime Minister, and he will not be going away anytime soon, we should use the situation to our best advantage.
For example, since he is a Harvard grad, we should write letters to Harvard and inform them that his grad (16 years) is not practicing basic human rights.
Of course we also should not just put all hopes onto 1 person...
People have high hopes of their prime minister, it is normal as they rely their voices to be heard through their prime minister.
As a prime minister, no matter how ambitious you are, you are definitely bound by some political wind that hails the air whether you like it or not. I am more inclined to Kris's opinion, it is very hard for the prime minister to be liked by ALL of his people, infact, being a politican, you will be liked and dis-liked anyway.
Having said that, even though I am not a Tibetan, I do expect Dr Lobsang Sangay to do more since he was elected, but nothing much seems to be accomplished.
The quesrtion here is, is Dr lobsang Sangay the real leader that will unite all the Tibetans that are being split by the ban now??? let's not talk about free Tibet , how to free a country when your people are all divided by the ban and fighting each other???
Yes, like the title of this thread which says........"more love for Lobsang Sangay".......but how much more love do you need, Dr Lobsang Sangay???
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This is what a Tibetan, staying in Dharamsala thinks about Lobsang Sanggay and the reality of HHDL ruling tibet:
So, I just read HH’s statement and I’m a little scared. He talked quit a bit about emanation, which leads me to believe he has plans to install either a religious or secular head in the position he occupies right now. But here’s my concern, can someone else really fill in HH’s shoes? They are several centuries DEEP!
The Tibetan people have had a relationship with the Dalai Lama’s since the 5th was installed the spiritual and political head of Tibet by the Mongolians. Tibetans have sustained that devotion and dedication up until now. So what happens when all of a sudden someone who is not the Dalai Lama or his incarnation is installed in his place? It took centuries for the Tibetans to develop the type of devotion HH receives, can you really expect people to have that same type of relationship (again, developed over CENTURIES) to someone completely new? and some one possibly not even a spiritual (secular) leader?
This is SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF ME! I really hope HH is not planning on appointing a young Rinpoche or worse, Lobsang Sangay, in his place because they are virtually “STRANGERS” to the Tibetan people when it comes to the realm of leading both politically and spiritually the Tibetans have only experienced the leadership of the Dalai Lama and especially the 13th and 14th. So anyone stepping into those shoes who is not the Dalai Lama is, for me, a stranger!
Can the Tibetans accept a stranger as their leader over night? I mean WHAT THE HELL, I’m not ready for a STRANGER! I’m sorry but anyone besides HH in HH’s position is a STRANGER no matter what you say…lemme stress, HH has been in this position SINCE THE 16th CENTURY!
I think the Tibetans will try their best to support HH’s wishes but that does not mean confusions won’t rise, giving opportunity to chaos and China will be hovering around like a hungry Hyena. As someone mentioned, it took 15yrs of war the last time something similar happened. After the 6th Dalai Lama’s passing. So what really is the best option?
Emphasis: when I say STRANGER, I’m not devaluing any of the potential emanation or worse non spiritual emanation. But, when it comes to filling HH’s shoes, those shoes are several centuries OLD!
Perhaps this is also some food for thought. If it took them 15-20 years to accept the 5th Dalai Lama, it would take them quite sometime to adjust to a lay kalon tripa.
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That's right! Here are more interesting things that Tibetans themselves are saying about lobsang sangay.'
Im also an angry Tibetan and a disappointed one here is why:
Journalists, thinkers, leaders, the Chinese and the conscious Tibetans including myself are laughing at the most stupid and silly response Lobsang Sangye has given. I have nothing against this man, except after watching a few of his interviews he is a man made of stories, but with little substance. He fails to strike hard for Tibetans on the political world stage.
I think he thinks he still running for Kalon Tripa as he never fails to remind the media and the world of his 16 years of Harvard. Who cares Lobsang Sangye??! What were you doing for 16 years anyway? After 16 yrs i would have hoped you could have delivered the most basic media soundbite the one which no Tibetan fails to answer.
As soon as the words rolled off your tongue, Tibetans haven’t had a country, alarm bells should have been ringing in your head. Not that their is no air to breath, what the hell was that??
What a disappointment, yet again. But it is not his fault, people do make mistakes, but there have been a few now. The man needs more experience, he needs a few more years at Harvard.
Stop fucking up LS and drop your ego. There are many Tibetans who have gone to top universities who didnt need to spend 16 years there and have achieved better results than you. So stop talking about about yourself and more on the Tibet crisis. DUHHHHHHH!!
[url]http://www.stol.it/Artikel/Politik-im-Ueberblick/Politik/Der-Dalai-Lama-wird-die-Stiegen-zum-Potala-Palast-hinaufsteigen-Video[/url] ([url]http://www.stol.it/Artikel/Politik-im-Ueberblick/Politik/Der-Dalai-Lama-wird-die-Stiegen-zum-Potala-Palast-hinaufsteigen-Video[/url])
but isnt that what the CTA does all the time? No substance and just talk?
We can forget about this clown lifting the ban, he's not man enough to do something important like that.
He has a point... and the point is that Lobsang Sangye doesnt have basis to speak. He has no army, no international backing (except for 6 million people around the world protesting but thats a drop compared to the 6 billion world population). He has no governments recognising his (even Taiwan is doing better than him). He has no economic power which lets face it, compared to the power of morality these days, counts for much more.
To me, he comes across as every other normal Tibetan - out to use whatever little power they have to further their own station in life. Trust me when the Dalai Lama passes away, you watch the rush for American visas and tickets to Switzerland.
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He has a point... and the point is that Lobsang Sangye doesnt have basis to speak. He has no army, no international backing (except for 6 million people around the world protesting but thats a drop compared to the 6 billion world population). He has no governments recognising his (even Taiwan is doing better than him). He has no economic power which lets face it, compared to the power of morality these days, counts for much more.
To me, he comes across as every other normal Tibetan - out to use whatever little power they have to further their own station in life. Trust me when the Dalai Lama passes away, you watch the rush for American visas and tickets to Switzerland.
The reason why is because Lobsang Sanggay does not do anything to build his credibility. It would be nice for him to for example, reform the school system or dissolve the Tibetan Youth Congress and allow alternative parties to form, including a communist tibetan government because without competition, a government cannot improve or move ahead. They need competition and alternative views.
He can do this very effectively by declaring it illegal for tibetans to discriminate against Dorje Shugden practitioners and make life hard for them. That would really make waves in the Tibetan community and give him something for people to respect. Or maybe even something extremely simple and small like revamp the sewerage system. Improve women's rights. things like that.
HHDL has set up a perfect stage for him to walk in and just pull the strings and fill in the roles for the government to function with the ban but he is not doing anything about it. The ban is acceptable for spiritual reasons, but to act on a secular level based on the ban is absolutely stupid, backward and a blatant transgression of human rights that the CTA need stos top if it wants to grow, unless of course it wants to be downsized even further.
But in general, i dont think there is hope for lobsang sanggay. He will be forced out of the office due to his incompetency and he will let HHDL down. At this rate, he will only hide behind HHDL and cause lots of confusion between the people and say things that will only decrease his credibility. That all will change when he lifts the ban and declares it harmful to Tibet with respect to HHDL....oh well that will never happen..
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Since Lobsang Sangey took office as Kalon Tripa, there are high hopes from all Tibetans that he is there to make changes and changes for the better for all Tibetans. Time is running out, Mr. Sangey. Nothing much has been done by you and your office in changing the lives of Tibetans.
There was a glimmer of hope when the articles about Dorje Shugden was removed from the CTA website and people rejoices. However, after three weeks, the articles are up again. What is this U-turn policies? Is it that you face pressure from certain quarters to perform your duties to the people?
Whatever it may be, please do something fast and radical so as to install back the confidence of the people on you. You cannot be just a pretty face or a puppet. Stand on your ground and make those decision where your people will feel that justice is served and that harmony is maintained in the community. As of not, it is just mere talk and no action. Hope and time is really running out. You do not want to see yourself out of office without making a mark in history besides being the first elected Prime Minister.
Time to serve the people and not your masters.
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I was very hopeful when Dr Lobsang Sangay was voted in as Prime Minister. I was particularly keen to see if his training in justice and rights would translate into some action, even a small step in the right direction for the removal of the DS ban.
Since then, I have searched constantly for news about him, especially what his plans and activities regarding: (i) removal of the DS ban; (ii) welfare of Tibetans living in exile; (iii) engagement of talks with the Chinese.
Sadly, there is very little fresh news about any and all of the points mentioned above. It is true that the Kalon Tripa is still behaving as a candidate rather than the Prime Minister. As someone who professed to understand the power of Social Media, he has not even updated the CTA website.
I would very much like to at the very least hear the Kalon Tripa's opinion of the ban. There is an opportunity for Dr Lobsang Sangay to rise up as an inspiring and revolutionary leader in the same vein as Aung San Suu Kyi and Mandela who have faced similar situations. Sadly he has not.
I can only conclude that either Dr Lobsang is totally out of his depth; or he is merely a puppet.
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If a measure of one's success are the results one has achieve, I am inclined to say Prime Minister Lobsang Sangay has failed! One month into office, its forgivable, 3 months into office forgivable, 6 months into office forgivable... but more than 13 months??? Surely some policies to help alleviate the sufferings of the people or steps made in the right direction even... But NOTHING!
So far, another stalemate... if it is from pure inefficiency, or whether he is out of his depth or he just was never in it to make any radical change, does not matter as it is as good as not having him around.
However, we all know everything is impermanent and we can instigate change if we want to.... so my plea to the Prime Minister is, for change to happen it is never to late... it is whether we want to or not!
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Tibetans is exile's future doesn't look to bright if their Prime Minister continues this way and not take charge!
It will only confirm all the comments made about him being a mere puppet... unfortunately. I had quite high hopes in the beginning when he was elected and thought perhaps being educated in Havard, he would have a wider perspective and would make a difference in the "new" democracy Tibetan govt in exile.
In any democratic society, there is religious freedom! For religion has never been part of politics. And of course with the Ban being lifted, it will drive home unity and harmony which will then stabilise what little there's left of the Tibetan community in exile and then perhaps they could help their people in China. But with such news and basically not much news.... their future looks pretty bleak.
Prime Minister Lobsang Sangay... please stand up, show up and wake up for your people! Much time has gone to waste.
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So sad. For so long the Tibetans made a stand in the world for their beautiful culture and spiritual practice because of "keep wanting to be right" government, it all boils down to nothing! After the election of Lobsang Sangay, I personally thought things will become more civilized and improved (take a look, all the great lamas have all fled to other parts of the world!) But sadly no, seeing this thread makes my hope gone down again.
The qualifications sound all nice and supreme but I guess many have not realize that not all Tibetans are rural provincial thinking. They have internet too! The power of social media and internet allow the Tibetans to reach out to the world, I guess it is time to realise that the people are not stupid. Like I say in most of my post, they will find out the truth. Times are gone with the Tibetan farmers and yaks, now how many Tibetans are studying aboard, if Lobsang Sangay can acquire that qualification I dont see why the other Tibetans can't.
Tibetans are very hard working individual. So it is time to listen to your people! Hear them say! Stop focusing on unnecessary issues that can not be reversed and rewind. Tibetan has lost their country. I still believe that the CTA really should look into the future now because they represent the people of Tibet.
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The funny thing is the efforts that CTA puts into banning Dorje Shugden and ratting out citizens who practice Dorje Shugden and the ostracizing them can be put to use to making Dharamsala a better place, like for example making sure that there is a proper sewerage system. Or something even smaller and more effective: lifting the ban and making it illegal to ostracizing the practitioners.
However, it seems to me that everyone is too busy trying their best to polish HHDL's boots than to actually do their duties. How does that even work or give them merit, I dont know but what I do know is that it wont help CTA in the long run, nor will it get things done and improve things. Other than what HHDL has instituted, nothing else has been done to make Dharamsala a better place or to progress in their talks with China.
Why would HHDL remain if nobody wants to take the initiative to lift his burden and just depend on him? Isnt that like pushing him away even more? So why do we want HHDL to return again? So that we can push him all our problems and shit and then request His Holiness to come back and solve them while we enjoy our own comforts and try to get as much as possible on his good side? Will it really work?
At this current rate, I dont think the CTA can survive or grow unless this attitude stops and they actually take control of their own government and lives and do something rather than just sucking up to the HHDL. HHDL is an enlightened being, not an ordinary being that will fall sway easily with praises. If they're doing all these just to get "merits", its more like demerits because for HHDL alone they cause many more others to suffer.
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During a recent interview with South Tyrol Online journal during March this year, his reply to an interview question about what it is like being a Prime Minister WITHOUT a country stirred up many angry and confused Tibetans.
Lobsang Sangay answered clearly and deliberately ” Well … I can’t say for sure because, Tibetans, we never had a country.”
The Tibetans who were born before and after exile were having debates on what he meant by that saying that he could possibly mean that Tibetans who were born after exile did not have a country. Regardless what, I find his statement a cover up the fact or perhaps embarassment that he is indeed a Prime Minister without a country.
So why do Tibetans need a Prime Minister then? Is it another I am from Harvard Prime Minister of Tibetan in Exile feel good factor? What do you guys think?
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For Lobsang Sangey to say that "..Tibetans ..never had a country" is to discount the fact that Tibet and Tibetans had been ruled over spiritually and politically by the Dalai Lamas until the Chinese invasion.
It would also appear that Mr Sangey is also seeking a flimsy justification for his still not having been an effective Kalon Tripa since he officially took office a year ago.It's a crying shame that he's still 'hiding under the skirts' of the Dalai Lama so to speak. Can't he muster up some courage and do even a fraction of what the most courageous leaders under greater duress have done, leaders like Aung San Su Kyi? Can't he at least begin to address the issue of the ban to redress the unfair and unreasonable ostracism of many Tibetans(including high Lamas and monks) over the worship of an Enlightened Protector, Dorje Shugden?
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It is obvious that the tibetans have grown weak over the many years that HHDL has somewhat spoiled them. They dont seem to have the strength or will to actually rule a country anymore. All they can do is wait for HHDL to give instructions. But HHDL has made it very clear of late that he does not wish to return by saying that he might possibly die from several methods.
The tibetans never really had a country because they never took the responsibility of ever running one. They just dumped that responsibility to the Dalai Lama without much consideration in more ways than one. They never took the initiative to at least try some secular ways to improve before consulting HHDL. They just opened their mouths and asked for instructions.
I'd imagine that after many years of this, it would be very tiring for HHDL to continue to spoonfeed them in this way, especially when there is not much improvement after so many years of doing the same thing repeatedly. The only way for them to grow up, so to speak, is to slowly distance themselves away from some of HHDL's policies such as the Dorje Shugden ban who does not make much sense to begin with.
So at the end of the day, HHDL has to step down to prevent himself from being used and leaned on so that the CTA can actually grow some sense and do what is right. Perhaps lifting the ban would be one of the best starting points for them to actually be a real government with real separation of church and state. doing so will finally get China's attention and respect and maybe they will finally listen.
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So stop talking about about yourself and more on the Tibet crisis. DUHHHHHHH!!
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I totally agree with this Tibetan. All credentials mean nothing if they are not put into action. I'm sure it is very frustrating for Tibetans when their leaders are full of air. They suffer because of their incompetent leaders who may perhaps have personal agendas. So instead of focusing on the welfare of their people, they focus on benefiting themselves. This is prevalent in all countries when corruption is not stopped. Corruption is a parasite to all social systems. That's one of the main reasons why Tibetans lost their country.
If Lobsang Sangey and CTA do not get their act together, CTA will be phased out in a generation or 2. Results speak louder than words.
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For Lobsang Sangey to say that "..Tibetans ..never had a country" is to discount the fact that Tibet and Tibetans had been ruled over spiritually and politically by the Dalai Lamas until the Chinese invasion.
To give the benefit of a doubt, I having given that same thought that it was meant to be in that context of spirituality. Holding on to the Buddhist teachings, one does not own anything nor be attached to their homeland. However, as a political leader, one has got to be highly skilful in the ears and eyes of the public media to appease his people instead of causing rage and disappointment amongst the many Tibetans who are strongly praying and fighting for their freedom and country. Imagine when you are strongly for a cause, the leader of your cause changes the route. Unless of course Lobsang Sangye is teaching the Tibetans impermanence and letting go of their attachments.
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For Lobsang Sangey to say that "..Tibetans ..never had a country" is to discount the fact that Tibet and Tibetans had been ruled over spiritually and politically by the Dalai Lamas until the Chinese invasion.
To give the benefit of a doubt, I having given that same thought that it was meant to be in that context of spirituality. Holding on to the Buddhist teachings, one does not own anything nor be attached to their homeland. However, as a political leader, one has got to be highly skilful in the ears and eyes of the public media to appease his people instead of causing rage and disappointment amongst the many Tibetans who are strongly praying and fighting for their freedom and country. Imagine when you are strongly for a cause, the leader of your cause changes the route. Unless of course Lobsang Sangye is teaching the Tibetans impermanence and letting go of their attachments.
There is still a fine line of sorts that needs to be defined here. First of all, even though the tibetans are very spiritual, they are still very much attached to their cultural identity and homeland which they lost to the chinese and many people are still struggling with the fact that they lack a place that they can call their country of origin.It is understandable in a way as people are insecure to start with.
Then, aside from the Dalai Lama, the Tibetans never really had any secular leader for hundreds of years. The sudden shift of having a leader that is not spiritual would not be easy to accept overnight and it will take time for the Tibetans to adapt to the fact that they are no longer under the care of the Dalai Lama on the secular level and that they are actually responsible for their own secular happiness.
Lobsang Sanggay is a very weak leader, from all of his actions to date. He does want to lift the ban as when he took office the pages on Dorje Shugden was taken down. Then they were up again. Then, he changed his statement to be the same as HHDL's on the self immolation issue and that, was not exactly a very good move as it just shows he is a very weak leader that still needs to depend on HHDL.
As much as I want to be kind and give him more time to prove himself, time is really running out and in other countries, leaders who make mistakes are not given chances, they are forced to step down once the people see them as incompetent. In the case of CTA, Lobsang Sanggay is overshadowed by HHDL and/or the other CTA decisions and he has not make any of his own. This is a very sad sight to behold.
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Unfortunately I have to agree with Ensapa that Lobsang Sangay is a weak leader, but again, everyone will be overshadowed by His Holiness - his charisma, his presence and his confidence. Yes, Lobsang Sangay may be from Harvard, he is a very educated man, but we haven't seen much that impresses so far.
At the recent solidarity rally, Lobsang Sangay said, “Our time will come, it is close. Democracy is universal,” referring to the Arab Spring uprisings that toppled veteran dictators in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia as well as Myanmar pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi who was released from seven straight years of house arrest in November 2010 and has now been issued with a passport, enabling her to travel abroad for the first time in 24 years.
Democracy is an egalitarian form of government in which all the citizens of a nation together determine public policy, the laws and the actions of their state, requiring that all citizens (meeting certain qualifications) have an equal opportunity to express their opinion.
Yet, why is such a separatist policy like the ban on Dorje Shugden practise is passed through without much debate? It is NOT a religious issue, religious issue doesn't involve stopping people from attending school and being discriminated and treated like second class citizens. Also, Dorje Shugden is a major practise of thousands of monks and many Tibetans who are from the Ba-Li-Gyal area, were they given any say in this matter?
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During a recent interview with South Tyrol Online journal during March this year, his reply to an interview question about what it is like being a Prime Minister WITHOUT a country stirred up many angry and confused Tibetans.
Lobsang Sangay answered clearly and deliberately ” Well … I can’t say for sure because, Tibetans, we never had a country.”
The Tibetans who were born before and after exile were having debates on what he meant by that saying that he could possibly mean that Tibetans who were born after exile did not have a country. Regardless what, I find his statement a cover up the fact or perhaps embarassment that he is indeed a Prime Minister without a country.
So why do Tibetans need a Prime Minister then? Is it another I am from Harvard Prime Minister of Tibetan in Exile feel good factor? What do you guys think?
I think LS is not proud to be a Tibetan. I also think that the CTA could have dangled a huge carrot for him to take the bait to be the PM. Why would a man who studied and lived abroad would want to go the mountains of Dharamsala and be the PM to Tibetans whom he said have no country?
If I am still living in Tibet, I do not care of the PM or the CTA because they are holed up in the mountains and are not doing anything good for me and my fellow Tibetans living here. In fact, living conditions here have improved tremendously. And since they are there and I am here, I do not listen to them but continue to do my practice and make offerings to my protector, Lord Shugden. For only you, Lord Shugden, can help me when I am dying, not the PM or the CTA.
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In every way, I think that lobsang sanggay is a failure. A complete failure as the president of CTA as he has not implemented any reforms nor has he done anything for the betterment of the CTA or Dharamsala. Its been too long, one year plus is way too long for anyone to be doing anything for any president. In a normal country the president would have an enquiry by now.
What was most disappointing was his comments on the self immolations, because he was indirectly encouraging more self immolations to happen in Tibet by indirectly saying that what they did is right "we will pray for our brothers and sisters who immolate themselves" instead of speaking out against and actually discouraging the whole self immolation thing.
And I do agree that lobsang sanggay is not proud to be tibetan, if he was he would have said many things about tibetan culture and draw many inspirations from its history, but sadly much of Tibet's secular history is often distorted and warped to some degree. He clearly is aware of that and he is ashamed to be a Tibetan national although he could really follow the 13th Dalai Lama's example.
Perhaps, lobsang sanggay can lift the ban or at least, defend the practitioners of Dorje Shugden from discrimination because he cannot even defend or improve dharmasala or CTA in any way. there are no reforms or improvements so far in CTA or Dharamsala ever since he took over. Perhaps he is just a seat warmer for the next president to step in.
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You know something. I think Lobsang Sangye is staying on the safe side without doing anything radical. He is making all the expected speeches and nothing more. He is not making his presence known and I have a theory about this one. I think he thinks he should not rock the boat to much as he is the first and he is still working under the shadow of the Dalai Lama.
He doesn't seem to be a radical and he doesn't know how to consolidate his power. His childish attempts at reminding people that he is Harvard graduate goes to show that he is not capable of creating any change and that he is relying on the Harvard name. I guess even at Harvard, they don't even make every student to be a leader.
I am not sure what would happen next but the very fact that he is just playing it safe now shows that nothing much will come out of this one. That is really another blow to the Dorje Shugden movement and I think the Tibetans can really kiss the Tibetan Independent movement good bye.
I am not sure what is going to happen but I think a lot would unfold once His Holiness leaves us. All the stability that is being experienced by the Central Tibetan Administration is due to the kindness of His Holiness. Therefore, once, he leaves, the CTA is in for a lot of internal and external turmoil. That's just what I think would happen.
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Unfortunately I have to agree with Ensapa that Lobsang Sangay is a weak leader, but again, everyone will be overshadowed by His Holiness - his charisma, his presence and his confidence. Yes, Lobsang Sangay may be from Harvard, he is a very educated man, but we haven't seen much that impresses so far.
At the recent solidarity rally, Lobsang Sangay said, “Our time will come, it is close. Democracy is universal,” referring to the Arab Spring uprisings that toppled veteran dictators in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia as well as Myanmar pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi who was released from seven straight years of house arrest in November 2010 and has now been issued with a passport, enabling her to travel abroad for the first time in 24 years.
Democracy is an egalitarian form of government in which all the citizens of a nation together determine public policy, the laws and the actions of their state, requiring that all citizens (meeting certain qualifications) have an equal opportunity to express their opinion.
Yet, why is such a separatist policy like the ban on Dorje Shugden practise is passed through without much debate? It is NOT a religious issue, religious issue doesn't involve stopping people from attending school and being discriminated and treated like second class citizens. Also, Dorje Shugden is a major practise of thousands of monks and many Tibetans who are from the Ba-Li-Gyal area, were they given any say in this matter?
Its all nice and well shouting out “Our time will come, it is close. Democracy is universal,” but if Dr Lobsang Sangay does not get off his 'behind' and do something about it - spearhead reforms, issue referendums or just merely try to help the people on ground. The true Tibetans.... the "people".
A few months in office and nothing is done is forgivable... but after more than a year into office its looking more and more like a weakness and to be honest rather IRRESPONSIBLE!
Love needs to be given to those who deserve it... I am beginning to think Dr Lobsang Sangay perhaps does not deserve it. With all that education and 'smarts' he prefers to remain in his comfort zone. Tibetans can only truly be democratic or have some semblance of democracy is when THE leader stands up and shows by example. Look at Aung San Suu Kyi... she NEVER gave up... and she never will... Such is the essence of a great leader.
Please Dr Lobsang Sangay, do not just utter slogans of encouragement and morale boosting... we need more action. More tangible results for the people! Education, infrastructure, freedom of expression in every aspect to name a few...
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At the recent solidarity rally, Lobsang Sangay said, “Our time will come, it is close. Democracy is universal,” referring to the Arab Spring uprisings that toppled veteran dictators in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia as well as Myanmar pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi who was released from seven straight years of house arrest in November 2010 and has now been issued with a passport, enabling her to travel abroad for the first time in 24 years.
Democracy is an egalitarian form of government in which all the citizens of a nation together determine public policy, the laws and the actions of their state, requiring that all citizens (meeting certain qualifications) have an equal opportunity to express their opinion.
Yet, why is such a separatist policy like the ban on Dorje Shugden practise is passed through without much debate? It is NOT a religious issue, religious issue doesn't involve stopping people from attending school and being discriminated and treated like second class citizens. Also, Dorje Shugden is a major practise of thousands of monks and many Tibetans who are from the Ba-Li-Gyal area, were they given any say in this matter?
Oh dear Mr. LS is proving to us more and more that he is CTAs puppet more then a Prime Minister... of yes unfortunately a nation with no country. I am sorry and do not mean to say it like a put down and honestly I really do feel sorry for him. I cannot believe the presure and stress he must be going through. But if he is to hold the fort of a Prime Minister then He must speak up for all Tibetans! And when I say all Tibetans it means all no matter what religion they practice :)
HHDL is going around introducing MR. LS to the world now as he tour and I would presume it is to start preparing the world to recognize Mr. Lobsang as Tibet's PM and in hopes that the world Leaders and media
would take him seriously after His Holiness passes perhaps? But do we really think that Mr. Lobsang's voice will be heard after HHDL passes of will is slowly drowned down because the impact he is creating now is basically nothing... so what will be the results later???
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You know something. I think Lobsang Sangye is staying on the safe side without doing anything radical. He is making all the expected speeches and nothing more. He is not making his presence known and I have a theory about this one. I think he thinks he should not rock the boat to much as he is the first and he is still working under the shadow of the Dalai Lama.
I don't think Lobsang Sangay is staying on the safe side. There has been much criticism about his travelling schedule and 'not being around' (sounds familiar?) but he's still going ahead with his schedule. Well, may be this is part of his PR campaign to meet as many leaders as possible. After all, that's following the footsteps of His Holiness, no? He is flying off to Australia in a few days' time.
Despite criticism, I will keep travelling, says Katri before leaving for Australia
Phayul [Monday, June 18, 2012 22:57]
By Tendar Tsering
Kalon Tripa Dr Lobsang Sangay (Phayul file photo)DHARAMSHALA, June 18: Kalon Tripa Dr Lobsang Sangay will be leaving for New Delhi tomorrow for an onward journey to Australia, his first after assuming office in August last, according to the official website of the Central Tibetan Administration.
The website said that Dr Sangay is scheduled to meet “some important officials” in the Indian capital without giving names, before flying off to the island continent on June 23.
Last week, addressing the 8th annual conference of the Tibetan settlement officers, Dr Sangay had said that he will continue to travel despite criticisms from certain sections of the society.
In less than one year as the elected leader of the Tibetan people, Dr Sangay has visited North America and Europe on three separate occasions and Japan once. During his visits, he has met with elected leaders and the Tibetan public, apprising them on the prevalent critical situation inside Tibet.
He also toured many of the Tibetan settlements in north and east India.
“I am aware of criticisms of my busy travel schedule from certain sections of the society,” Kalon Tripa said. “But I will continue to travel. To meet people and seek their help and support for the plight of our brothers and sisters inside Tibet and also to find help for those of us in exile.”
The CTA report said that Dr Sangay will be meeting members of the Australian parliament and the media during his June 23 – July 2 visit.
“During his visits to Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney and Brisbane, Kalon Tripa will meet Members of Parliament, members of think-tank, sponsors, and the media. He will also speak to the Tibetan community based in different parts of the country in Brisbane on 1 July,” CTA said.
Dr Sangay will return to Dharamshala on July 2.
From Phayul news:http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=31604&article=Despite+criticism%2c+I+will+keep+travelling%2c+says+Katri+before+leaving+for+Australia&t=1&c=1
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You know something. I think Lobsang Sangye is staying on the safe side without doing anything radical. He is making all the expected speeches and nothing more. He is not making his presence known and I have a theory about this one. I think he thinks he should not rock the boat to much as he is the first and he is still working under the shadow of the Dalai Lama.
I don't think Lobsang Sangay is staying on the safe side. There has been much criticism about his travelling schedule and 'not being around' (sounds familiar?) but he's still going ahead with his schedule. Well, may be this is part of his PR campaign to meet as many leaders as possible. After all, that's following the footsteps of His Holiness, no? He is flying off to Australia in a few days' time.
Despite criticism, I will keep travelling, says Katri before leaving for Australia
Phayul [Monday, June 18, 2012 22:57]
By Tendar Tsering
Kalon Tripa Dr Lobsang Sangay (Phayul file photo)DHARAMSHALA, June 18: Kalon Tripa Dr Lobsang Sangay will be leaving for New Delhi tomorrow for an onward journey to Australia, his first after assuming office in August last, according to the official website of the Central Tibetan Administration.
The website said that Dr Sangay is scheduled to meet “some important officials” in the Indian capital without giving names, before flying off to the island continent on June 23.
Last week, addressing the 8th annual conference of the Tibetan settlement officers, Dr Sangay had said that he will continue to travel despite criticisms from certain sections of the society.
In less than one year as the elected leader of the Tibetan people, Dr Sangay has visited North America and Europe on three separate occasions and Japan once. During his visits, he has met with elected leaders and the Tibetan public, apprising them on the prevalent critical situation inside Tibet.
He also toured many of the Tibetan settlements in north and east India.
“I am aware of criticisms of my busy travel schedule from certain sections of the society,” Kalon Tripa said. “But I will continue to travel. To meet people and seek their help and support for the plight of our brothers and sisters inside Tibet and also to find help for those of us in exile.”
The CTA report said that Dr Sangay will be meeting members of the Australian parliament and the media during his June 23 – July 2 visit.
“During his visits to Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney and Brisbane, Kalon Tripa will meet Members of Parliament, members of think-tank, sponsors, and the media. He will also speak to the Tibetan community based in different parts of the country in Brisbane on 1 July,” CTA said.
Dr Sangay will return to Dharamshala on July 2.
From Phayul news:http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=31604&article=Despite+criticism%2c+I+will+keep+travelling%2c+says+Katri+before+leaving+for+Australia&t=1&c=1
What is the point of all the travelling and meeting leaders of other nations when nothing comes out of it? If there is no fruition from one's action, perhaps one needs to look at other avenues? Perhaps stop spending the much needed money and put it towards reforms and the betterment of the Tibetan people.
Surely this would garner more support and acknowledgement from within as well as outside support. After all, HHDL has paved the way in terms of highlighting or bringing the plight of the Tibetans to the forefront, surely there is no need for more of cheer leading tactics. With respect dear Kalon Tripa, leave the pom poms and concentrate on your people who are in need of leadership from within.
Perhaps start by addressing the disparity and human rights abuses the Dorje Shugden ban is creating. Earn the respect of a person and not just from a title. Lift the ban or at least put measures towards that goal!
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Unfortunately I have to agree with Ensapa that Lobsang Sangay is a weak leader, but again, everyone will be overshadowed by His Holiness - his charisma, his presence and his confidence. Yes, Lobsang Sangay may be from Harvard, he is a very educated man, but we haven't seen much that impresses so far.
At the recent solidarity rally, Lobsang Sangay said, “Our time will come, it is close. Democracy is universal,” referring to the Arab Spring uprisings that toppled veteran dictators in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia as well as Myanmar pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi who was released from seven straight years of house arrest in November 2010 and has now been issued with a passport, enabling her to travel abroad for the first time in 24 years.
Democracy is an egalitarian form of government in which all the citizens of a nation together determine public policy, the laws and the actions of their state, requiring that all citizens (meeting certain qualifications) have an equal opportunity to express their opinion.
Yet, why is such a separatist policy like the ban on Dorje Shugden practise is passed through without much debate? It is NOT a religious issue, religious issue doesn't involve stopping people from attending school and being discriminated and treated like second class citizens. Also, Dorje Shugden is a major practise of thousands of monks and many Tibetans who are from the Ba-Li-Gyal area, were they given any say in this matter?
Oh my god that is one of the funniest things that I have ever read about the CTA aside from the ridiculous accusations against Dorje Shugden and China. Democracy? in CTA/Dharamsala? It is a well known fact that there is only ONE political party in the CTA: The Tibetan Youth Congress and you're either in or out and if you're out you get ostracized and threatened to support them. What democracy is LS talking about? the one in his head or the one that is actually just another lie to attract more innocent and unsuspecting people into the Tibetan cause? Has anyone heard of any election by the CTA? Maybe only in choosing the kalon tripa, but what about political parties? A democratic country must have at least another democratic party to contend and give the people a choice. None of that in CTA/Dharamsala.
Everyone is hoping that LS will change that, but in the end he is just a dud and a puppet that has no real power whatsoever or does anything useful at all to start with.
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Looks like the Australians like Lobsang Sangay. Well, they like him but there's also results-check. I do hope like what Lobsang Sangay said, with the change in new leadership, there might be some hope for a better future.
Dreams of a leader of a land he has never seen
Peter Hartcher
Sydney Morning Herald
26 June: Any political leader feeling unhappy with his, or her, lot might consider the situation of Lobsang Sangay. He is the Prime Minister of a government that doesn’t exist, representing a land he has never visited.
And it’s an understatement to say he has a hard act to follow. His predecessor is not only a Nobel laureate and one of the world’s most famous people, but also happens to be considered a demi-god by his people.
Sangay has taken over from the Dalai Lama the political leadership, though the 76-year-old monk has retained his position of spiritual leader.
Sangay became the first elected leader of the Tibetan exile administration, which has been based in the Indian city of Dharamsala since the Dalai Lama took refuge there from the Chinese takeover of Tibet in 1959.
Sangay won an election against two other candidates in April last year and took office in August. He’s young, 43 or 44; his father, a monk who was injured when he took up arms to fight the Chinese, and mother met in a refugee camp in Darjeeling and didn’t take exact note of his date of birth.
He’s a Harvard-educated lawyer who has lived in Boston for the past 16 years before moving to Dharamsala to take up his post as kalon tripa, or prime minister, of a regime that the Chinese call “an illegal criminal organisation”.
And though he has a subtle mind, movie-star looks, smooth delivery and near-native English, he cannot begin to compete with the charisma of the man he follows.
Not only that, he says he has taken over for the “hardest phase” of the Tibetan campaign for autonomy – but not full independence – from China: “If you study any movement, the beginning is swift and brutal,” he told the Herald yesterday. In Tibet’s case, it was the Chinese invasion. “And the end is swift and pleasurable – look at the result of the election in Egypt. But the middle phase is always the most difficult.”
The Dalai Lama, he says, has done “an amazing job – despite 50 years, our issue is still very much alive in the consciousness of the world.
“It’s my responsibility to carry the expectation forward – to maintain the spirit of the Tibetan people, to maintain the support of the international community, and to press the Chinese government to enter into dialogue.”
Is he succeeding in any of these three? There’s no real evidence so far. On the first score, the Tibetan people, it seems, have been reluctant to accept the Dalai Lama’s withdrawal from political advocacy. “Unwelcome but inevitable,” is how one senior exile leader put it.
And it is unclear how to interpret the acceleration of self-immolations that have taken place among Tibetans in China’s Tibetan Autonomous Region since Sangay’s election. He has issued repeated pleas for Tibetans to cease but they continue at a distressing pace. “Ninety per cent have coincided with my taking over the leadership,” he says.
He concedes that it is possibly a sign Tibetans feel greater hopelessness in their cause since the withdrawal of the Dalai Lama. Or that it could be an effort to apply greater pressure on him to take a harder stance against China, but he cautions that “it’s too early to tell”.
What we can be sure of, he says, is that “the situation is not bearable”.
On the second, while Sangay has received a perfectly hospitable reception in the dozen countries he has visited in his new capacity, official recognition is much tougher. “My reception has been pretty good given the frantic phone calls from Chinese embassies” trying to defeat his attempts for visas, recognition and even speaking opportunities.
He has been welcomed and feted by members of parliament everywhere he has visited – in the US, Japan, Canada, Britain and Europe, and he will address a group of Australian parliamentarians in Canberra this week.
But he has not been granted official meetings with any nation’s foreign minister or national leader yet, unlike his president-pulling predecessor. It seems that this will be his fate in Australia, too.
On the third count, there is no sign that the Chinese are interested in talking to him or the administration he leads. The Chinese have refused any negotiations since 2008. The two special envoys appointed by the Dalai Lama quit in frustration.
Sangay continues to advocate the “Middle Way” policy – neither independence from China nor full control by China but autonomy within China.
Beijing refuses to accept the Tibetans’ good faith, accusing them of being secret “splittists” seeking to break away altogether.
Sangay says this is not the right time to expect China to start talking: “They are quite busy with their internal matters, including the leadership change” due about October. He hopes the new leadership might bring a “new perspective”.
With the present configuration of forces, how can Sangay sustain the “middle phase”?
One challenge will be to hold the line on non-violence. Many of the younger Tibetan voices despair of the moderate tactics of the leadership of the government-in-exile.
Is it getting harder?
“Yes in some senses because as more time passes, and there’s no progress, it validates the pro-independence argument – ‘see we told you so’. But for us, the values of democracy and non-violence are not negotiable.”
And Sangay can claim two victories in the first nine months of his prime ministership. First, he says, the Tibetans have debunked the theory held by some Chinese that, after the Dalai Lama dies, the Tibetan movement will die with him: “We are standing on our own feet. We have demonstrated to the Chinese leadership that our movement will stay alive – that’s why I left my job at Harvard, America and Starbucks to work for Indian rupees, drink chai and live without central heating.”
Second, he is living proof that Tibet’s exiles can accomplish a democratically elected leadership. Of the 64,000 Tibetans eligible to vote, 49,000 did, and of those 27,000 voted for Sangay.
That may not be very many votes, but it’s many more than the President of China can boast.
From: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/dreams-of-a-leader-of-a-land-he-has-never-seen-20120625-20yh1.html (http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/dreams-of-a-leader-of-a-land-he-has-never-seen-20120625-20yh1.html)
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Latest from Lobsang Sangay about self-immolation and a variety of issues related to the cause of Tibet.
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'Tibetans have no option other than self-immolations'
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Prime Minister of the Tibetan government-in-exile Lobsang Sangay in exclusive conversation with The Sunday Indian
TSI: Almost 40 Tibetans including monks have attempted self-immolation since 2009. Why this sudden increase in such desperate acts of protest? Have they lost all hope for a free Tibet?
LS: [Brief silence] Yes, it has been really unfortunate. Question is why? The Chinese Government doesn’t allow any form of free speech like we see in India, here we can have dharnas, hunger strikes, and we can protest, and organise rallies. But in China, especially in Tibet, it is not so. You simply cannot participate in protests, even if it’s a gathering of three people, they get arrested and tortured. Tragically, Tibetans are taking to this rather drastic political act of self-immolation. But all the 40 self-immolators have only hurt themselves and not harmed others. Their demands are pretty clear – the return of His Holiness Dalai Lama and Free Tibet.
TSI: Tibetan activist Jamphel Yeshi also self-immolated himself hours before Hu Jintao’s arrival in March this year. Is self-immolation the only way of being heard?
LS: We have told people not to indulge in self-immolation. A few days after Jamphel Yeshi’s self-immolation we in fact issued a very strongly worded letter asking Tibetans-in-exile particularly not to resort to self-immolations because we have freedom of speech in India. We can resort to and engage in many other forms of protests. Unfortunately, Tibetans inside Tibet don’t have any other option, but to commit self-immolations.
TSI: Have the concerns over Dalai Lama’s security intensified of late? The Dalai Lama himself recently said that a Tibetan may attack him?
LS: Threat perception always remains. The report (about a Tibetan attacking Dalai Lama) is reliable but not verified. Reports are that China at one time was training people like that, so we have to take all this under consideration.
TSI: Your views on Indo-Tibetan relations?
LS: Tibet is of major interest for India from geo-political, environmental and cultural point-of-view. Culturally, because we follow Buddhism, which we adapted from India. Environmentally because Tibet’s Himalayan geography directly affects the region. And geo-politically because China is building a railway line all the way to India. The Indian government spends billions of dollars for border security. Before 1959, it was not necessary. Resolving the Tibet issue is in India’s interest.
TSI: Is there any ongoing back-channel dialogue with China or does a stalemate persist considering recent resignations of your two appointed emissaries?
LS: At the moment it is a stalemate, mainly because of the Chinese government. The relevant Chinese officials have not reciprocated positively to the memorandum that we submitted. That is why our two appointed envoys resigned. The environment is not conducive for dialogue. The situation inside Tibet is also getting worse. Having said that, we are ready to engage in dialogue with the Chinese government anytime. We seek autonomy within China and within the framework of the Chinese constitution. Most likely with the changes in leadership, by early next year there might be slight changes in the trend.
TSI: China has been showing off Gyaltsen Norbu, the government-appointed 11th Panchen Lama, to the world. Do you think the world has accepted him as Dalai Lama's successor?
LS: No, No I don’t think the world will accept him because he is not the boy endorsed by the Dalai Lama. He spends more time in Beijing than in Lhasa. He spends more time talking of politics than spirituality. He is being groomed and shown around by the Chinese government which will not be accepted by Tibetans. Why should they?
TSI: If not Gyaltsen Norbu, do you think period after Dalai Lama will mean chaos for Tibetans-in-exile and China will only emerge stronger?
LS: Dalai Lama will come back. But interim period, it was chaotic before. You know, there is always a gap in history. That is why His Holiness has issued a very strong statement last September – reincarnation, selection or emanation. If he comes back through reincarnation then till Dalai Lama is born and enthroned and mature, it will take 27 years. That is why, the Dalai Lama has said that if Buddhist leaders are willing there could be a selection process, some Buddhist leaders could gather and select the next leader. Or there is also the possibility of an emanation process, meaning the Dalai Lama could designate a boy (or a girl), and say he will be my successor. That will remove that interim period. Immediately after His Holiness passes away, we will have a young boy who will be the 15th Dalai Lama. Who better than Dalai Lama to choose, legitimize, give credibility, train and groom the next Dalai Lama?
TSI: What is your single-most-important task as the PM of Tibetan government-in-exile?
LS: Politically, restoring freedom for Tibetans and maintaining solidarity both within and outside Tibet are very important. Domestically, education will be the number one priority. I came from a humble background. Because of education I’ve managed to stand on my feet. Similarly, if we invest in education for everybody, then an educated and highly talented generation will be groomed to take forward the Tibetan cause.
TSI: But is the Dalai Lama refraining from being too outspoken about the situation in Tibet these days?
LS: His Holiness made it very clear last March that he wants to transfer all his political authority. There is a clear demarcation and I handle the political part of the Tibet issue and His Holiness is our most revered leader. Now he spends more time on his spiritual pursuits but as a Tibetan he often makes comments on the Tibet issue as well.
TSI: China is one of the world’s most formidable powers. Is there still hope for a free Tibet?
LS: We perceive China differently from the way other countries, including India, perceive China. We Tibetans have been living side by side with China for centuries. China may grow powerful, but the Tibetan spirit, Tibetan sense of commitment and determination will not change. We believe that we will achieve freedom one day. That is the determination of the younger generation of Tibetans to carry the cause forward. Not just me, so many other Tibetans are joining in and have been in the Tibetan cause for a long time with sincere belief, that our day will come. We will return to Tibet.
From: http://www.thesundayindian.com/en/story/tibetans-have-no-option-other-than-self-immolations/25/37237/ (http://www.thesundayindian.com/en/story/tibetans-have-no-option-other-than-self-immolations/25/37237/)
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Kalon Tripa is currently visiting Tibetan communities in Ladakh. I have attached a few pictures below, including one of Lobsang Sangay with the 102nd Gaden Tripa Rizong Rinpoche at Ladakh.
I heard that the 102nd Gaden Tripa, has been a Dorje Shugden practitioner, but now he follows the dictates of the ban on Shugden practice and he has not spoken out against Dorje Shugden nor against Shugden practitioners.
Also, I read on a thread here (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=67.msg4312#msg4312 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=67.msg4312#msg4312)) that when the Dalai lama wanted very much to publicly denounce Denma Locho Rinpoche during the inauguration of Loseling Prayer Hall because Denma Locho Rinpoche went to Serkong Tritul's Centre in Taiwan and received much monetary offerings, Gaden Tripa Rizong Rinpoche went to have audience with Dalai lama numerous times to beg the Dalai lama from doing so. After many repeated requests, Dalai lama desisted.
Looks like this Gaden Tripa is on 'our' side 8)
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Kalon Tripa is currently visiting Tibetan communities in Ladakh. I have attached a few pictures below, including one of Lobsang Sangay with the 102nd Gaden Tripa Rizong Rinpoche at Ladakh.
I heard that the 102nd Gaden Tripa, has been a Dorje Shugden practitioner, but now he follows the dictates of the ban on Shugden practice and he has not spoken out against Dorje Shugden nor against Shugden practitioners.
Also, I read on a thread here ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=67.msg4312#msg4312[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=67.msg4312#msg4312[/url])) that when the Dalai lama wanted very much to publicly denounce Denma Locho Rinpoche during the inauguration of Loseling Prayer Hall because Denma Locho Rinpoche went to Serkong Tritul's Centre in Taiwan and received much monetary offerings, Gaden Tripa Rizong Rinpoche went to have audience with Dalai lama numerous times to beg the Dalai lama from doing so. After many repeated requests, Dalai lama desisted.
Looks like this Gaden Tripa is on 'our' side 8)
Now this is interesting. When the Ganden Tripa was changed, there was much speculation that the Dalai Lama would replace him with a politically correct one but HHDL did not. Why? Because HHDL does not really see Dorje Shugden as evil, because if he did he would have put an abbot that was against Dorje Shugden as the Ganden Tripa even if he was not competent like what he did with Ganden Shartse's abbot. On this same page, lets not forget that Samdhong Rinpoche was chosen as the Dalai Lama's close assistant despite him being recognized as an emanation of Dorje Shugden. If HHDL really believe that Dorje Shugden was evil, why would he allow that even? Perhaps, in the case of Shartse, he has really seen his mistake and has decided to just allow a Dorje Shugden practitioner to be the Ganden Tripa because no non Dorje Shugden lamas are competent enough to hold that position. Sorry that it has to come to that, but the proof is in the pudding. So, the monks in Ganden swore that they would never do Dorje Shugden practice and discarded Dorje Shugden just to be on Dalai Lama's side, but at the end, what did they achieve now? I hear no high lamas from Ganden that are anti Dorje Shugden that are famous. none.
Such are the effects of breaking samaya. In order to look politically good, these practitioners throw away the teachings and samaya that they have received from their Gurus to be on the Dalai Lama's side at the cost of their own spiritual practice. So, what will happen to them now? It is very clear that none of them are competent enough to take over the role of the Ganden Tripa, which is why HHDL has to choose one that is a Dorje Shugden practitioner, but even then, he does not make any new or ridiculous rules with regards on the ban. He just keeps quiet and not initiate crusades or any extreme measures against Dorje Shugden practitioners but neither does he encourage them to show respect to the Dalai Lama and his ban.