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SAVE DORJE SHUGDEN
« on: February 11, 2008, 12:51:25 AM »

If you haven't read this article by "crouching tiger", then you should take a moment.  The point is not whether you agree or disagree, but to realize that this issue is REAL and we are becoming more divided as a society.  (Is this what we want?) 

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Recent events surrounding the Dalai Lama’s visit to South India have further shaken the very foundations of an entire school of Tibetan Buddhism and its discipline, thereby gradually exposing the Dalai Lama’s agenda and his integrity. On January 9th, 2008 he was invited to inaugurate a prayer hall for a large monastic community in South India. At this event he announced a “Referendum on the practice of Dolgyal,” and proposed a collection of votes on this matter.

Many of his followers believe that during this recent visit to South India a concerted effort was made by him to perpetuate his ban on the practice of ‘Dolgyal’ known to many as Dorje Shugden. Such efforts by the Dalai Lama unquestionably violate his own principals and aspirations for a democratic Tibet. It conflicts with the core values and ideals of any democracy whose constitution indicates that no government or person shall interfere with a person’s right to worship freely. The recent referendum in South India, the call for votes on the issue of the practice of a deity, and the deadline for gathering the votes (February 9, 2008) sets the stage for a perfect storm of division and discord within the monastic and lay communities. Must one’s fundamental right to worship freely come from a ballot box? Using this voting system as a guise, he and his administration have exercised and called for a ‘phony’ democratic process.

One must understand that in the Tibetan system, a democracy is whatever the Dalai Lama and his administration propose. Throughout Tibet’s history Tibetans have lived under monarchies and theocracies protecting them from the true nature and experience of a democratic society. Political and social change does not enter into the mental fabric of an average Tibetan. Power and authority is relegated to the Dalai Lama institution and his government with the utmost devotion for he is “God” and “all knowing.” This climate is extremely dangerous when thousands of simple minded people catapult one person and his government to make decisions for them. It is a system that reduces independent thinking Tibetans to a minority.  It is a scenario where one person’s power and influence are fed by the silence of one’s own people. Can freedom of religion occur without freedom of expression and choice? How does one exercise freedom of expression and choice in a society or community devoid of a “check and balance system” for those in power? A democracy cannot emerge, exist or function in a system where governments and leaders instruct their citizens. Splitting and dividing a people based on their spirituality is unbecoming of a leader who has become a symbol of world peace, harmony and tolerance. The “voting” on whether someone practices or not exacerbates polarity. A yellow stick for “no” to Dorje Shugden, a red stick for “yes” to Dorje Shugden. There is no stick for a  “neutral” stance on Dorje Shudgen. Has the Dalai Lama abandoned his acclaimed middle way approach to resolving conflicts? Can a semblance of a democracy coexist with a Dalai agenda and rule? Has any world  democracy or country called for votes and referendums on the issue of practice and worship? Is this hitherto an unprecedented event in history or ‘any’ democracy?  If so, it reeks of abuse of power, status and influence.  Freedom of thought and expression begins with questioning, scratching the surface and digging deeper.          
In the 1960's, the Dalai Lama decided in favor of progression for the Tibetans in exile and introduced the concept of democracy among his people. The Constitution drafted outline’s freedom of religion as a fundamental right of every Tibetan. It prohibits discrimination based on religion. The recent referendum in South India, the call for votes on the issue of the practice of the deity, and the deadline for gathering the votes (February 9, 2008) is against the constitution drafted by the Dalai Lama and his government. The right to worship and practice any religion is a fundamental right in any democracy. When the Dorje Shugden controversy emerged, followers of Dorje Shugden voiced foul play and demanded freedom of religion. The Dalai Lama and his administration adopted the position that Dorje Shugden was a ghost, a demon, a cult practice, and did not justify its inclusion in the realm of religion. This opens up debate as to what defines religion. Religion involves faith, practice and devotion. Does it matter what the object of veneration is? Politics is issue driven.  Religion and politics cannot mix.

It is immoral and unethical for anyone to politicize secular matters. No votes were collected or referendums proposed on the issue of Tibetan freedom. Yet, it behooves him as a world leader to dictate to a large monastic community, a proposal for a referendum and collection of votes regarding the ‘practice’ of a deity. Not too long ago a group of young Tibetans escaped from Tibet to become monks in South India and were denied admission because they refused to give up the practice of Dorje Shugden. When complaints of discrimination were made, the Dalai Lama’s administration shifted the blame on a monastic association stating that the association had developed a charter to disallow Shugden followers admission into monasteries. Do the Dalai Lama and his administration not have a moral and ethical responsibility to ensure  the right to worship freely? Or ensure that no person or group is violated of this right? How does a Nobel Peace Laureate venture so far from promoting peace and harmony in his own backyard? How simple is it for a Nobel Peace Laureate to create divisions and disharmony among his own people in the name of religion, to generalize a group as having  Chinese ties? 


The very nature of the agenda to use this collecting of votes to decide on the Shugden issue smells of manipulation, underhanded tactics and deception. For about 30 years or so the Dalai Lama and his administration have used tremendous amounts of resources and manpower to discredit Dorje Shugden. Great masters who in the past practiced Dorje Shugden and the Dalai Lama also went on to personally meet and talk with key Shugden followers warning them of consequences if they continued the practice. Now, after 30 years of negative propaganda is this vote valid? It is becoming more evident that this is nothing but a calculated and abusive attempt at the systematic destruction of a large school of monastic discipline. It is a ploy to discredit great past masters, their teachings, lineage and eliminate all who disagree with the Dalai Lama. 

The Dalai Lama maintains that Dorje Shugden is harmful for the Tibetan cause. Yet not one incident has been cited where this claim has been validated. The very fact that he has made Dorje Shugden an issue is what divides the Tibetan people. It gives leverage to the Chinese to further split the Tibetan people, and for others to side with the Chinese. On the one hand Dorje Shugden was key in ensuring the safety of the Dalai Lama during his escape from Tibet, and many Shugden followers gave years of service to the Tibetan people in the initial difficult periods of settlement into exiled life. On the other hand, it is becoming increasingly clear that the making of Dorje Shugden an issue truly harms the Tibetan cause.

This has caused unprecedented turmoil and suffering in the social, psychological and emotional fabric of Tibetan society. Those who once lived with each other in harmony and trust now live in paranoia and mistrust. Children attending schools begin to label and ostracize each other creating situations for being bullied or bullying, verbal threats, arguments and eventually violence. Long time practitioners are told that their practice in this deity is wrong and that their root gurus have led them on a wrong path, thereby shaking the very foundations of their faith. Teachers and students have severed their sacred bonds, and families are being split. In general an environment of doubt and fear has been created and perpetuated. This is not the doing of Dorje Shugden but the relentless efforts of the Dalai Lama and his administration in continuing to ban the practice of Dorje Shugden.

One may ask, why are then so many high Lamas supporting the Dalai Lama? When one is a Lama or a monk, one’s  life becomes very dependent on the monastery, one’s guru and the greater community. The Tibetan system makes things even more challenging. The questioning of the Dalai Lama’s word or actions does not exist. The  questioning of his authority, his word and instruction become unthinkable. Tibetans have lived with the notion of doing what the Dalai Lama wishes for hundreds of years. To go against that would be no less than ensuring a one way ticket to the deepest hell. Many followers are faithful to him because he is believed to embody compassion. He has become an ethical and moral authority to the larger world community and is a world leader.  In many ways Tibetans and others around the world follow him unwaveringly like the mantras they recite regularly, without knowing it’s true meaning or contemplating on it. Both the Dalai Lama and his administration ride this wave, and perhaps use it as tools to further their agendas. These tactics betray people’s trust and faith.

The Dalai Lama is considered a moral and ethical authority figure in the world.  He maintains that love, peace and compassion first begins at home, with neighbors, in the community, the nation and then the world. The question is simple. Does this not obligate him to promote and preserve peace, justice and freedoms amongst his own first? Does it not become his responsibility to set a good example?

In short the votes collected on the Shugden issue is unjust and the actions taken in obtaining the votes are illegal, immoral and unethical. This is in direct contradiction with the principals of Buddhism, compassion and tolerance. Buddhists all over should be truly concerned. Please lend your voice in ensuring justice for this oppressed group of people. Please speak up against community disintegration and societal divisions. Please support the constitutional rights of this group of people. It has become the moral and ethical obligation of the oppressed and those against oppression to speak up against this injustice. The time has come to scrutinize his actions and his government’s policies. 


It is crucial that we examine and question the actions of our leader, a self proclaimed “simple Buddhist monk” when he violates core Buddhist beliefs and values. Many are perplexed with his unrelenting stance on the issue. The Dalai Lama has stated that Dorje Shugden practitioners should go back to Tibet where China patronizes this practice suggesting a mass exit. Is he an angry parent banishing his sons and daughters from home? There seems to exist no moral and ethical responsibility toward his own.

The Dalai Lama endorses universal responsibility yet appears to be a crucial component integral to igniting and refueling this conflict on the practice of a deity repeatedly. Let us take off our blinders and start taking notice. It is time to democratize and secularize the issue of practice and worship, not politicize it.



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Re: SAVE DORJE SHUGDEN
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 03:47:26 PM »
Refreshing this post for the benefit of others, may you gain some insights. Ive highlighted the bits which struck me...I just found the post extremely well-written, if a little offensive.

Savetibet has a point - what happened to His Holiness middle path? Did he abandon it when he abandoned the issue of a free Tibet, and instead began to seek autonomy instead? What will happen when he passes away? Will his words and his actions be twisted by factions within the Tibetan community (Im thinking of the Tibetan Youth Congress in particular), keen to find an excuse that will validate their wish to violently protest for a free Tibet?

Why do the CTA bring out the middle path argument when it befits them, and discard it when it does not serve its purpose? For example, why didnt the CTA insist that Tibetans should stop self-immolating? Is self-immolation in accordance with the middle path?

How was the swearing-in in any way a practice of the middle path? By choosing one side over another, isnt that going against the very nature of the middle path? All these questions and so much more to come...!


If you haven't read this article by "crouching tiger", then you should take a moment.  The point is not whether you agree or disagree, but to realize that this issue is REAL and we are becoming more divided as a society.  (Is this what we want?) 

Nobel Peace Laureate Shuns Moral and Ethical Responsibility
                         
See Video!  Visit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJXszKZz1gc

Recent events surrounding the Dalai Lama’s visit to South India have further shaken the very foundations of an entire school of Tibetan Buddhism and its discipline, thereby gradually exposing the Dalai Lama’s agenda and his integrity. On January 9th, 2008 he was invited to inaugurate a prayer hall for a large monastic community in South India. At this event he announced a “Referendum on the practice of Dolgyal,” and proposed a collection of votes on this matter.

Many of his followers believe that during this recent visit to South India a concerted effort was made by him to perpetuate his ban on the practice of ‘Dolgyal’ known to many as Dorje Shugden. Such efforts by the Dalai Lama unquestionably violate his own principals and aspirations for a democratic Tibet. It conflicts with the core values and ideals of any democracy whose constitution indicates that no government or person shall interfere with a person’s right to worship freely. The recent referendum in South India, the call for votes on the issue of the practice of a deity, and the deadline for gathering the votes (February 9, 2008) sets the stage for a perfect storm of division and discord within the monastic and lay communities. Must one’s fundamental right to worship freely come from a ballot box? Using this voting system as a guise, he and his administration have exercised and called for a ‘phony’ democratic process.

One must understand that in the Tibetan system, a democracy is whatever the Dalai Lama and his administration propose. Throughout Tibet’s history Tibetans have lived under monarchies and theocracies protecting them from the true nature and experience of a democratic society. Political and social change does not enter into the mental fabric of an average Tibetan. Power and authority is relegated to the Dalai Lama institution and his government with the utmost devotion for he is “God” and “all knowing.” This climate is extremely dangerous when thousands of simple minded people catapult one person and his government to make decisions for them. It is a system that reduces independent thinking Tibetans to a minority.  It is a scenario where one person’s power and influence are fed by the silence of one’s own people. Can freedom of religion occur without freedom of expression and choice? How does one exercise freedom of expression and choice in a society or community devoid of a “check and balance system” for those in power? A democracy cannot emerge, exist or function in a system where governments and leaders instruct their citizens. Splitting and dividing a people based on their spirituality is unbecoming of a leader who has become a symbol of world peace, harmony and tolerance. The “voting” on whether someone practices or not exacerbates polarity. A yellow stick for “no” to Dorje Shugden, a red stick for “yes” to Dorje Shugden. There is no stick for a  “neutral” stance on Dorje Shudgen. Has the Dalai Lama abandoned his acclaimed middle way approach to resolving conflicts? Can a semblance of a democracy coexist with a Dalai agenda and rule? Has any world  democracy or country called for votes and referendums on the issue of practice and worship? Is this hitherto an unprecedented event in history or ‘any’ democracy?  If so, it reeks of abuse of power, status and influence.  Freedom of thought and expression begins with questioning, scratching the surface and digging deeper.

In the 1960's, the Dalai Lama decided in favor of progression for the Tibetans in exile and introduced the concept of democracy among his people. The Constitution drafted outline’s freedom of religion as a fundamental right of every Tibetan. It prohibits discrimination based on religion. The recent referendum in South India, the call for votes on the issue of the practice of the deity, and the deadline for gathering the votes (February 9, 2008) is against the constitution drafted by the Dalai Lama and his government. The right to worship and practice any religion is a fundamental right in any democracy. When the Dorje Shugden controversy emerged, followers of Dorje Shugden voiced foul play and demanded freedom of religion. The Dalai Lama and his administration adopted the position that Dorje Shugden was a ghost, a demon, a cult practice, and did not justify its inclusion in the realm of religion. This opens up debate as to what defines religion. Religion involves faith, practice and devotion. Does it matter what the object of veneration is? Politics is issue driven.  Religion and politics cannot mix.

It is immoral and unethical for anyone to politicize secular matters. No votes were collected or referendums proposed on the issue of Tibetan freedom. Yet, it behooves him as a world leader to dictate to a large monastic community, a proposal for a referendum and collection of votes regarding the ‘practice’ of a deity. Not too long ago a group of young Tibetans escaped from Tibet to become monks in South India and were denied admission because they refused to give up the practice of Dorje Shugden. When complaints of discrimination were made, the Dalai Lama’s administration shifted the blame on a monastic association stating that the association had developed a charter to disallow Shugden followers admission into monasteries. Do the Dalai Lama and his administration not have a moral and ethical responsibility to ensure  the right to worship freely? Or ensure that no person or group is violated of this right? How does a Nobel Peace Laureate venture so far from promoting peace and harmony in his own backyard? How simple is it for a Nobel Peace Laureate to create divisions and disharmony among his own people in the name of religion, to generalize a group as having  Chinese ties? 

The very nature of the agenda to use this collecting of votes to decide on the Shugden issue smells of manipulation, underhanded tactics and deception. For about 30 years or so the Dalai Lama and his administration have used tremendous amounts of resources and manpower to discredit Dorje Shugden. Great masters who in the past practiced Dorje Shugden and the Dalai Lama also went on to personally meet and talk with key Shugden followers warning them of consequences if they continued the practice. Now, after 30 years of negative propaganda is this vote valid? It is becoming more evident that this is nothing but a calculated and abusive attempt at the systematic destruction of a large school of monastic discipline. It is a ploy to discredit great past masters, their teachings, lineage and eliminate all who disagree with the Dalai Lama. 

The Dalai Lama maintains that Dorje Shugden is harmful for the Tibetan cause. Yet not one incident has been cited where this claim has been validated. The very fact that he has made Dorje Shugden an issue is what divides the Tibetan people. It gives leverage to the Chinese to further split the Tibetan people, and for others to side with the Chinese. On the one hand Dorje Shugden was key in ensuring the safety of the Dalai Lama during his escape from Tibet, and many Shugden followers gave years of service to the Tibetan people in the initial difficult periods of settlement into exiled life. On the other hand, it is becoming increasingly clear that the making of Dorje Shugden an issue truly harms the Tibetan cause.

This has caused unprecedented turmoil and suffering in the social, psychological and emotional fabric of Tibetan society. Those who once lived with each other in harmony and trust now live in paranoia and mistrust. Children attending schools begin to label and ostracize each other creating situations for being bullied or bullying, verbal threats, arguments and eventually violence. Long time practitioners are told that their practice in this deity is wrong and that their root gurus have led them on a wrong path, thereby shaking the very foundations of their faith. Teachers and students have severed their sacred bonds, and families are being split. In general an environment of doubt and fear has been created and perpetuated. This is not the doing of Dorje Shugden but the relentless efforts of the Dalai Lama and his administration in continuing to ban the practice of Dorje Shugden.

One may ask, why are then so many high Lamas supporting the Dalai Lama? When one is a Lama or a monk, one’s  life becomes very dependent on the monastery, one’s guru and the greater community. The Tibetan system makes things even more challenging. The questioning of the Dalai Lama’s word or actions does not exist. The  questioning of his authority, his word and instruction become unthinkable. Tibetans have lived with the notion of doing what the Dalai Lama wishes for hundreds of years. To go against that would be no less than ensuring a one way ticket to the deepest hell. Many followers are faithful to him because he is believed to embody compassion. He has become an ethical and moral authority to the larger world community and is a world leader.  In many ways Tibetans and others around the world follow him unwaveringly like the mantras they recite regularly, without knowing it’s true meaning or contemplating on it. Both the Dalai Lama and his administration ride this wave, and perhaps use it as tools to further their agendas. These tactics betray people’s trust and faith.

The Dalai Lama is considered a moral and ethical authority figure in the world.  He maintains that love, peace and compassion first begins at home, with neighbors, in the community, the nation and then the world. The question is simple. Does this not obligate him to promote and preserve peace, justice and freedoms amongst his own first? Does it not become his responsibility to set a good example?

In short the votes collected on the Shugden issue is unjust and the actions taken in obtaining the votes are illegal, immoral and unethical. This is in direct contradiction with the principals of Buddhism, compassion and tolerance. Buddhists all over should be truly concerned. Please lend your voice in ensuring justice for this oppressed group of people. Please speak up against community disintegration and societal divisions. Please support the constitutional rights of this group of people. It has become the moral and ethical obligation of the oppressed and those against oppression to speak up against this injustice. The time has come to scrutinize his actions and his government’s policies. 

It is crucial that we examine and question the actions of our leader, a self proclaimed “simple Buddhist monk” when he violates core Buddhist beliefs and values. Many are perplexed with his unrelenting stance on the issue. The Dalai Lama has stated that Dorje Shugden practitioners should go back to Tibet where China patronizes this practice suggesting a mass exit. Is he an angry parent banishing his sons and daughters from home? There seems to exist no moral and ethical responsibility toward his own.

The Dalai Lama endorses universal responsibility yet appears to be a crucial component integral to igniting and refueling this conflict on the practice of a deity repeatedly. Let us take off our blinders and start taking notice. It is time to democratize and secularize the issue of practice and worship, not politicize it.


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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 05:33:06 PM »
I'm glad you discovered this - what little piece of treasure. Thank you! The piece is especially relevant to the several discussions going on at the moment about Tibet's position in relation to China and Tibet's "fight" for autonomy. Lots of article on the front page now, for example, about how Tibet needs to adjust its approach both in dealing with China as well as in dealing with their own exiled community. Have a read of these links below, might help in this discussion:

Operation make friends: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/operation-make-friends/

How Shugden lamas are bring tibetans back to Tibet: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/how-the-shugden-lamas-are-bringing-tibetans-back-to-tibet/

What stands out as a prominent point is the fact that the CTA needs to develop a more independent and secular stance when it comes to politics. This needs to be clearly separated from the way in which they used to govern their country back in Old Tibet, which saw an overlap of both the spiritual and the secular. Rather than rely on the Dalai Lama to fight their battles for them - as they have been since they left Tibet in 1959, the CTA need to stand their political and diplomatic ground now as the ruling body of the exiled Tibetans and develop their own firm policies. Then, when the Dalai Lama does pass away (not that we are wishing for this!), they can continue and maintain their battle for independence with confidence. The largest problem for the Tibetans have been their large over-dependency on the Dalai Lama, which is taken almost to extremes and without any real logical and reasonable thinking on their own part.

Another article that's up at the moment, Is It Interference? (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/is-it-interference/) also brings up this question of the inherent chaos that the Dalai Lama creates for his own government and people when he becomes involved in areas where he shouldn't need to be. This article in particular questions his involvement and decision-making in the internal affairs of individual sects (the Karma Kagyu's contestation over the two Karmapas and the Dorje Shugden issue within the Gelugpa school are cited in this artcle). For what happens, the article asks, when the Dalai Lama passes away? "Will the CTA continue to uphold his directives when he’s not around? If so, what basis or right would they have to do this when, as a secular body, they have absolutely no authority within a spiritual sphere?"

The same applies for a political, secular sphere. While the CTA are continuing to overlap their policies with those of the Dalai Lama's - such supporting a religious ban, like the one on Dorje Shugden's practice - how will they maintain and sustain these kinds of directives once the Dalai Lama is gone? Without developing their own stance on such issues, which are clearly separated from those of the Dalai Lama's, this governing body will never truly be one that governs, but remain one that merely puppets. So what happens when the puppet master is no longer there? The strings of the marionette get tangled and the puppet is rendered immovable. They risk paralyzing themselves and losing complete control of their "limbs".


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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 05:08:10 AM »
At this time, CTA really needs to grow up and become a real government as opposed to one who is shadowed by the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama has already given up secular powers over CTA, so his edicts and policies such as the ban on Dorje Shugden on a secular level should also stop. They should really try their best to sincerely make amends with China and Dorje Shugden because Dorje Shugden can help them achieve the independence they need while making friends with China is a no-brainer because if you want Tibet back, it is only a good idea to be friends with China, so that China will have better treatment of the Tibetans in Tibet, and lastly, stop all the self immolations or send a stronger message to stop them.

Obviously, none of this would happen, so CTA will always be stuck where they are.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2015, 08:04:25 AM »
I do agree with Ensapa, it's time for the CTA to mature and become a real government. Stop spreading fake information about this sacred practise of Lord Dorje Shugden and poison the minds of other practitioners. We must all unite and do whatever we can to lift the ban, too many families, lives have been parted throughout all these years.