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Buddhist monks held in India for defamation
« on: February 16, 2012, 09:29:07 AM »
I saw this interesting article today, where Buddhist monks have been held in India for "offending the religious sentiments of others".

I copy paste the section on the legal sections under Indian Law:

The relevant sections under the Indian law are:

295-A (which deals with deliberate and malicious act intended to outrage religious feelings)

298 (uttering words with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings),

153-A (promoting enmity between groups on religious grounds),

153-B (imputations prejudicial to national integration)

120-B (criminal conspiracy).

And section the related section 504:

504. Intentional insult with intent to provoke breach of the peace.

Don't you think that the Dorje Shugden ban and subsequent discrimination/excommunication in the Tibetan refugee settlements in INDIA is contrary to Indian Law??? Is it because the Indian government is wary of upsetting the applecart - i.e. not willing to publicly go against HH the Dalai Lama?

The article also states that "This creates a situation where anyone can claim that anything is offensive and the government is obliged to act." and that the law is vague. If the law is so vague and the onus is on the defendant, why do you think that even though Kundeling Rinpoche has previously tried to sue the Dalai Lama, there has been no success?
 


Buddhist monks held in India for defamation

http://enlightenmentward.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/buddhist-monks-held-in-india-for-defamation/
16/02/2012

In Karnataka India a well known Buddhist monk and his associates has been arrested and charged with defamation and offending the religious sentiments of others. The Hindu newspaper, one of the largest in India reports that Bhante Bhodhidamma and four others are being detained without bail. These monks are associated with the Bijapur Indosan Sogenji India Community School and other projects which are designed to help Dalits, known previously as “untouchables”, under the International Buddhist Youth Organization which is affiliated with One Drop Zendo directed by Shodo Harada Roshi who is listed as their root teacher.

These charges under sections 153 (A), 295 and 504 of the Indian Penal Code are often used when one person or group feels some sense of offence or one person or group would like to censor another or as a form of legal harassment. It is one of the most over used and abused sections of the Indian Penal Code.

The original law has been around since the first Penal Code was codified in 1860 and has had little revision. It is also part of the basis for some of the thinking behind some of the censorship provisions that appear in the Internet Technology Act. A discussion of that aspect is available at the Bar and Bench blog which covers legal issues.

At present it is being used to attempt to get large social media and Internet companies to censor the content they provide. It has been cited numerous times to attempt to silence Salman Rushdie and other writers as well as journalists covering topics of religious sectarianism.

At the recent Jaipur literary festival four authors read from Salman Rushdie’s work and have now been charged with the same charges as the monks. From the Index on Censorship website’s article India: How to silence a nation the very same sections of the Code are being used:

The relevant sections under the Indian law are:

295-A (which deals with deliberate and malicious act intended to outrage religious feelings)

298 (uttering words with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings),

153-A (promoting enmity between groups on religious grounds),

153-B (imputations prejudicial to national integration)

120-B (criminal conspiracy).

And section the related section 504:

504. Intentional insult with intent to provoke breach of the peace.

As the New Statesman (http://www.newstatesman.com/asia/2012/01/india-religious-banned-salman) puts it,

Mass outrage and censorship in India have a long history, thanks to Section 295a of the penal code, which outlaws "deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings or any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs". This creates a situation where anyone can claim that anything is offensive and the government is obliged to act.

The law is incredibly vague and ill defined which leaves it wide open for all kinds of abuse. Once the accusation has been made the onus is on the defendant to use legal maneuvers as well as public pressure in order to demonstrate innocence. With most laws related to censorship it operates in a fashion that is backwards to the normal course of criminal prosecution in democratic countries.

With regard to the situation with the monks, they have garnered a lot of support. There are demonstrations on their behalf as well as being covered in one of the largest national newspapers.  The full report from The Hindu Monk’s arrest turns into a controversy (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/article2894787.ece).

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Re: Buddhist monks held in India for defamation
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 11:18:33 AM »
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295-A (which deals with deliberate and malicious act intended to outrage religious feelings)

298 (uttering words with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings),

153-A (promoting enmity between groups on religious grounds),

You have GOT to be kidding me, thats the ban right there! Come on! When His Holiness was in Drepung and he said to expel monks who continue to practice DS,  isnt that deliberate intent to wound religious feelings? And vague is an understatement - exactly how do you measure or demonstrate intent?

I think youve hit the nail on the head with your applecart comment. My POV is that the Indian government doesnt want to explain why they are arresting an internationally beloved figure. Its scandalously enough as it is that their law allows Kundeling Rinpoche to take the Dalai Lama to court.

Mid-level Indian bureaucrats, as Ive experienced it anyway, are still very respectful of the Sangha and would find it difficult to arrest any monk, let alone His Holiness. To them itd be such a great and unforgivable mark of disrespect.

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Re: Buddhist monks held in India for defamation
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 05:57:37 PM »
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295-A (which deals with deliberate and malicious act intended to outrage religious feelings)

298 (uttering words with deliberate intent to wound religious feelings),

153-A (promoting enmity between groups on religious grounds),

You have GOT to be kidding me, thats the ban right there! Come on! When His Holiness was in Drepung and he said to expel monks who continue to practice DS,  isnt that deliberate intent to wound religious feelings? And vague is an understatement - exactly how do you measure or demonstrate intent?

I think youve hit the nail on the head with your applecart comment. My POV is that the Indian government doesnt want to explain why they are arresting an internationally beloved figure. Its scandalously enough as it is that their law allows Kundeling Rinpoche to take the Dalai Lama to court.

Mid-level Indian bureaucrats, as Ive experienced it anyway, are still very respectful of the Sangha and would find it difficult to arrest any monk, let alone His Holiness. To them itd be such a great and unforgivable mark of disrespect.

Actually, the Dalai Lama is such a powerful political asset for India.
With one word, the Dalai Lama could create civil unrest in the whole of Tibet, he has that power.
China knows that. India knows that.
The Dalai Lama is a guest in India and he is also a powerful political asset for India when it comes for India to deal with China.