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Re: The First Lama That China Sent Abroad
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2013, 12:43:24 PM »
When China is supporting lamas to give teaching outside China, and especially in the Western world, it must be resonating in the minds of many westerners that have the tendency to simplify the situation in Tibet as (being an "occupied" territory) and are also inclined to see the DL as a kind of a martyr fighting against a country vaguely identified as an "oppressor".
they will have to re-think that!

The westerners must wonder how and why is it that such "oppressor" is actually founding and supporting lamas that travel the world with a message of peace and tolerance.
With more research, these Westerners will find that the oppressors where those that applied a ban on freedom by ostracizing the practitioners of Dorje Shugden. The oppressors were the CTA!

They will find that the DL speaks of peace, tolerance, fairness, forgiveness AND, at the same time, installs a ban on a large population of his fellow Tibetans.
They will also find that the lamas that the government of China is supporting speak of peace, compassion and fairness and also practice it, even more so, they practice it without mixing politics and religion.

Also, to see China sending lamas abroad can only mean that China IS supporting and protecting the Tibetan culture, I mean, where would they find lamas if the Tibetan culture had vanished from Tibet...

This can only reduce further more the influence of the CTA.
This will also have the result to bring Dharma to a larger audience.

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Re: The First Lama That China Sent Abroad
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2013, 05:22:52 PM »
It's nice to see China government is developing more and more Tibet monastery and support the growth of Dharma, at the same time support Sangha member to rebuild people inner peace. China is growing and if we really want Dharma to grow, why don't just work with China government hand in hand to bring inner and other peace to millions.

You raise a very important point there whitelion. Without the Chinese governments support, this would not be possible. Lama Jampa would not have the freedom to travel and teach, and the finances to do so if he did not receive the Chinese governments support. Would the Tibetan government be able to do this for the lamas? Perhaps because they did so in the past. However, as recent events have shown, their main skill now seems to be politicising religious issues like Dorje Shugden.

Cynics might say that the Chinese government is doing this as a PR stunt but who cares? (a) they make up for all of the terrible things they did during the Cultural Revolution (b) the monasteries need regeneration anyway (c) as long as its authentic Dharma teachers teaching the authentic Dharma, then the result will be good. Even if the Chinese government does a 180 in the future, the seeds of Dharma will have been planted in countless minds during this time, by these compassionate teachers.

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Re: The First Lama That China Sent Abroad
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2013, 05:05:55 AM »
You raise a very important point there whitelion. Without the Chinese governments support, this would not be possible. Lama Jampa would not have the freedom to travel and teach, and the finances to do so if he did not receive the Chinese governments support. Would the Tibetan government be able to do this for the lamas? Perhaps because they did so in the past. However, as recent events have shown, their main skill now seems to be politicising religious issues like Dorje Shugden.

Cynics might say that the Chinese government is doing this as a PR stunt but who cares? (a) they make up for all of the terrible things they did during the Cultural Revolution (b) the monasteries need regeneration anyway (c) as long as its authentic Dharma teachers teaching the authentic Dharma, then the result will be good. Even if the Chinese government does a 180 in the future, the seeds of Dharma will have been planted in countless minds during this time, by these compassionate teachers.
Obviously, the Tibetan government cannot. Lamas are left to themselves to scout for sponsors with no assistance from the CTA at all. In that aspect, China is much better than CTA because they actually send their Lamas abroad so that more people can benefit, but with that said, the CTA themselves are a failure in more ways than one as they still lack the funding that an ordinary government would have and they have shown very little commitment to Buddhism actually, although they are supposed to be a Buddhist government

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Re: The First Lama That China Sent Abroad
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2013, 08:43:27 PM »
Thank you Dharma Defender for this great article, sharing such great news with all of us.

I agree with Ensapa, I do not think that the CTA is able to do things like sending lamas overseas for Dharma teachings. Reason is that the CTA is too selfish and self-centered to care about if the rest of te world would benefit or not, and that they only care about themselves (making them look good, and coming up with poor me stories). I do not even think that they have the intention of helping Dharma to grow in other countries apart from Tibet and the places that they reside at.

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Re: The First Lama That China Sent Abroad
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2013, 01:31:35 AM »
Thank you Dharma Defender for this great article, sharing such great news with all of us.

I agree with Ensapa, I do not think that the CTA is able to do things like sending lamas overseas for Dharma teachings. Reason is that the CTA is too selfish and self-centered to care about if the rest of te world would benefit or not, and that they only care about themselves (making them look good, and coming up with poor me stories). I do not even think that they have the intention of helping Dharma to grow in other countries apart from Tibet and the places that they reside at.

They cant even help Dharma to grow in Dharamsala apart from building the monasteries, even that was done by the Dalai Lama and not really by the CTA. And there are no further contributions or projects that we have heard CTA initiating for the Dharma at all after that. So it shows that the CTA is not interested in the Dharma at all but they are only interested in retaining their position, but doing nothing useful with it. And this is supposed to be a government that was formed to protect the Buddha Dharma.

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Re: The First Lama That China Sent Abroad
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2013, 09:27:40 PM »
They cant even help Dharma to grow in Dharamsala apart from building the monasteries, even that was done by the Dalai Lama and not really by the CTA. And there are no further contributions or projects that we have heard CTA initiating for the Dharma at all after that. So it shows that the CTA is not interested in the Dharma at all but they are only interested in retaining their position, but doing nothing useful with it. And this is supposed to be a government that was formed to protect the Buddha Dharma.

Why should we talk about the CTA helping the growth of Dharma when they do not even help the growth of their own people? Just look at the Tibetans, many of them are being very silly with their so called knowledge on things. Why did the CTA not provide them with better education? It is all about how selfish CTA is. Only caring for themselves, and not the citizens or the area that they reside in.

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Re: The First Lama That China Sent Abroad
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2015, 01:01:13 PM »
The Chinese Communist Government is thought to atheist which has not place for religion.

Does not seem so when they sent their first Lama overseas to Switzerland to teach Dharma. China is reclaiming their cultural practice of Buddhism.