HHDL: Religion should not be a source of division and conflict

[Ringo Starr]

 HHDL: “Religion should not be a source of division and conflict. It is important to remember the concept of one truth, one religion on the level of an individual. And several truths, several religions on the level of the community.”

http://www.tibetanjournal.com/index.php/2016/07/30/how-world-should-consider-the-300m-pilgrimage-dalai-lama-took-by-walk/

Agreed. Now can the Dorje Shugden ban please be lifted?

[Tenzin Malgyur]

His Holiness addressed the gathering that “Religion should not be a source of division and conflict. It is important to remember the concept of one truth, one religion on the level of an individual. And several truths, several religions on the level of the community.”



Sorry, my simple mind could not grasp the meaning of the above phrase. How His Holiness preached on tolerance and unity between believers of different religions. It's just strange that all the talks on inter-religious harmony for the whole world does not include the Dorje Shugden practitioners. Even if the Shugdenpas' beliefs does not appeal to the likes of His Holiness, please do not incite hatred towards them. Where is the tolerance for the Shugden believers living in the exile community?

[grandmapele]

“despite their difference in philosophies, their goals are same and therefore they should put aside their small differences.” If this applies to the conflict between Shia and Sunni muslims,  how about Shugden and non-Shugden practitioners.

“He also emphasised that it is totally wrong to title a terrorist by their religion. “Once a believer commits an act of terror he or she is no longer a true practitioner of their faith.” said His Holiness.” – by the same principle, does that mean that the followers of the Dalai Lama are no longer true practitioners of their faith?

“the differences in the philosophies among all the religions are not matters of concern to harm others and all the tragic incidents of terrorism that is plaguing the peace of the world can be stopped from mutual respect” – why is there still a difference/divide amongst the Tibetan Buddhists, and a ban on the practice of Dorje Shugden. What’s the difference in this religion compared to other religions of the world that they can have peace and harmony despite their differences while the Tibetan Buddhists cannot?

And, he said that there were too many refugees in Europe not too long ago.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Dalai-Lama-says-too-many-refugees-in-Europe/articleshow/52522387.cms[/url]
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5590.0


And, yes, Ringo Starr, “Agreed. Now can the Dorje Shugden ban please be lifted?”. I’m with you here.

[SabS]

The Dalai Lama insults us and treats us as imbecile who could not distinguish the real facts from his "compassionate & love" statement. His statement “Religion should not be a source of division and conflict. It is important to remember the concept of one truth, one religion on the level of an individual. And several truths, several religions on the level of the community.” is very dharmic and yet his actions are completely the opposite. He used religion to incite hatred and force against Shugden practitioners during his religious teaching events, as we see in videos of proof. 

"Religion should not be a source of division and conflict"...does that mean we are to take his accusation of our enlightened Protector Dorje Shugden to be a "spirit" passively and allow his government CTA to inflict sufferings on the Shugden practitioners passively? Where would our compassion be if we were to passively watch our dharma brothers and sisters suffering due to their loyalty to their Gurus who had given the beneficial Dorje Shugden practise to them?

[dsnowlion]

If only HH Dalai Lama would apply and say the same things to all Dorje Shugden practitioners is all I can say.

Why are we any different for the Muslims in Ladakh Your Holiness?
Are not humans too?
Do we not have the same equal human rights?
Are we not worthy of compassion?
The very core teachings of Buddhism is to gain Enlightenment for all sentient beings and to be of benefit to all sentient beings?
What is all sentient beings... does it not include us Shugdenpa?

Dear Your Holiness Dalai Lama,
Can you please kindly practice what you preach to others? Please start from home....

 

[grandmapele]

dsnowlion, I like the questions that you asked of the 14 Dalai Lama. Very pertinent. At the bottom of it all, there can be differences in approach to a religion especially in Buddhism. That's why the Buddha taught in 84,000 ways to the core of Buddhism.

Like, I'm perplexed as to why and how the Shugdenpas are different from other Buddhists?

[pgdharma]

“Religion should not be a source of division and conflict. It is important to remember the concept of one truth, one religion on the level of an individual. And several truths, several religions on the level of the community.

“Different philosophies are necessary. For well over two thousand years, different ways of life developed. Great teachers appeared and taught the message of love. But because of different environment, there were different ways of life. So there are different mental dispositions. Therefore it is necessary to have different philosophical views” His Holiness explained the gathering about the importance of religious diversity.

Well said, Dalai Lama, So will this be applied to Dorje Shugden practitioners as well? Dorje Shugden practitioners are human too and they are worthy of compassion. They are deprived of human rights. Lift the ban and practice what you preached!

[vajratruth]

Just add this quote to the long list of contradictions that has come to define the 14th Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama has spoken about peace, tolerance, harmony and peace and yet his actions reflect none of what he preaches. This is nothing new.

A more compelling discussion would be why the public continues to buy into the Dalai Lama's bunkum. The Dalai Lama uses the Tibetan Buddhist religion as a political instrument and weapon. Just look at the most disturbing conflicts that have plagued the Tibetan people. Apart from the issue of rangzen vs umaylam, all of them are religion-based and have the Dalai Lama's hand in them.

If the Dalai Lama truly believe that '...different philosophies are necessary" then he would not have instigated the melting down of the different Tibetan Buddhist traditions in the 60's and the failed attempt and merging all the different lineages into one with him as the supreme leader.

[Vajraprotector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgdQn5O8VI

His Holiness praying at the ancient Jama Masjid mosque in New Delhi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wxmnK6CN8

His Holiness praying in Israel


His Holiness would pray alongside Muslims in a mosque to promote religious tolerance and harmony, but for 20 years, never consent to a dialogue with Dorje Shugden practitioners' representatives.

"I always say that every person on this earth has the freedom to practice or not practice religion. It is all right to do either. "
- Excerpts from His Holiness the Dalai Lama's address to the inter-faith seminar organised by the International Association for Religious Freedom, Ladakh Group, in Leh on 25 August.

Yet, as we move nearer to the last quarter of 2016, still, no sign from His Holiness that the ban will be lifted. Indeed, where is the freedom to practice religion, His Holiness? It has become worse now that the Central Tibetan Administration has passed a resolution to make all Dorje Shugden practitioners criminals.

At this stage, I appeal that all Dorje Shugden practitioners and friends, please continue to get involve actively to create awareness about the Dorje Shugden ban. It has been more than 20 years.

More info:20 Years of Suffering: Lift the Shugden Ban
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/20-years-of-suffering-lift-the-shugden-ban/

Perhaps like what His Holiness said during the U.S. Institute of Peace event in June 2016, this is not the time to only rely on prayers. Everyone needs to do more and let more people know about the unethical Dorje Shugden ban.

"Although some are quite skeptical about the effects of prayer. It has to come through action. SERIOUS ACTION, CONTINUOUSLY, DESPITE DIFFICULTIES, and a lot of obstacles. We cannot lose our determination, our courage and on top of that, some prayer is ok, no harm. Without action, it is just prayer, I am quite skeptical. "
- Excerpts from His Holiness' speech at U.S. Institute of Peace event , June 2016

You can make a difference:
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/make-a-difference-today-say-yes-to-religious-freedom/

[DharmaSpace]

Religion should only bring peace, and harmony. Not greater divide, and definitely not more wrong views.

What possible benefit is there, to keep the Dorje Shugden ban, this really puzzles me.

We all know there are so much more threats and opposition to Buddhism, within and without certainly greater than any practitioner who studies and learn the Lamrim.

How does targeting Dorje Shugden practice and people bring any improvements to Buddhism? Does it make Buddhism more attractive to others? The Buddha himself never said that in the distant future his doctrine will be destroyed by people who claim to be from Tsongkhapa's tradition. It is very puzzling as to why carry on the ban?