is Dorje Shugden GOD?

[Dondrup Shugden]

Wow what a great explanation, thank you Chokyi Dorje.  However the point is that the God that is being believed was the creator of all is not a concept that Buddhist believes but only in the form of the mind which is formless and all pervasive then this theory is believed.

I think I can understand that.

[pinecone]

The Buddha never considered himself to be a god . In contrary , he has proven and shown by examples of himself  to others that all being can eventually be enlightened. Only after his death was he exalted to god status by some of his followers, though not all of his followers viewed him that way. Buddhists believe in the existence of an Enlightened being, who vows to save all sentient beings out of suffering in samsara. According to the Buddhist ideology, anyone can enlighten himself by undertaking a method of mental discipline and a code of conduct. In other words Dorje Shugden is regarded as the incarnation of the five Buddha families!

[eyesoftara]

There is one simple mental experiment that we can do regarding the "almighty creator God". If for a moment we imagine that there is no human, would there be a need for God to exist. Or does he twiddle his fingers everyday with nothing to do? The same applies for the angels and devils that God "created". So if we postulate further, then we realize that it cannot be that God created the Universe and populate only 0.00000000.............001% of the Universe to praise him or let His plan pan? Why not the entire Universe? If you built a palace, won't you live in more than one room?

It follows that then we have only one choice and that is we created "God" that is Omnipotent. Hence, it also follows that we are Omnipotent. How then that we are ignorant. It follows then we are ignorant of the fact that we are omnipotent because we only focus on this one self similar to the fact that we only talk about the Earth and not the other 99999999........999%.

[eyesoftara]

Oh yes. Dorje Shugden is not a GOD. He is a realize being and on Earth we label Him as a Buddha but conceptually is has realize the Ultimate truth. He has not a single pore that has a self written on him. Only for us because we are limited in capacity has to have Him in some kind of form that is easier for us to see and visualise. Otherwise an enlightened beings is no being but is everything and is omnipresence.

By definition, there is no such thing as Omnipotent.

[Jason Statham]

If the word GOD means the way you explained it. Then Yes, Dorje Shugden is a GOD, all Buddha's minds are connected as one and they are equal. If Dorje Shugden is God, so is Buddha Shakyamuni, Lama Tsongkhapa, Manjushri and all the enlightened beings. It is a probability that Jesus might be an enlightened Buddha too. As it has been said by Buddha Shakymuni, there are more than 84,000 ways to teach the Dharma so that is why we need many many different Buddhas to teach the Dharma because there are also many different types of people too. I hope you got your answer through reading this comment. Thank you for reading.

[DharmaSpace]

I think Dorje Shugden being a Buddha he gives us methods to help us along the spiritual path and also how to live a better life and has the wisdom and compassion to guide sentient beings along the path, unlike a God that either just punishes or rewards. But having studied buddhism we know there are no free lunches in this world, that if a supernatural being 'answers' our prayer they would have to tap into karma that is stored for a future occurrence.

I suppose with Dorje Shugden with his unlimited compassion and wisdom, and unobstructed seeing the past/present and future, even though he taps into our karma to help us he knows for sure we will not be severely impacted and that by helping us it benefits us to engage in dharma practice. Helps from worldly gods, although such beings may even have good intention, because their clairvoyance is limited they wisdom may not factor in all possibilities. So help from  worldly gods will be a shadow of what Dorje Shugden can help us with.

The people who pray to Dorje Shudgen out of desperation, beings who may have quite a lot of suffering may view Dorje SHudgen as a 'God; who fulfill their wishes, especially if they do not know for Dorje Shudgen to be able to help they also must have the karma to be helped and especially if they have not spend so much time learning about the workings of Karma, Dorje Shugden is their saviour god it would seem to them. Not only that I also think that people who have low merits and lots of karma and suffering, they may need the help of a Dharma protector like Dorje Shugden to help them.  A dharmapala with the power of 1000 dharmapala.

[grandmapele]

From my limited understanding, we can never hope to be God in other religions. We can only hope for salvation. In Buddhism we practice so that we can be Buddhas ourselves. There's always mention of the phrase "Buddha within us". Other religions does not subscribe to that. Guess that's from the shallowest view.