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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2014, 01:39:41 PM »
How come the Dalai Lama, revered by Tibetans as Chenrezig, only came to realize that he all along he had been doing a spirit practice after so many decades?

What next?

Will the Dalai Lama wake up one fine day and realize that Lama Tsongkhapa was just an illiterate butcher who faked his attainments? Will the Dalai Lama ban the practice? Then there will be no Gelug lineage? Then what about all the Dalai Lamas???


"The Dalai Lama said that though he himself had once worshipped the spirit, he had come “to realize that there was something wrong with it, particularly in the context of the Buddhist tradition,” said a weekend report on the website of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), Tibet’s India-based government in exile."

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2014, 02:01:48 AM »
Buddhists should be afraid of their own actions and the repercussions of it instead of the formless Buddhas and Dharma protectors. Destroying a statue in the name of a unfounded ban should be the least important part of our practice. We should not reduce the teachings of Je Tsongkhapa, Atisha and the Buddha himself down to the worship of authentic deities. The refutation of Dorje Shugden should be carried down on the debate floor in the same manner as Nalanda and the great Indian masters of old.

They should do it like how the great debate at Samye with Shantarakshita representing the Indian side and Hvashang representing the Chinese side. In the end, through debate, the Indian master and their rich tradition of Buddhist study, enquiry and gradual method towards enlightenment won the debate. Ever since, Tibetans would only draw the Buddhist teachings from Indian masters and monasteries. Likewise, they should do one for Dorje Shugden and I think most of us who are in the know will already know what the outcome would be.

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2014, 09:43:31 AM »
One more innocent life is lost due to the ban on Dorje Shugden.  This ban is nothing but suffering and pain for the Dorje Shugden followers including the pro-Dalai Lama supporters.  It simply does not benefit anyone at all!  Why is His Holiness Dalai Lama remained unperturbed? Does His Holiness Dalai Lama care about the well-being of all affected by this terrible ban on Dorje Shugden? For sentient beings' sake, please lift the ban!

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2014, 01:17:33 PM »
Very sad news that people who are loyal DS practitioners have to sacrifice their lives for the practice. Don't the Dalai Lama felt any sense of guilt that because of the impose of the ban that so many people perish and also separated from their families?
How much more sufferings these people have to go through before the ban will be lifted?
Maybe it's about time now for the ban to be finally lifted so that everyone can practice openly without any fear.

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2014, 01:35:19 PM »

It is a very sad situation There is too much suffering out there.I feel really sad for the people who said something negative about Dorje Shugden who is an Enlightened Buddha .May there be freedom for all regardless of sect,religion,class or creed.May compassion rule and the ban lifted.

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2014, 01:53:16 PM »
Another death. Another life prematurely terminated as a result of the ban. So many people have suffered strict oppression, pressurized and had no alternative but to take their own lives as a result of great pressure. It is not a matter of who is right or who is wrong. It is not a matter of which side a person is. The end result is the ban has caused too much turmoil, unrest and worse still, in this case DEATH .So in a very real sense, his blood is on CTA's hands because everyone of this act is a direct result of the ban.

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2014, 01:56:35 AM »
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The refutation of Dorje Shugden should be carried down on the debate floor in the same manner as Nalanda and the great Indian masters of old.

You thoroughly miss the point. What is at stake is not the authenticity of the deity Dorje Shugden, but rather the universal human right of freedom of belief and religion, the right to worship any deity or no deity at all, as long as you don't interfere with the same right of others, without being harassed, persecuted, or discriminated.

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They should do it like how the great debate at Samye with Shantarakshita representing the Indian side and Hvashang representing the Chinese side. In the end, through debate, the Indian master and their rich tradition of Buddhist study, enquiry and gradual method towards enlightenment won the debate. Ever since, Tibetans would only draw the Buddhist teachings from Indian masters and monasteries. Likewise, they should do one for Dorje Shugden and I think most of us who are in the know will already know what the outcome would be.

Another ridiculous proposal. Freedom of belief and religion is a human right, period, and not the topic for any idiotic debate aiming at curtailing it.

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2014, 06:55:04 AM »
I hope the Dalai Lama will hear of this and realise what his ban on Dorje Shugden is doing to his people. Chenrezig is the Buddha of Compassion and not one who creates suffering.

This goes with all the other people who has suffered and created more negative karma from the ban.

If Dalai Lama is truly Chenrezig, he would know the effects of the ban on his people and everyone else for the matter who is against and for the Dalai Lama. It is true everyone creates their own karma. Karma is created when there is a condition to open up a karmic seed. This is especially puzzling to those who believed in the bigger picture and this ban is an act of divine play by the higher beings. I have no answer for this but I know that Chenrezig or any buddhas will not forget those who committed such negative actions to suffer but to find ways to help them.



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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2014, 08:52:06 AM »
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If Dalai Lama is truly Chenrezig, he would know the effects of the ban

If the evil dalai were Chenrezig, he would not perpetrate the ban to start with.

And there is no need for one to be ”Chenrezig” in order to know the effects of the vicious ban; it is enough that one is not a psychopath, but this is exactly what the evil dalai is.

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Re: Tibetan Man Kills Himself to Avoid Arrest in Statue Controversy
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2014, 06:55:47 PM »
The evil dalai's attemp to destroy Buddhist statues and symbols shows that he is faithful to his Muslim terrorist roots. Look at what his fellow Muslims are doing right now in Iraq.

Cultural terrorism in Iraq
 
Islamist militants from the Islamic State faction in the Iraqi city of Mosul have been destroying cultural landmarks and religious shrines, claiming they are contrary to Islam. The residents are fighting back.

At the weekend the Islamic State militants decided to target the 840-year-old Crooked Minaret and converged on the area armed with explosives. Hundreds of local residents ran to the area and packed the courtyard, telling the militants that if they destroyed the Minaret then they would have to do so over their dead bodies. The militants backed down and went away. For now.

In the last few weeks, however, the militants have ignored pleas from locals and have begun a systematic iconoclastic campaign to destroy all monuments they claim do not respect Islam, because they claim that by representing figures other than Allah, they are encouraging worship away from Allah.

The militant faction has been in control of Mosul since June.

http://english.pravda.ru/news/society/29-07-2014/128178-iraq_terrorism-0/