Author Topic: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?  (Read 25180 times)

Matibhadra

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2015, 09:20:17 PM »
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When we practise "an eye for an eye" in revenge, the whole world will go blind.

Sure. Still, your mistake is that you equate, and put on the same level, terrorism and denouncing terrorism, to the point of calling the latter “an eye for an eye”.

This shows that, thanks to your subservient attitude to a gangster, whom you deify as “Chenrezig”, you have introjected and adopted his amoral, abominable views.

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It is not about sides being taken but rather as a DS devotee, it is my personal wish to have the ban lifted in an amicable way along the tenets of Buddhism.

Agreed. And just like the foolish naked emperor, who used to treat harshly his subjects, amicably recognized that he was an idiot when his nakedness was denounced, in the same way the evil dalie will amicably enter the garbage bin of History as soon as his gangsterism is enough denounced, which is thoroughly in accordance with the tenets of Buddhism.

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No offence to your arguments and points of view, but it would be good for you to consider mine in a light of acceptance.

I consider your arguments about deifying and befriending a callous, stiffened terrorist in the light of analysis, which reveals how dark and tortuous your arguments are.

“Acceptance” without analysis is what you do when it comes to tales about the “divinity” of your favorite gangster, which is precisely what makes you not a Buddhist.

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2015, 09:37:15 AM »
Yes, that reason to unite obviously doesn't work because there is more people rebelling against this and their numbers are growing. Also it doesn't help that the Dalai Lama and his people deny the religious discrimination and cause many problems to the Shugden people in Tibet. He should just stop. He was wrong in his predictions. he must make peace, he stands for it. He must stop the pain, stop the religious discrimination. He must restore peace and let Dorje Shugden embrace this world one more

Matibhadra

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2015, 01:39:05 PM »
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he must make peace

Do not expect that the evil dalie will ever make peace. He is the very evil entity to be pacified.

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2015, 04:38:42 AM »
I believe finally the tide is turning towards the lifting of the ban as the world's attention to the ban is being highlighted with the demonstrations wherever the Dalai Lama turns up. More of the media who turned a blind eye to the atrocities of the ban is now picking up the issues and reporting the facts of the ban and even made fun of the Dalai Lama about his bungled statement that a female Dalai Lama must be an attractive one.

This is a breakthrough in itself as we must understand that previously the Dalai Lama has been generically been refer to as love and compassion by the west more so than the Pope.

I feel the ban will be lifted soon.

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2015, 08:17:27 AM »
It is obvious that whatever Dalai Lama is doing now it does not work no way Dalai Lama can unite the whole sect of Tibetan Buddhism. Whatever the Dalai Lama do is not creating the ban of DS so at least the DS practitioner and the non DS practitioner do not fight again each others. May that ban lifted soon.

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2015, 03:50:23 PM »
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More of the media who turned a blind eye to the atrocities of the ban is now picking up the issues and reporting the facts of the ban

The evil dalie and his terrorist minions are presented by Western propaganda as some kind of “freedom fighters”, just like Muslim terrorists in Xinjiang, Chechnya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.

In any case, the target are great independent countries, such as Russia and China, which are the main obstacles to the Jewish-American pathological ambitions of global domination.

The evil dalie (himself a Muslim), just like those other Muslim terrorists, while of course entertaining his own petty, local ambitions, is therefore just a Western geopolitical puppet, sold as a “hero” by Western propaganda.

And, just like other puppets, after having been used enough by his Western puppet masters, the evil dalie will eventually be discarded when he is not useful anymore. Just look at the fate of former Western collaborators and puppets such as Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, and so forth.

Now that the evil dalie shows signs of wear, even Western propaganda starts to mock of him. This is a sure sign of his impending entrance into the garbage bin of history, where he rightly belongs together with his Western puppet masters.

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2015, 08:15:04 AM »
I don't quite understand why would the Dalai Lama think banning the Dorje Shugden practice will actually unite all the Buddhist sects together? Since they are from different sects, why would they even care about a 'spirit' that is related to Gelug? How is this even logical? Ban an enlightened protector's practice so that the rest of the Buddhists from different sects will unite as one. How is that even possible? May the ban be lifted quickly so that the Shugden practioners (especially the ones in India, Nepal and Tibet) are able to be treated equally and be able to practice Dorje Shugden freely.

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2015, 08:26:36 AM »
In all this time, not only has the ban done nothing to consolidate the Nyingmas, Kagyu and Sakya, not even to mention Gelug, situations have been going awry for the Dalai Lama. He recognized the Bon in 1987 and the Jonang 2011. It's very interesting as to why the Dalai Lama recognized Bon and Jonang. Even more interesting is the video where he doesn't think that Bon is a religion and yet recognized it as a school of Tibetan Buddhism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx5GtSb-fhc

It was mention in the Berzin Archives that the Dalai Lama is

 "From His Holiness' point of view, Bon has an equal place with the four Tibetan Buddhist lineages. His Holiness is very broadminded. " http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/study/comparison_buddhist_traditions/tibetan_traditions/bon_tibetan_buddhism.html

I personally find it at odds with his stance on the Dorje Shugden ban. One the one hand he accepts Bon with its worship of very different deities and yet cannot accept the Gelug protector.



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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2015, 12:55:17 AM »
As long as the ban remains there will always be stigma on Dorje Shugden practitioners especially new people who heard of the controversy the first time. The word of mouth is very damaging to people because everyone has doubt and we wouldn't want to involve ourselves. A religion is the way to find peace but CTA is using ban for his own ends. It is turning off potential people who can benefit from Dorje Shugden.

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Re: It is not working out, so how long more to wait?
« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2015, 05:02:14 AM »
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As long as the ban remains there will always be stigma on Dorje Shugden practitioners

The other way round. The stigma is only on those imposing and supporting the ban, to wit, the evil dalie and his minions; they are the criminals.