It's seems that Pastor Niral Patel is now stating that we should not practice Shangmo Dorje Putri.
He has stated in the past that she is part of Dorje Shugden's entourage and that her image(thangka) is on display at Tsem Tulku's Ladrang building.
He claims that she is too dangerous to practice since she is and "unenlightened" being.
That is a strange claim for him to make since both Namkar Barzin and Methar are also both "unenlightened" beings.
With Pastor Patel's logic since Shangmo is "unenlightened" and should not be practiced then Namkar Barzin and Methar should not be practiced.
Should we now believe that Dorje Shugden would place such a dangerous "Bamo" into his entourage?
That Kache Marpo would place Shangmo into his personal entourage along side of Methar if she was so dangerous?
Would the 1st Domo Geshe Rinpoche have knowingly placed a "Dangerous unenlightened" being into the entourage of Kache Marpo?
Would the 1st Domo Geshe Rinpoche build a "Chapel" for her at Tharpa Choling Monastery if she was so dangerous to his followers?
The answer is NO!!
I think that Pastor Patel is stuck with the false idea that Shangmo is a SAKYA BAMO and not a DORJE SHUGEN Dharmapala.
Shangmo "escaped" the Sakya and presented herself to Domo Geshe Rinpoche who accepted her as HIS dharmapala.
Not as a "SAKYA BAMO WITCH" but worthy of being in Kache Marpo's entourage.
Of being worthy of being in Dorje Shugden's retinue.
Of being worthy to we the followers of Dorje Shugden, Kache Marpo, Namkar Barzin and Methar.
Do any of us fear to practice Dorje Shugden, Kache Marpo, Namkar Barzin or Methar?
NOOOO!!
If we do not fear them then we should not fear Shangmo Dorje Putri.
The following link follows this discussion on "Ask a Pastor".
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Thank you Pastor Patel for answering my two questions about Shangmo Dorje Putri.
The thangka you display of Shangmo is from the Sakya lineage.
Did Domo Geshe Rinpoche create one for his Gelugpa monastery?
They must have one at her chapel at his Tharpa Choling Monastery in India.
here is a link I found on researching Shangmo.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=1589.msg21216#msg21216Quote
5. Shrine for Shangmo Dorje Bhuti: It is said that Shangmo was once a demon who disguised as a nomad woman. She was tamed by Sakya Gongma Rinpoche.
Around 1902, Shangmo escaped from the Sakya Monastery and followed Domo Geshe Rinpoche to Dungkar Gonpa, as Rinpoche also was the native of the same place, “Shang”. There at Dungkar Gonpa, she was bound under solemn oath to protect the monastery. In Tharpa Cholling, the storekeeper ordered Shangmo to protect the ration store room of Tharpa Choling monastery. Shangmo stayed in the store room up to the renovation of monastery. Now her abode has been shifted to Mani Lhagang with her special shrine.
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As a woman I would love to engage Shangmo Dorje Putri in my Dharmapala practice along side my Dorje Shugden practice.
Could you help me with that?
I'm sure there are many other woman who follow Dorje Shugden who would dearly love to practice this wonderful female companion of Dorje Shugden.
Thank you
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This is Pastor Niral Patel's reply.
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Dear Margo,
Unfortunately, we are not aware what sort of image was used for Shangmo Dorje Putri’s installation at Tharpa Choling Monastery. It could have been in the form of a thangka, or statue, or even another medium. All we know for a fact is that she has her own special altar there. You can read the information we have on Shangmo Dorje Putri here:
https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/shangmo-dorje-putri-the-bamo-of-sakya.htmlAs for the practice of Shangmo Dorje Putri, since she is not an enlightened being, it is advised not to engage in her practice unless authorised to do so by a high lama who can explain the practice to you. This is because Shangmo Dorje Putri is an unenlightened Bamo spirit, who can cause great harm to those who are not qualified enough or authorised to interact with her. It is better to rely on enlightened Dharma Protectors if we have not been assigned a Dharma Protector by our qualified Guru..........
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This is Margo's follow up question to Pastor Niral Patel which awaits his reply.
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Question asked by Margo
Hello Pastor Patel.
The Sakya may consider Shangmo Dorje Putri a "Bamo" but I don't believe Domo Geshe Rinpoche did when he made her a Dharmapala in Dorje Shugden's entourage.
If she was so dangerous why would Domo Geshe Rinpoche have her protect a kitchen store room?
Why would he create a chapel for such a so called dangerous "Bamo"?
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Around 1902, Shangmo escaped from the Sakya Monastery and followed Domo Geshe Rinpoche to Dungkar Gonpa, as Rinpoche also was the native of the same place, “Shang”. There at Dungkar Gonpa, she was bound under solemn oath to protect the monastery. In Tharpa Cholling, the storekeeper ordered Shangmo to protect the ration store room of Tharpa Choling monastery. Shangmo stayed in the store room up to the renovation of monastery.
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Shangmo Dorje Putri maybe not be enlightened but so are Namkar Barzin and Methar.
Are you saying that they also should not be practiced?
Why did she "Escape" the Sakya and seek out the help and protection of Domo Geshe Rinpoche?
The Sakya fear her yet the followers of Domo Geshe Rinpoche revere her as a Dharmapala in Dorje Shugden's entourage.
Domo Geshe Rinpoche had no fear of introducing her to Kache Marpo.
Kache Marpo supervisors her and Methar and we should have absolute confidence in Kache Marpo.
Are you saying that Dorje Shudgen would have such a dangerous "Bamo" in his entourage?
A "Bamo" that would be such a threat that we should not practice her as a Dharmapala??
Maybe you should contact Domo Geshe Rinpoche to find out if he is in agreement with you about Shangmo Dorje Putri.
Shangmo is no longer a Sakya "Bamo" she "Escaped" and was accepted by the great Dorje Shugden practitioner H.E. Domo Geshe Rinpoche.
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I do not believe that Domo Geshe Rinpoche, Kache Marpo and Dorje Shugden erred in this matter.
I pray that Pastor Patel will change his view about not allowing the practice of Shangmo Dorje Putri.
