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Dalai Lama to decide on his reincarnation
« on: September 25, 2011, 05:20:42 AM »
Just seen this online (http://www.hindustantimes.com/Dalai-to-decide-at-90-on-reincarnation-no-China-say/Article1-749677.aspx):

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While the growing age continues to stoke concern for hundreds of Tibetans, the aging Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso appears to be in no hurry to decide upon his reincarnation.

Putting all the speculations about his reincarnation into rest Tibetan spiritual leader on Saturday said that decision on his reincarnation would be taken when he reach the age of 90.

“When I am about 90, I will consult the high lamas of the Tibetan Buddhist traditions, the Tibetan public, and other people concerned who follow Tibetan Buddhism, and re-evaluate whether the institution of the Dalai Lama should continue or not,” says a statement issued by the Dalai Lama.

The former Tibetan prime minister, Samdhong Rinpoche, made the statement public.

Maintaining that no recognition or acceptance would be given to a candidate chosen for political ends by anyone including China the Dalai Lama said reincarnation was a phenomenon which should take place either take place either through voluntary choice of the concerned person or at least on the strength of his or her karma, merit and prayers.

"The person who reincarnates has sole legitimate authority over where and how he or she takes rebirth and how that reincarnation is to be recognized.   

Lashing out at Chinese communist regime for its interference in the religious matters of Tibet the Dalai Lama said it was inappropriate for Chinese communist, who explicitly reject ever the idea of past and future life, let alone the concept of reincarnation Tulkus, to meddle in the system of reincarnation and especially the reincarnation of the Dalai Lamas and Panceh Lamas.

"If it is decided that the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama should continue and there is a need for the Fifteenth Dalai Lama to be recognized, responsibility for doing so will primarily rest on the concerned officers of the Dalai Lama's Gaden Phodrang Trust," the Dalai Lama said.

"I shall leave clear written instructions about this. Bear in mind that, apart from the reincarnation recognized through such legitimate methods, no recognition or acceptance should be given to a candidate chosen for political ends by anyone, including those in the People's Republic of China," reads the statement.

Meanwhile addressing the press, Samdhong Rinpoche said, as the Dalai Lama had said to put ultra motive plans by the PRC authorities His Holiness has issued a very comprehensive and exhausted declarations and direction.

"After a certain period time he will again consult the religious heads and people whether Dalai Lama should continue or not and if it will be decided that the Dalai Lama institution should continue then how and who will do the necessary work for searching and recognition of the next Dalai Lama," said Rinpoche.

The issue of reincarnation of the Dalai Lama was dicussed in the three- day long conference of the heads and representatives of all the four sects of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon relegion.

The 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso- world face of the Tibetan freedom struggle who reached 77 this July had fled his homeland Tibet after the Chinese troops marched into Lhasa in 1959.

There is a growing fear that Tibetan movement would be impacted adversely after his death.


What do you lot think of the ramifications? Because I could of sworn at some point it was already mentioned that His Holiness has no intention of living to such an old age, or even of reincarnating as the Dalai Lama (like this interview here http://www.yowangdu.com/tibet/hh-dalai-lama/dalai-lama-interview.html)

Or is His Holiness giving us a chance to create the merit for him to remain for longer, because 90 means hell be with us for another 13 years. Either way, Im gobsmacked...one, he can control his reincarnation and two, hes introducing democracy to reincarnation and allowing people to decide whether he should reincarnate as the Dalai Lama or not?!

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Re: Dalai Lama to decide on his reincarnation
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 03:28:39 PM »
Thanks for the news, DharmaDefender! Two things stuck out to me from this post:

1. HH Dalai Lama is predicting he will live to at least 90... so much for Shugden practice shortening his life. With the growth of Shugden practice via monasteries such as Serpom and Shar Gaden, plus the monasteries in Tibet, plus the Dharma organisations such as NKT and various other organisations public and private, i would have thought HH Dalai Lama's days were numbered. Of course i'm glad he will live to 90 but it just shows the contradiction in terms.

2. Samdhong Rinpoche announced this? Hasn't he retired? Does the Dalai Lama have no other representatives? Also, the closeness of HHDL and Samdhong Rinpoche - a purported strong Shugden practitioner - is again a contradiction in terms.

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Re: Dalai Lama to decide on his reincarnation
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 12:49:00 PM »
Thanks for the news, DharmaDefender! Two things stuck out to me from this post:

1. HH Dalai Lama is predicting he will live to at least 90... so much for Shugden practice shortening his life.

Dear WB,

I really like what you wrote here. "So much for Shugden practice shortening his life.". That is so true. Very funny in fact. So much contradictions.

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Re: Dalai Lama to decide on his reincarnation
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 03:26:15 PM »
Seems like all the reasons given behind the big ban is slowly revealing it self as the big sad hoax.

Unfortunate for those who believed and acted unkindly to those who just wanted to do their practice. Unfortunate that they were given the prediction and advice by HH Trijang Rinpoche before hand yet failed to hear it.

I guess Dorje Shugden must have not been successful in shortening the Dalai Lama's life...
And many more high Lamas like Samdhong Rinpoche are coming out of the dark...
 
Guess Dalai Lama is Chenrezig and DS is Manjushri after all...

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Re: Dalai Lama to decide on his reincarnation
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 04:33:50 PM »
Just sharing the full text of HH Dalai Lama's statement re his reincarnation. I find it quite informative. Interesting also that the Dalai Lama mentions that they could refer to "reliable oath-bound Dharma Protectors who are linked inseparably to the lineage of the Dalai Lamas" for the next incarnation. I think that Dorje Shugden is pretty inseparably linked to the lineage of the Dalai Lamas for the past 369 years...

Statement of His Holiness the Fourteenth Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, on the Issue of His Reincarnation
http://dalailama.com/messages/tibet/reincarnation-statement
24  September 2011

Introduction

My fellow Tibetans, both in and outside Tibet, all those who follow the Tibetan Buddhist tradition, and everyone who has a connection to Tibet and Tibetans: due to the foresight of our ancient kings, ministers and scholar-adepts, the complete teaching of the Buddha, comprising the scriptural and experiential teachings of the Three Vehicles and the Four Sets of Tantra and their related subjects and disciplines flourished widely in the Land of Snow. Tibet has served as a source of Buddhist and related cultural traditions for the world. In particular, it has contributed significantly to the happiness of countless beings in Asia, including those in China, Tibet and Mongolia.

In the course of upholding the Buddhist tradition in Tibet, we evolved a unique Tibetan tradition of recognizing the reincarnations of scholar-adepts that has been of immense help to both the Dharma and sentient beings, particularly to the monastic community.

Since the omniscient Gedun Gyatso was recognized and confirmed as the reincarnation of Gedun Drub in the fifteenth century and the Gaden Phodrang Labrang (the Dalai Lama’s institution) was established, successive reincarnations have been recognized. The third in the line, Sonam Gyatso, was given the title of the Dalai Lama. The Fifth Dalai Lama, Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso, established the Gaden Phodrang Government in 1642, becoming the spiritual and political head of Tibet. For more than 600 years since Gedun Drub, a series of unmistaken reincarnations has been recognised in the lineage of the Dalai Lama. 

The Dalai Lamas have functioned as both the political and spiritual leaders of Tibet for 369 years since 1642. I have now voluntarily brought this to an end, proud and satisfied that we can pursue the kind of democratic system of government flourishing elsewhere in the world. In fact, as far back as 1969, I made clear that concerned people should decide whether the Dalai Lama’s reincarnations should continue in the future. However, in the absence of clear guidelines, should the concerned public express a strong wish for the Dalai Lamas to continue, there is an obvious risk of vested political interests misusing the reincarnation system to fulfil their own political agenda. Therefore, while I remain physically and mentally fit, it seems important to me that we draw up clear guidelines to recognise the next Dalai Lama, so that there is no room for doubt or deception. For these guidelines to be fully comprehensible, it is essential to understand the system of Tulku recognition and the basic concepts behind it. Therefore, I shall briefly explain them below.

Past and future lives


In order to accept reincarnation or the reality of Tulkus, we need to accept the existence of past and future lives. Sentient beings come to this present life from their previous lives and take rebirth again after death. This kind of continuous rebirth is accepted by all the ancient Indian spiritual traditions and schools of philosophy, except the Charvakas, who were a materialist movement. Some modern thinkers deny past and future lives on the premise that we cannot see them. Others do not draw such clear cut conclusions on this basis.

Although many religious traditions accept rebirth, they differ in their views of what it is that is reborn, how it is reborn, and how it passes through the transitional period between two lives. Some religious traditions accept the prospect of future life, but reject the idea of past lives.

Generally, Buddhists believe that there is no beginning to birth and that once we achieve liberation from the cycle of existence by overcoming our karma and destructive emotions, we will not be reborn under the sway of these conditions. Therefore, Buddhists believe that there is an end to being reborn as a result of karma and destructive emotions, but most Buddhist philosophical schools do not accept that the mind-stream comes to an end. To reject past and future rebirth would contradict the Buddhist concept of the ground, path and result, which must be explained on the basis of the disciplined or undisciplined mind. If we accept this argument, logically, we would also have to accept that the world and its inhabitants come about without causes and conditions. Therefore, as long as you are a Buddhist, it is necessary to accept past and future rebirth.

For those who remember their past lives, rebirth is a clear experience. However, most ordinary beings forget their past lives as they go through the process of death, intermediate state and rebirth. As past and future rebirths are slightly obscure to them, we need to use evidence-based logic to prove past and future rebirths to them.
 
There are many different logical arguments given in the words of the Buddha and subsequent commentaries to prove the existence of past and future lives. In brief, they come down to four points: the logic that things are preceded by things of a similar type, the logic that things are preceded by a substantial cause, the logic that the mind has gained familiarity with things in the past, and the logic of having gained experience of things in the past.

Ultimately all these arguments are based on the idea that the nature of the mind, its clarity and awareness, must have clarity and awareness as its substantial cause. It cannot have any other entity such as an inanimate object as its substantial cause. This is self-evident. Through logical analysis we infer that a new stream of clarity and awareness cannot come about without causes or from unrelated causes. While we observe that mind cannot be produced in a laboratory, we also infer that nothing can eliminate the continuity of subtle clarity and awareness.

As far as I know, no modern psychologist, physicist, or neuroscientist has been able to observe or predict the production of mind either from matter or without cause.

There are people who can remember their immediate past life or even many past lives, as well as being able to recognise places and relatives from those lives. This is not just something that happened in the past. Even today there are many people in the East and West, who can recall incidents and experiences from their past lives. Denying this is not an honest and impartial way of doing research, because it runs counter to this evidence. The Tibetan system of recognising reincarnations is an authentic mode of investigation based on people’s recollection of their past lives.

How rebirth takes place


There are two ways in which someone can take rebirth after death: rebirth under the sway of karma and destructive emotions and rebirth through the power of compassion and prayer. Regarding the first, due to ignorance negative and positive karma are created and their imprints remain on the consciousness. These are reactivated through craving and grasping, propelling us into the next life. We then take rebirth involuntarily in higher or lower realms. This is the way ordinary beings circle incessantly through existence like the turning of a wheel. Even under such circumstances ordinary beings can engage diligently with a positive aspiration in virtuous practices in their day-to-day lives. They familiarise themselves with virtue that at the time of death can be reactivated providing the means for them to take rebirth in a higher realm of existence. On the other hand, superior Bodhisattvas, who have attained the path of seeing, are not reborn through the force of their karma and destructive emotions, but due to the power of their compassion for sentient beings and based on their prayers to benefit others. They are able to choose their place and time of birth as well as their future parents. Such a rebirth, which is solely for the benefit of others, is rebirth through the force of compassion and prayer.

The meaning of Tulku

It seems the Tibetan custom of applying the epithet ‘Tulku’ (Buddha’s Emanation Body) to recognized reincarnations began when devotees used it as an honorary title, but it has since become a common expression. In general, the term Tulku refers to a particular aspect of the Buddha, one of the three or four described in the Sutra Vehicle. According to this explanation of these aspects of the Buddha, a person who is totally bound by destructive emotions and karma has the potential to achieve the Truth Body (Dharmakaya), comprising the Wisdom Truth Body and Nature Truth Body. The former refers to the enlightened mind of a Buddha, which sees everything directly and precisely, as it is, in an instant. It has been cleared of all destructive emotions, as well as their imprints, through the accumulation of merit and wisdom over a long period of time. The latter, the Nature Truth Body, refers to the empty nature of that all-knowing enlightened mind. These two together are aspects of the Buddhas for themselves. However, as they are not directly accessible to others, but only amongst the Buddhas themselves, it is imperative that the Buddhas manifest in physical forms that are accessible to sentient beings in order to help them. Hence, the ultimate physical aspect of a Buddha is the Body of Complete Enjoyment (Sambhogakaya), which is accessible to superior Bodhisattvas, and has five definite qualifications such as residing in the Akanishta Heaven. And from the Body of Complete Enjoyment are manifested the myriad Emanation Bodies or Tulkus (Nirmanakaya), of the Buddhas, which appear as gods or humans and are accessible even to ordinary beings. These two physical aspects of the Buddha are termed Form Bodies, which are meant for others.

The Emanation Body is three-fold: a) the Supreme Emanation Body like Shakyamuni Buddha, the historical Buddha, who manifested the twelve deeds of a Buddha such as being born in the place he chose and so forth; b) the Artistic Emanation Body which serves others by appearing as craftsmen, artists and so on; and c) the Incarnate Emanation Body, according to which Buddhas appear in various forms such as human beings, deities, rivers, bridges, medicinal plants, and trees to help sentient beings. Of these three types of Emanation Body, the reincarnations of spiritual masters recognized and known as ‘Tulkus’ in Tibet come under the third category. Among these Tulkus there may be many who are truly qualified Incarnate Emanation Bodies of the Buddhas, but this does not necessarily apply to all of them. Amongst the Tulkus of Tibet there may be those who are reincarnations of superior Bodhisattvas, Bodhisattvas on the paths of accumulation and preparation, as well as masters who are evidently yet to enter these Bodhisattva paths. Therefore, the title of Tulku is given to reincarnate Lamas either on the grounds of their resembling enlightened beings or through their connection to certain qualities of enlightened beings.

As Jamyang Khyentse Wangpo said:

“Reincarnation is what happens when someone takes rebirth after the predecessor’s passing away; emanation is when manifestations take place without the source’s passing away.”

Recognition of Reincarnations

The practice of recognizing who is who by identifying someone’s previous life occurred even when Shakyamuni Buddha himself was alive. Many accounts are found in the four Agama Sections of the Vinaya Pitaka, the Jataka Stories, the Sutra of the Wise and Foolish, the Sutra of One Hundred Karmas and so on, in which the Tathagata revealed the workings of karma, recounting innumerable stories about how the effects of certain karmas created in a past life are experienced by a person in his or her present life. Also, in the life stories of Indian masters, who lived after the Buddha, many reveal their previous places of birth. There are many such stories, but the system of recognizing and numbering their reincarnations did not occur in India.

The system of recognizing reincarnations in Tibet

Past and future lives were asserted in the indigenous Tibetan Bon tradition before the arrival of Buddhism. And since the spread of Buddhism in Tibet, virtually all Tibetans have believed in past and future lives. Investigating the reincarnations of many spiritual masters who upheld the Dharma, as well as the custom of praying devotedly to them, flourished everywhere in Tibet. Many authentic scriptures, indigenous Tibetan books such as the Mani Kabum and the Fivefold Kathang Teachings and others like the The Books of Kadam Disciples and the Jewel Garland: Responses to Queries, which were recounted by the glorious, incomparable Indian master Dipankara Atisha in the 11th century in Tibet, tell stories of the reincarnations of Arya Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of compassion. However, the present tradition of formally recognizing the reincarnations of masters first began in the early 13th century with the recognition of Karmapa Pagshi as the reincarnation of Karmapa Dusum Khyenpa by his disciples in accordance with his prediction. Since then, there have been seventeen Karmapa incarnations over more than nine hundred years. Similarly, since the recognition of Kunga Sangmo as the reincarnation of Khandro Choekyi Dronme in the 15th century there have been more than ten incarnations of Samding Dorje Phagmo. So, among the Tulkus recognized in Tibet there are monastics and lay tantric practitioners, male and female. This system of recognizing the reincarnations gradually spread to other Tibetan Buddhist traditions, and Bon, in Tibet. Today, there are recognized Tulkus in all the Tibetan Buddhist traditions, the Sakya, Geluk, Kagyu and Nyingma, as well as Jonang and Bodong, who serve the Dharma. It is also evident that amongst these Tulkus some are a disgrace.

The omniscient Gedun Drub, who was a direct disciple of Je Tsongkhapa, founded Tashi Lhunpo Monastery in Tsang and took care of his students. He passed away in 1474 at the age of 84. Although initially no efforts were made to identify his reincarnation, people were obliged to recognize a child named Sangye Chophel, who had been born in Tanak, Tsang (1476), because of what he had to say about his amazing and flawless recollections of his past life. Since then, a tradition began of searching for and recognizing the successive reincarnations of the Dalai Lamas by the Gaden Phodrang Labrang and later the Gaden Phodrang Government.

The ways of recognizing reincarnations

After the system of recognizing Tulkus came into being, various procedures for going about it began to develop and grow. Among these some of the most important involve the predecessor’s predictive letter and other instructions and indications that might occur; the reincarnation’s reliably recounting his previous life and speaking about it; identifying possessions belonging to the predecessor and recognizing people who had been close to him. Apart from these, additional methods include asking reliable spiritual masters for their divination as well as seeking the predictions of mundane oracles, who appear through mediums in trance, and observing the visions that manifest in sacred lakes of protectors like Lhamoi Latso, a sacred lake south of Lhasa.

When there happens to be more than one prospective candidate for recognition as a Tulku, and it becomes difficult to decide, there is a practice of making the final decision by divination employing the dough-ball method (zen tak) before a sacred image while calling upon the power of truth.

Emanation before the passing away of the predecessor (ma-dhey tulku)

Usually a reincarnation has to be someone’s taking rebirth as a human being after previously passing away. Ordinary sentient beings generally cannot manifest an emanation before death (ma-dhey tulku), but superior Bodhisattvas, who can manifest themselves in hundreds or thousands of bodies simultaneously, can manifest an emanation before death. Within the Tibetan system of recognizing Tulkus there are emanations who belong to the same mind-stream as the predecessor, emanations who are connected to others through the power of karma and prayers, and emanations who come as a result of blessings and appointment.

The main purpose of the appearance of a reincarnation is to continue the predecessor’s unfinished work to serve Dharma and beings. In the case of a Lama who is an ordinary being, instead of having a reincarnation belonging to the same mind-stream, someone else with connections to that Lama through pure karma and prayers may be recognized as his or her emanation. Alternatively it is possible for the Lama to appoint a successor who is either his disciple or someone young who is to be recognized as his emanation. Since these options are possible in the case of an ordinary being, an emanation before death that is not of the same mind-stream is feasible. In some cases one high Lama may have several reincarnations simultaneously, such as incarnations of body, speech and mind and so on. In recent times, there have been well-known emanations before death such as Dudjom Jigdral Yeshe Dorje and Chogye Trichen Ngawang Khyenrab.

Using the Golden Urn

As the degenerate age gets worse, and as more reincarnations of high Lamas are being recognized, some of them for political motives, increasing numbers have been recognized through inappropriate and questionable means, as a result of which huge damage has been done to the Dharma.

During the conflict between Tibet and the Gurkhas (1791-93) the Tibetan Government had to call on Manchu military support. Consequently the Gurkha military was expelled from Tibet, but afterwards Manchu officials made a 29-point proposal on the pretext of making the Tibetan Government’s administration more efficient. This proposal included the suggestion of picking lots from a Golden Urn to decide on the recognition of the reincarnations of the Dalai Lamas, Panchen Lamas and Hutuktus, a Mongolian title given to high Lamas. Therefore, this procedure was followed in the case of recognizing some reincarnations of the Dalai Lama, Panchen Lama and other high Lamas. The ritual to be followed was written by the Eighth Dalai Lama Jampel Gyatso.  Even after such a system had been introduced, this procedure was dispensed with for the Ninth, Thirteenth and myself, the Fourteenth Dalai Lama.

Even in the case of the Tenth Dalai Lama, the authentic reincarnation had already been found and in reality this procedure was not followed, but in order to humour the Manchus it was merely announced that this procedure had been observed.

The Golden Urn system was actually used only in the cases of the Eleventh and Twelfth Dalai Lamas. However, the Twelfth Dalai Lama had already been recognized before the procedure was employed. Therefore, there has only been one occasion when a Dalai Lama was recognized by using this method. Likewise, among the reincarnations of the Panchen Lama, apart from the Eighth and the Ninth, there have been no instances of this method being employed. This system was imposed by the Manchus, but Tibetans had no faith in it because it lacked any spiritual quality. However, if it were to be used honestly, it seems that we could consider it as similar to the manner of divination employing the dough-ball method (zen tak).

In 1880, during the recognition of the Thirteenth Dalai Lama as the reincarnation of the Twelfth, traces of the Priest-Patron relationship between Tibet and the Manchus still existed. He was recognized as the unmistaken reincarnation by the Eighth Panchen Lama, the predictions of the Nechung and Samye oracles and by observing visions that appeared in Lhamoi Latso, therefore the Golden Urn procedure was not followed. This can be clearly understood from the Thirteenth Dalai Lama’s final testament of the Water-Monkey Year (1933) in which he states:

“As you all know, I was selected not in the customary way of picking lots from the golden urn, but my selection was foretold and divined. In accordance with these divinations and prophecies I was recognized as the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama and enthroned.”

When I was recognized as the Fourteenth incarnation of the Dalai Lama in 1939, the Priest-Patron relationship between Tibet and China had already come to an end. Therefore, there was no question of any need to confirm the reincarnation by employing the Golden Urn. It is well-known that the then Regent of Tibet and the Tibetan National Assembly had followed the procedure for recognizing the Dalai Lama’s reincarnation taking account of the predictions of high Lamas, oracles and the visions seen in Lhamoi Latso; the Chinese had no involvement in it whatever. Nevertheless, some concerned officials of the Guomintang later cunningly spread lies in the newspapers claiming that they had agreed to forego the use of the Golden Urn and that Wu Chung-tsin presided over my enthronement, and so on. This lie  was exposed by Ngabo Ngawang Jigme, the Vice-Chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress, who the People’s Republic of China considered to be a most progressive person, at the Second Session of the Fifth People’s Congress of the Tibet Autonomous Region (31st July 1989). This is clear, when, at the end of his speech, in which he gave a detailed explanation of events and presented documentary evidence, he demanded:

“What need is there for the Communist Party to follow suit and continue the lies of the Guomintang?”

Deceptive strategy and false hopes

In the recent past, there have been cases of irresponsible managers of wealthy Lama-estates who indulged in improper methods to recognize reincarnations, which have undermined the Dharma, the monastic community and our society. Moreover, since the Manchu era Chinese political authorities repeatedly engaged in various deceitful means using Buddhism, Buddhist masters and Tulkus as tools to fulfil their political ends as they involved themselves in Tibetan and Mongolian affairs. Today, the authoritarian rulers of the People’s Republic of China, who as communists reject religion, but still involve themselves in religious affairs, have imposed a so-called re-education campaign and declared the so-called Order No. Five, concerning the control and recognition of reincarnations, which came into force on 1st September 2007. This is outrageous and disgraceful. The enforcement of various inappropriate methods for recognizing reincarnations to eradicate our unique Tibetan cultural traditions is doing damage that will be difficult to repair.

Moreover, they say they are waiting for my death and will recognize a Fifteenth Dalai Lama of their choice. It is clear from their recent rules and regulations and subsequent declarations that they have a detailed strategy to deceive Tibetans, followers of the Tibetan Buddhist tradition and the world community. Therefore, as I have a responsibility to protect the Dharma and sentient beings and counter such detrimental schemes, I make the following declaration.

The next incarnation of the Dalai Lama

As I mentioned earlier, reincarnation is a phenomenon which should take place either through the voluntary choice of the concerned person or at least on the strength of his or her karma, merit and prayers. Therefore, the person who reincarnates has sole legitimate authority over where and how he or she takes rebirth and how that reincarnation is to be recognized. It is a reality that no one else can force the person concerned, or manipulate him or her. It is particularly inappropriate for Chinese communists, who explicitly reject even the idea of past and future lives, let alone the concept of reincarnate Tulkus, to meddle in the system of reincarnation and especially the reincarnations of the Dalai Lamas and Panchen Lamas. Such brazen meddling contradicts their own political ideology and reveals their double standards. Should this situation continue in the future, it will be impossible for Tibetans and those who follow the Tibetan Buddhist tradition to acknowledge or accept it.

When I am about ninety I will consult the high Lamas of the Tibetan Buddhist traditions, the Tibetan public, and other concerned people who follow Tibetan Buddhism, and re-evaluate whether the institution of the Dalai Lama should continue or not. On that basis we will take a decision. If it is decided that the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama should continue and there is a need for the Fifteenth Dalai Lama to be recognized, responsibility for doing so will primarily rest on the concerned officers of the Dalai Lama’s Gaden Phodrang Trust. They should consult the various heads of the Tibetan Buddhist traditions and the reliable oath-bound Dharma Protectors who are linked inseparably to the lineage of the Dalai Lamas. They should seek advice and direction from these concerned beings and carry out the procedures of search and recognition in accordance with past tradition. I shall leave clear written instructions about this. Bear in mind that, apart from the reincarnation recognized through such legitimate methods, no recognition or acceptance should be given to a candidate chosen for political ends by anyone, including those in the People’s Republic of China.


The Dalai Lama
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(Translated from the Tibetan)
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Re: Dalai Lama to decide on his reincarnation
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 10:56:47 AM »
Source :  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204010604576594773469510608.html

Sept 27

BEIJING—Two Tibetan monks in southwestern China set themselves on fire, the government and Tibetan freedom activists said, the latest in a spate of such self-immolations that the campaigners said represented an unprecedented escalation of protests over curbs on religious freedom.

China's state-run Xinhua news agency said the two monks were in stable condition after being "rescued" by police on Monday morning. The London-based Free Tibet group said their condition and whereabouts were unclear.

China's Foreign Ministry on Monday also rejected a weekend statement from the Dalai Lama in which the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, who is now 76 years old, suggested a decision on his successor would be made when he was "about 90,
" and argued that Beijing should play no role in selecting his reincarnation.

The Chinese government, which says Tibet has been part of its territory for centuries and claims the right to approve all new lamas, has long tried to suppress Tibetans' loyalty to the Dalai Lama, who fled his mostly Buddhist homeland in 1959 after an abortive uprising against Chinese rule.

While Beijing has broughtmassive improvements in infrastructure and basic living standards to Tibet, it has made little progress in discouraging reverence for the leader of Tibetan Buddhism, or in preventing regular protests against restrictions on cultural and religious freedom.

Self-immolations are rare among Tibetans, though, and represent a new challenge for a government whose policies toward ethnic minorities were shaken by rioting against ethnic Han Chinese across Tibet in 2008, and by similar unrest in the neighboring northwestern region of Xinjiang the following year.

Xinhua, one of the main government mouthpieces, said the two monks were rescued by police shortly after they set fire to themselves in Aba prefecture in the southwestern province of Sichuan. They were given prompt medical treatment, it said, and were suffering from "slight burns."

"The suicide attempt is under further investigation," Xinhua said, without identifying the monks or their monastery or giving further details.

Local officials said they were unaware of the incident.

Free Tibet named the monks as Lobsang Kalsang and Lobsang Konchok, saying they were both aged 18 or 19, and both from Kirti Monastery, one of the largest monasteries in the region and the site of frequent unrest in the past three years.

"The monks called for religious freedom and 'long live the Dalai Lama' before they self-immolated," Free Tibet said in a statement.

The group also said that one of the monks is the brother of another 21-year-old monk at Kirti Monastery called Rigzin Phuntsog, who died after setting fire to himself in March. Chinese authorities have deployed paramilitary police around the monastery and prevented monks from conducting large-scale religious activities since, according to Free Tibet and other activist groups.

Another 29-year-old Tibetan monk called Tsewang Norbu died in August after setting fire to himself in Tawu, site of another monastery about 100 miles away, according to activist groups.

"This is now the fourth act of self-immolation in six months, an unprecedented trend, underlining the growing desperation among some young Tibetans," said Free Tibet Director Stephanie Brigden. "It is impossible to confirm what prompted this act of protest, but it is believed to be in response to mounting pressure on the monastic community at Kirti Monastery and Phuntsog's family members."

Ms. Brigden said that in the past few weeks, six monks, including an uncle and brother of Phuntsog, had been sentenced for their alleged involvement in his self-immolation.

Chinese state media reported late last month that three Tibetan monks had been given jail sentences of 10, 11 and 13 years for "intentional homicide" after being convicted of helping Phuntsog to set himself on fire.

The latest self-immolations came two days after the Dalai Lama released a statement saying he would consult Buddhist scholars when he was "about 90" to evaluate whether the institution of the Dalai Lama should continue.

If it was to be continued, then he would follow Tibetan Buddhist traditions, which he said allowed him either to be reincarnated after his death, or to choose his own successor while he was still alive. "I shall leave clear written instructions about this," he said. "Bear in mind that, apart from the reincarnation recognized through such legitimate methods, no recognition or acceptance should be given to a candidate chosen for political ends by anyone, including those in the People's Republic of China."

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei responded at a daily news conference by accusing the Dalai Lama of "distorting and denying" history. He insisted that the title of the Dalai Lama was traditionally conferred by Beijing and was otherwise illegal.

"There has never been a practice of the Dalai Lama identifying his own successor," Mr. Hong said.

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Re: Dalai Lama to decide on his reincarnation
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Source :  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204010604576594773469510608.html

Sept 27

BEIJING—Two Tibetan monks in southwestern China set themselves on fire, the government and Tibetan freedom activists said, the latest in a spate of such self-immolations that the campaigners said represented an unprecedented escalation of protests over curbs on religious freedom.

China's state-run Xinhua news agency said the two monks were in stable condition after being "rescued" by police on Monday morning. The London-based Free Tibet group said their condition and whereabouts were unclear.

China's Foreign Ministry on Monday also rejected a weekend statement from the Dalai Lama in which the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, who is now 76 years old, suggested a decision on his successor would be made when he was "about 90,
" and argued that Beijing should play no role in selecting his reincarnation.

The Chinese government, which says Tibet has been part of its territory for centuries and claims the right to approve all new lamas, has long tried to suppress Tibetans' loyalty to the Dalai Lama, who fled his mostly Buddhist homeland in 1959 after an abortive uprising against Chinese rule.

While Beijing has broughtmassive improvements in infrastructure and basic living standards to Tibet, it has made little progress in discouraging reverence for the leader of Tibetan Buddhism, or in preventing regular protests against restrictions on cultural and religious freedom.

Self-immolations are rare among Tibetans, though, and represent a new challenge for a government whose policies toward ethnic minorities were shaken by rioting against ethnic Han Chinese across Tibet in 2008, and by similar unrest in the neighboring northwestern region of Xinjiang the following year.

Xinhua, one of the main government mouthpieces, said the two monks were rescued by police shortly after they set fire to themselves in Aba prefecture in the southwestern province of Sichuan. They were given prompt medical treatment, it said, and were suffering from "slight burns."

"The suicide attempt is under further investigation," Xinhua said, without identifying the monks or their monastery or giving further details.

Local officials said they were unaware of the incident.

Free Tibet named the monks as Lobsang Kalsang and Lobsang Konchok, saying they were both aged 18 or 19, and both from Kirti Monastery, one of the largest monasteries in the region and the site of frequent unrest in the past three years.

"The monks called for religious freedom and 'long live the Dalai Lama' before they self-immolated," Free Tibet said in a statement.

The group also said that one of the monks is the brother of another 21-year-old monk at Kirti Monastery called Rigzin Phuntsog, who died after setting fire to himself in March. Chinese authorities have deployed paramilitary police around the monastery and prevented monks from conducting large-scale religious activities since, according to Free Tibet and other activist groups.

Another 29-year-old Tibetan monk called Tsewang Norbu died in August after setting fire to himself in Tawu, site of another monastery about 100 miles away, according to activist groups.

"This is now the fourth act of self-immolation in six months, an unprecedented trend, underlining the growing desperation among some young Tibetans," said Free Tibet Director Stephanie Brigden. "It is impossible to confirm what prompted this act of protest, but it is believed to be in response to mounting pressure on the monastic community at Kirti Monastery and Phuntsog's family members."

Ms. Brigden said that in the past few weeks, six monks, including an uncle and brother of Phuntsog, had been sentenced for their alleged involvement in his self-immolation.

Chinese state media reported late last month that three Tibetan monks had been given jail sentences of 10, 11 and 13 years for "intentional homicide" after being convicted of helping Phuntsog to set himself on fire.

The latest self-immolations came two days after the Dalai Lama released a statement saying he would consult Buddhist scholars when he was "about 90" to evaluate whether the institution of the Dalai Lama should continue.

If it was to be continued, then he would follow Tibetan Buddhist traditions, which he said allowed him either to be reincarnated after his death, or to choose his own successor while he was still alive. "I shall leave clear written instructions about this," he said. "Bear in mind that, apart from the reincarnation recognized through such legitimate methods, no recognition or acceptance should be given to a candidate chosen for political ends by anyone, including those in the People's Republic of China."

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei responded at a daily news conference by accusing the Dalai Lama of "distorting and denying" history. He insisted that the title of the Dalai Lama was traditionally conferred by Beijing and was otherwise illegal.

"There has never been a practice of the Dalai Lama identifying his own successor," Mr. Hong said.



The Chinese government are taking no stops to seize control of the powerful Dalai Lama figurehead. I think eventually the Dalai Lama would have to emanate someone to be the Chinese puppet secretly anyway because the Chinese will have their way eventually. Openly, the Dalai Lama will be recognize as someone else or not recognized at all. This scenario would be similar to the Panchen Lama and the Karmapa Lama. It would be fascinating to see what will happen next. The Lamas will always have the last laugh and somehow bring tremendous benefit at the same time. Whatever it is, I just hope that the ban on Dorje Shugden will be dissolved ASAP and if we are lucky even before the Dalai Lama passes on.