His Holiness the Dalai Lama Commences Teachings to Korean Guests

[DharmaDefender]

His Holiness the Dalai Lama has just begun teachings in Dharamsala for a group of Koreans. His Holiness is speaking on Nagarjuna's Fundamental Treatise of the Middle Way and, according to the article below, he is also speaking about the universality of human beings... but Im left wondering if that statement applies to Dorje Shugden worshippers too...

What I find interesting is this statement:

Drawing upon scientific research, His Holiness highlighted that 90% of the negative feeling towards the person or object is projected by the individual.

So does that mean that the anger anti-Shugden worshippers experience against us, is not because of us but because of themselves? So... theres nothing wrong with us, but... something wrong with them?

Anyway, without further ado...

Source: http://www.thetibetpost.com/en/news/international/2976-his-holiness-the-dalai-lama-commences-teachings-to-korean-guests

Dharamshala: Commencing the first of three days of teachings to a group of Korean disciples, His Holiness the Dalai Lama of Tibet introduced Chapter 24 of ‘Nagarjuna's Fundamental Treatise of the Middle Way’ on October 29th 2012 in the Main Temple, Dharamshala, India.

The Korean guests, which numbered almost 1000,were treated to clear skies upon their visit to the Tibetan exile community; nestled scenically in the foothills of the Himalayas. Warmly addressing the audience, which was filled with a mixture of Tibetans adorning colourful traditional garments (chubas), international tourists from 62 different countries, monks, nuns and almost 200 Indian guests, His Holiness the Dalai Lama opened by giving an insightful introduction into Buddhism itself.

The revered spiritual leader highlighted key topics such as the need to develop peace of mind within oneself, the importance of non-violent action, and highlighted the commonalities that we all share, stating:

“We must acknowledge the sameness of human beings”.

His Holiness also addressed key Buddhist teaching frameworks, such as the Four Noble Truths, adding that one must not take His teachings for granted, but to logically question and test what is taught with reason. He added:

“Texts need to be studied; not simply kept on an altar. Although we can use Buddhist texts as objects of veneration, we must examine the subject matter of Buddhism through reason and logic”.

An emphasis was also made by His Holiness for followers to not simply to avoid violent actions and negative emotions, but to actively develop and foster a positive, altruistic approach to life. He highlighted the nature of interdependency; the notion of Dependent Origination being unique to Buddhism as a religion, and the manner of cause and effect when studied carefully and critically.

An insight into the nature of attachment was also made by His Holiness, who conveyed:

“When you see a beautiful thing, you can become attached to it. When you see something ugly, aversion can occur. It is not only the subject, but you, who finds things the way they are. One creates attachment and aversion themselves”.

Additionally, He added that when you experience anger, it is not simply the object or the person creating the majority of the negative emotion; rather it is created within oneself. Drawing upon scientific research, His Holiness highlighted that 90% of the negative feeling towards the person or object is projected by the individual.

Amid generous helpings of Tibetan tea served by the resident monks, and amid a buoyant atmosphere, His Holiness drew the afternoon session to a close by introducing the text: Chapter 24 of Nagarjuna's Fundamental Treatise of the Middle Way. Nagarjuna who lived between 150 and 250 CE, was an important Buddhist philosopher and teacher, credited with founding the Madhyamaka School Buddhism and developing the ‘Two Truths’ doctrine.

His Holiness expressed His happiness to the Korean guests that He was able to teach Nagarjuna's Fundamental Treatise of the Middle Way, adding that it was a treasure to have the text in the form of both its Korean Tibetan translations. Having thoroughly educated and enthralled the audience, His Holiness drew the teachings to a close at 3pm, ready for the following day.

The teachings on Nagarjuna's Fundamental Treatise of the Middle Way will continue on October 30th in the Main Temple, Dharamshala. A live webcast of the event is available from Tibetan to Korean, English, Chinese and Russian at: dalailama.com/liveweb.

[vajratruth]

The very treatise of Nagajurna's Middle Way that His Holiness The Dalai Lama is teaching the Korean guests is the very treasure that Dorje Shugden has sworn to protect. How ironic that the Dalai Lama recognizes the preciousness of the teaching and not its protector, Dorje Shugden.

Nagajurna's Madhyamika Way was so perfectly taught by Je Tsongkhapa that Nechung appeared before Duldzin Drakpa to ask him to arise as an Uncommon Protector to protect the teachings. Later when Duldzin reincarnated as Tulku Drakpa, Nechung again reminded him of the oath and when Tulku Drakpa was murdered, Dorje Shugden arose to fulfill the promise. That the Dalai Lama is able to elucidate Nagajurna's treatise to the Korean disciples is indication that Dorje Shugden has been upholding the promise to protect the teachings.

Surely the Dalai Lama must know that the Nagajurna's Treatise cannot be disassociated from Dorje Shugden as the role of Dorje Shugden vis-a-vis the Teaching is well known. By drawing attention to Nagajurna's Treatise, could the Dalai Lama also be asking people as to enquire deeper as to why such an important Protector of a great treasure could be banned by the Dalai Lama? The Dalai Lama has never once denied how Dorje Shugden came about and neither has the Dalai Lama denied the importance of Dorje Shugden's role as an Uncommon Protector. One thing the Dalai Lama has consistently stressed is that students and practitioners are not to accept whatever he says blindly but investigate thoroughly, to uncover the truth behind everything.

[dondrup]

So does that mean that the anger anti-Shugden worshippers experience against us, is not because of us but because of themselves? So... theres nothing wrong with us, but... something wrong with them?]

How we perceive and project our views on others is determined by our past conditionings.  Countless past lives’ habituations had moulded how we perceive every phenomenon as it unfolds before us now.  The balance 10% contributing to our projection are the conditions surrounding the phenomenon in question.

Why are the anti-shugden worshippers against us?  One explanation is using the wrong projection above.  The other is that they have wrong views about Dorje Shugden. 

[lotus1]

From the treatise of Nagajurna’s Middle Way by taught by HHDL, it is clearly that there is equanimity and compassions and all beings are equal.  Highlighted key topics such as the needs to develop peace of mind within oneself, the importance of non-violent action, and highlight the commonalities that we all share. So, it is just not make sense that Dorje Shugden practitioners should be treated badly and being denied! I believe HHDL is a high beings emanation of Chenrezig.

He taught that “We must acknowledge the sameness of human beings”. I hope CTA would see this phrase, contemplate and put this into practice and treat all Dorje Shugden practitioners equally and with humanity.

[biggyboy]

Surely the Dalai Lama must know that the Nagajurna's Treatise cannot be disassociated from Dorje Shugden as the role of Dorje Shugden vis-a-vis the Teaching is well known. By drawing attention to Nagajurna's Treatise, could the Dalai Lama also be asking people as to enquire deeper as to why such an important Protector of a great treasure could be banned by the Dalai Lama? The Dalai Lama has never once denied how Dorje Shugden came about and neither has the Dalai Lama denied the importance of Dorje Shugden's role as an Uncommon Protector. One thing the Dalai Lama has consistently stressed is that students and practitioners are not to accept whatever he says blindly but investigate thoroughly, to uncover the truth behind everything.

I truly agrees with vajratruth on this for every person should contemplate deeper and not take it on the superficial side of it.  If His Holiness Dalai Lama, the emanation of Avalokiteshvara, shouldn't one not base on as it is situation and jumped onto it to react against DS practitioners?  How one perceive and react is mainly base on one's limited understanding and knowledge.  Neither would one wanting to look on the wider perspective for the benefits that would bring upon.  It is important do not being fooled by appearances but rather to seek the truth. 

http://fpmtabc.org/download/teaching/ven-george/Emptiness/21335761-XIV-Dalai-Lama-The-Key-to-the-Middle-Way-on-Emptiness%5B1%5D.pdf
It is all about the mind. We all want happiness and do not want suffering. Moreover, achieving happiness and eliminating suffering depend upon the deeds of body, speech and mind. As the deeds of body and speech depend upon the mind, we must therefore constructively transform the mind. The ways of constructively transforming the mind are to cause mistaken states of consciousness not to be generated and good states of consciousness to be both generated and increased.

On second note, look how and what HHDL is doing nowadays?  Isn't it obvious that HHDL is moving on towards the Mahayanist where Nagarjuna's Fundamental Treatise of the Middle Way’ plays an important part in their studies? 

Nagarjuna who lived in South India in approximately the first century CE, is undoubtedly the most important, influential, and widely studied Mahayana Buddhist philosopher. His many works include texts addressed to lay audiences, letters of advice to kings, and a set of penetrating metaphysical and epistemological treatises. His greatest philosophical work, the Mulamadhyamikakarika--read and studied by philosophers in all major Buddhist schools of Tibet, China, Japan, and Korea--is one of the most influential works in the history of Indian philosophy.

[DharmaSpace]

Whatever projection people have does it lead them to benefit or more disaster and negativity that is important.

If the projection leads to to threaten monk's lives and other fellow human beings life then that projection is a negative one. The results of something negative has to come from a negative cause, we cannot have negative results arising from a positive cause.

[Big Uncle]

Well, I think we all understand that the Dalai Lama's teachings at times seems to contradict his sole action to ban Dorje Shugden. We have gone through all possible variations of what a contradiction it is. Perhaps, we should start exploring other possible reasons the Dalai Lama has for doing this and/or other implications of the ban.

In fact, I think it would be nice to start speculating how the ban will eventually be dissolved. Personally, I think the ban can be dissolved in a variety of ways, one of which is that the secular Tibetan administration decides to call of any religious edits and prioritize all secular matters. However, nothing of that sort is happening.

[Ensapa]

His Holiness the Dalai Lama has just begun teachings in Dharamsala for a group of Koreans. His Holiness is speaking on Nagarjuna's Fundamental Treatise of the Middle Way and, according to the article below, he is also speaking about the universality of human beings... but Im left wondering if that statement applies to Dorje Shugden worshippers too...

What I find interesting is this statement:

Drawing upon scientific research, His Holiness highlighted that 90% of the negative feeling towards the person or object is projected by the individual.

So does that mean that the anger anti-Shugden worshippers experience against us, is not because of us but because of themselves? So... theres nothing wrong with us, but... something wrong with them?

It does mean that the hatred towards Dorje Shugden does not come from Dorje Shugden but from the side of the people who say that he is wrong or a ghost or something. More subtle indications from the Dalai Lama that he is on Dorje Shugden's side, if you ask me because why would he say something like that and then uphold the ban on the other side? Does not make sense at all. Even ordinary people or politicians know how and what is it to portray a consistent image for everything and everyone so that they do not say or do something that would be contradictory to what they say, especially someone like the Dalai Lama. So I do take this as a hint as it is very obviously one.

It's a very nice thing to read as a shugdenpa of the Dalai Lama's hints that he leaves here and there.