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In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« on: February 04, 2013, 10:38:15 AM »
I found this article very interesting and as far as I can see, nobody has posted it yet. It does have a lot of interesting interesting points about the Karmapa situation. In a way, it has similar parallels to the Dorje Shugden controversy as quite a number of articles on the site had already mentioned it. :-

In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope

<< Anjani Trivedi for The New York Times
The inner courtyard at Rumtek monastery in Sikkim.


By ANJANI TRIVEDI, The New York Times, January 21, 2013
RUMTEK, Sikkim (India) -- In their 13th year of waiting for their spiritual leader, the Tibetan Buddhist monks at a mountainside monastery in Sikkim are starting to give up hope.

“Our hearts have fallen - the master isn’t coming,” said Karma Yeshi, a monk and teacher at the Rumtek monastery, home to 150 monks in the Himalayas in the erstwhile kingdom annexed to India in 1975. “It’s like a house without a father.”

The person the monks are eager to see is Ogyen Trinley Dorje, the 27-year-old man deemed to be the leader of the Kagyu order of Buddhism, one of the four main schools in Tibetan Buddhism.

Tibetan Buddhism stresses the importance of meeting the Karmapa. Teachings in the Kagyu order are passed on from master to student, and the Kagyu’s Web site says that “all great Kagyu teachers regard his Holiness Karmapa as the embodiment and source of all the blessings of the lineage.”
The young man known as the 17th Karmapa is currently based in Dharamsala at the Gyuto Tantric University, having been granted official refugee status in 2001 after fleeing from Tibet in late December 1999. But since 2000, the Indian government has blocked the Karmapa from entering Rumtek and the state of Sikkim, citing security concerns.

To travel outside Dharamsala, the Karmapa needs prior approval from various government agencies and ministries, and he is given security once he does begin his travels, said a Home Ministry official, who asked to remain anonymous because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Rumtek is the most important seat of the Kagyu tradition outside the Tsurphu monastery in Tibet. Rumtek has also been the site of much controversy, as different factions have fought over who is the real Karmapa, or incarnate lama. At least two others have laid a claim to the title, but the Dalai Lama and China have officially backed Ogyen Trinley Dorje. The monastery’s valuable relics have also been the source of contention among two rival factions, leading to fistfights.

The gated monastery and community in Rumtek is more of an armed garrison, with India’s border forces patrolling it 24 hours a day, seven days a week. While some say the Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force, which also maintains vigil on the nearby India-China border, is guarding the treasure and symbols of authority at the monastery, others say the forces were placed there after clashes among the monks.

“This has lowered the morale among the monks and Buddhist community at large,” Karma Yeshi said.

The government has two concerns about letting the Karmapa travel: his security and the legal battle over ownership of the relics, according the official in the Home Ministry.

State officials say they believe that the national government thinks the Karmapa is a spy. “There is a strong feeling that he might be an agent of China,” said a state government official, who did not want to be identified because he is not authorized to speak publicly on the issue. “It’s very difficult to escape from China, as far as Tibetans are concerned.”

However, China, which does not recognize Sikkim as a part of India, has dismissed these claims by the Indian government.

In 2011, the Karmapa came under scrutiny by Indian police officials after trunks filled with foreign currency were discovered at his residence in Dharamsala, drawing even more suspicion from the government. The Karmapa’s lawyer said the money was donations from devotees from all over the world.

The Karmapa’s presence is a “very, very sensitive” issue that involves multiple ministries, including External Affairs, said the Home Ministry official, although he denied it had anything to do with security.

However, the official said, “He’s been living here, so it’s our duty to protect him. Rumtek being a controversial matter, it’s not in his interest to go there because there are other claimants. So it’s as simple as that.”

“The government of India has adopted a policy of refraining from any succession controversy. We are not favoring or supporting anyone. This policy has been consistent – it was the case 10 years ago and it is still the same,” he added.

Sikkim’s state government backs the Kagyu monks. Sikkim’s chief minister, Pawan Chamling, who has governed for 18 years, has appealed to Manmohan Singh, the prime minister of India, many times to allow the Karmapa to visit the state.

“The chief minister had taken up this matter when he last visited Delhi,” the state government official told India Ink. “At least, if you don’t allow him to visit Rumtek, his official seat, let him visit Sikkim and bless the people of Sikkim, who are great followers. Even that is not being done by the government of India.”

However, the Home Ministry doesn’t want to take a risk with his security, according to officials in the ministry, which deals largely with internal security matters. Ultimately, they say, the responsibility for his safety rests with the central government, and not the Sikkim government.

Karma Yeshi of the Rumtek monastery said that this issue is not just a local matter, as India is a place of pilgrimage for all Buddhists, masters and monks alike, as the birthplace of Buddhism.

“This is very important not only for the Karmapa issue but for Buddhism. The Buddha dharma is from India, from India it went to China, from China to Tibet – this is how the lineage came about,” the senior monk said.

The inability to meet the Karmapa is nothing less than a tragedy for these Tibetan Buddhists.

“We have been waiting for long enough now,” said Monay Rai, a 24-year-old guide at the monastery, who was born and raised inside the gates of the Rumtek community. “Sometimes when V.I.P.’s visit, the aged people tell me, ‘Please tell the V.I.P.’s to help us, to allow our guru. I can’t travel. It is my dream before I die to see the Karmapa here.’”
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Re: In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 10:45:54 AM »
It is sad that because of politics coming into the fray, a generation of monks will have waited in vain to meet the Kamarpa. These monks are waiting to meet  Ogyen Trinley Dorje, the person 'deemed' as the 17th Karmapa, leader of the Kagyu lineage. But Ogyen Trinley Dorje cannot go to the Rumtek Monastery for security reasons.

Behind all this is the contentious unresolved issue of the recognition of the 17th Karmapa. There are 2 other contenders for the position. Ogyen Trinley Dorje was, strangely speaking, backed by both the Dalai Lama and the Chinese Government. Orgyen Trinley Dorje is being suspected, by authorities in India, to be a spy  for China.This has also contributed to his being barred from going to Rumtek Monastery. I wonder why HH Dalai Lama was involved in the recognition of the head of another Lineage.
 

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Re: In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 10:26:55 AM »
Actually the article can lead to serious misconception of the Karmapa/Rumtek issue if one does not have all the facts. In it, one of the monks said:

 “Our hearts have fallen - the master isn’t coming,” said Karma Yeshi, a monk and teacher at the Rumtek monastery, home to 150 monks in the Himalayas in the erstwhile kingdom annexed to India in 1975. “It’s like a house without a father.”

Clearly Karma Yeshi is a monk from Tai Situ Rinpoche (one of the regents of the sect) and Karmapa Ogyen Trinley's camp. There is another camp with an alternative Karmapa that is the Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorjey who is supported by Shamar Rinppoche (the senior regent of the sect) and a large percentage of Karma Kagyus believe Thaye Dorje to be the legitimate 17th Karmapa.

Before the 16th Karmapa passed into clear light, he had established the Karmapa Charitable Trust under Shamar Rinpoche, to manage the affairs of the Karma Kagyu, including Rumtek Monastery. Things were going according to the 16th Karmapa intended plan until Tai Situ Rinpoche who is well known to have Chinese support sought and the received the help of a corrupt Sikkimese government to forcibly evict members of of the Trust and install their own people whom Karma Yeshi is clearly one. The "master" he refers to is Ogyen Trinley who by no account is accepted by all Karma Kagyus to be their legitimate master.

By Indian law, Karmapa Thaye Dorje is the lawful occupant of Rumtek Monastery which also bestows on him the legitimate title of the 17th Karmapa. However despite several court rulings, it is Tai Situ Rinpoche's people who still occupy Rumtek.

The Karmapa issue is far from over and this stand-off cannot be so easily resolved because instead of arbitrating the conflict the Dalai Lama and CTA took sides instead which they should not have, not least because they did not have jurisdiction in the matter, their support of Ogyen Trinley was the endorsement needed to legitimize Ogyen Trinley and condemned the the matter into an irreversible position waiting to explode and split the Tibetan Buddhist community again, after they have been divided by the Dorje Shugden ban.

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Re: In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 12:31:00 PM »
Actually the article can lead to serious misconception of the Karmapa/Rumtek issue if one does not have all the facts. In it, one of the monks said:

 “Our hearts have fallen - the master isn’t coming,” said Karma Yeshi, a monk and teacher at the Rumtek monastery, home to 150 monks in the Himalayas in the erstwhile kingdom annexed to India in 1975. “It’s like a house without a father.”

Clearly Karma Yeshi is a monk from Tai Situ Rinpoche (one of the regents of the sect) and Karmapa Ogyen Trinley's camp. There is another camp with an alternative Karmapa that is the Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorjey who is supported by Shamar Rinppoche (the senior regent of the sect) and a large percentage of Karma Kagyus believe Thaye Dorje to be the legitimate 17th Karmapa.

Before the 16th Karmapa passed into clear light, he had established the Karmapa Charitable Trust under Shamar Rinpoche, to manage the affairs of the Karma Kagyu, including Rumtek Monastery. Things were going according to the 16th Karmapa intended plan until Tai Situ Rinpoche who is well known to have Chinese support sought and the received the help of a corrupt Sikkimese government to forcibly evict members of of the Trust and install their own people whom Karma Yeshi is clearly one. The "master" he refers to is Ogyen Trinley who by no account is accepted by all Karma Kagyus to be their legitimate master.

By Indian law, Karmapa Thaye Dorje is the lawful occupant of Rumtek Monastery which also bestows on him the legitimate title of the 17th Karmapa. However despite several court rulings, it is Tai Situ Rinpoche's people who still occupy Rumtek.

The Karmapa issue is far from over and this stand-off cannot be so easily resolved because instead of arbitrating the conflict the Dalai Lama and CTA took sides instead which they should not have, not least because they did not have jurisdiction in the matter, their support of Ogyen Trinley was the endorsement needed to legitimize Ogyen Trinley and condemned the the matter into an irreversible position waiting to explode and split the Tibetan Buddhist community again, after they have been divided by the Dorje Shugden ban.

Dear Vajratruth,

Oh dear! Thank you for your excellent summary of the Karmapa debacle. I am just curious, how did you know that Karma Yeshi is from the Tai Situpa camp because it doesn't seem obvious to me. Is it because all the monks within Rumtek holds allegiance to Tai Situ Rinpoche and all other monks were evicted? I am just curious.

Anyway, the Karmapa incident has clearly reflected on the failure of the CTA - Central Tibetan Administration  to mediate this problem. This is rather serious and it doesn't look good for the administration and as India continues to be suspicious of Ogyen Trinley, I am sure this will backfire on the CTA as well. CTA had been asking the Indian government to support them in their cause, what did CTA do behind their back?

They endorse the Karmapa that clearly, the Indian views as a spy for China. In the eyes of the Indian government, the Tibetans had double-crossed them. Once again, without careful consideration of the repercussions of supporting either side. CTA has lost an ally for its cause to gain independence. I am wondering if the CTA is even aware of how often they shoot themselves in the foot.

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Re: In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 06:10:08 PM »
I think this issue has again, brought up one thing: CTA's inability to even protect their own people. Tai Situpa is very strongly supported by both the Dalai Lama and the CTA. Now that Tai Situpa has legal problems again, CTA is quiet about it and not helping him at all when CTA should have done more to save Rumtek and Tai Situpa. What Vajratruth said is right: the CTA should not have taken sides in the Karmapa issue because it will only cause more confusion and problems for the followers. Maybe you can say it's the bad karma of the followers, or perhaps....CTA is just not good at protecting the Dharma or their own people if there isnt a political gain from it.

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Re: In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2013, 08:42:06 AM »
It is indeed very sad to know that lamas (even high lamas) are not allowed to travel to places freely to spread Dharma, and all the politics are getting into the way. I seriously wonder what security issue they are talking about :(

If there is really a security issue, that means there are people who created the hatred? May be it is time for CTA to stop spreading hatred and start promote compassion and love to all sentient beings...

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Re: In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2013, 07:18:45 AM »
It is indeed very sad to know that lamas (even high lamas) are not allowed to travel to places freely to spread Dharma, and all the politics are getting into the way. I seriously wonder what security issue they are talking about :(

If there is really a security issue, that means there are people who created the hatred? May be it is time for CTA to stop spreading hatred and start promote compassion and love to all sentient beings...

Personally, the CTA should really do something and defend Tai Situpa as he is on their side after all. Their silence over this isnt something that makes CTA look good at all because it shows that CTA will only look after their interests and not anyone else. In the past, Tai Situpa was instrumental in helping Orgyen Trinley be the Karmapa, but now since Orgyen Trinely has already been established and Tai Situpa is of no use to the CTA, they dont help him at all or give him a good word or two to the Indian government so that his freedom is restored.

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Re: In Rumtek, a Generation of Buddhist Monks Loses Hope
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2013, 02:08:35 PM »
I think this issue has again, brought up one thing: CTA's inability to even protect their own people. Tai Situpa is very strongly supported by both the Dalai Lama and the CTA. Now that Tai Situpa has legal problems again, CTA is quiet about it and not helping him at all when CTA should have done more to save Rumtek and Tai Situpa. What Vajratruth said is right: the CTA should not have taken sides in the Karmapa issue because it will only cause more confusion and problems for the followers. Maybe you can say it's the bad karma of the followers, or perhaps....CTA is just not good at protecting the Dharma or their own people if there isnt a political gain from it.

CTA's so called protecting their people are by way of harassing Dorje Shugden practitioners and never keep their political commitment in protecting their people. what have they done to the issue of the banning of Dorje Shugden that have seen many who died and succumbed to injuries sustained from harsh treatments for practising  Dorje Shugden? How many more have to suffer? What have they done for the people who self immolated themselves for the freedom of Tibet???

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 04:28:52 AM »
CTA's so called protecting their people are by way of harassing Dorje Shugden practitioners and never keep their political commitment in protecting their people. what have they done to the issue of the banning of Dorje Shugden that have seen many who died and succumbed to injuries sustained from harsh treatments for practising  Dorje Shugden? How many more have to suffer? What have they done for the people who self immolated themselves for the freedom of Tibet???

Havent you heard? they have been holding prayer sessions for those who immolated themselves and glorifying them.  It seems as though CTA is promoting self immolations openly and even Lobsang Sanggay said that all Tibetans have a sacred duty to support the self immolations. But really, this just generates even more self immolations and does CTA care? I doubt it as long as they benefit from it politically, they dont mind exploiting who they can, including their own fellow countrymen. Dorje Shugden followers are being unfairly treated because they think it would help them, but the more they do it the more negative karma they collect.