Proven: CTA being inconsistent to its people

[Galen]

I have just read this article which was posted up a few months back and it startled me that now the CTA has changed its tune of instead fighting for the democracy of the Tibetans in exile, they are now in agreement to be under the Chinese Government rule!!

It raised a few questions:

1. What is the cause the Tibetans and the international community is fighting for all this while? Isn't it for Tibet to gain freedom and independence?

2. Why ban the Dorje Shugden practice if the whole intention of the fight is to be back under China's arm? It was said earlier that the practice of Dorje Shugden will harm the cause of Tibet.


Here is the article. Please read carefully and share your views.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/basis-for-the-dorje-shugden-ban-proven-false/

[icy]

The CTA has been misleading Tibetans all these years. Why is the sudden change in their tune of seeking Tibetan independence to self-autonomy for a limited period? All self-immolators had died a painful death in vain. All the protests and fightings of Tibetans are for show only? Surely CTA had created a huge lie and deception to their own people. They had undermined the intelligence of their people and had made Dorje Shugden a scrapegoat to their Tibetan cause – democracy in deception!

I hope Tibetans will wake up now. If self-autonomy is what they are seeking for, Tibetans can now immediately cross the Himalayan Alps the way they had fled from Tibet into self-autonomous rule. There is no need to protest or flee into exile. This demonstrate CTA have no integrity.

[Jessie Fong]

HHDL had always said that propitiating DS will harm his life but that has not been proven correct, as HH has not been endangered in any way.

How does a religious belief in any way harm Tibet's cause? Why should any people fight for its country's freedom/cause based on religion?

[goldengirl]

The CTA put a ban on Dorje Shugden is actually baseless. This is just because of the failure of a government, the CTA blamed the Tibetan people for practicing a religious deity.
After so many decades, the country of Tibet still can't be ruled by democracy or overthrow the communist party. Even Sikyong Lobsang Sangay  the prime minister of CTA said communist ruled was okay. This development shows that Shugden ban is a scapegoat to satisfy the CTA not being able to unite the Tibetan people even they are not practicing Dorje Shugden and also the life of HH Dalai Lama is not shortened as mentioned before by breaking the samaya.

[dondrup]

As of today, we can see no significant progress whatsoever forthcoming from CTA on the future of the Tibetans in Exile.

The effort to champion the cause for Tibet's democracy is fading. What can CTA do to wrest control from the gigantic and strong China, the leading superpower country in the World today? Unless CTA has the military might to challenge China's Liberation Army; or unless CTA has total support from the World or United Nations, freedom from China is far from reality!

How to fight for the Tibetan Cause when there is disunity among the Tibetans? What CTA should do now is to LIFT the BAN on Dorje Shugden practice! It is so unbecoming and outright ridiculous of a government in the 21st century to blame the failure of the Tibetan cause on a Buddha!

For years HH Dalai Lama has been travelling around the World to seek support from the Western superpowers like USA, England, Australia and so on for the Tibetan cause. But it is clear that these countries who have already established diplomatic ties with China will not go against China.

So where do all these developments lead to for Tibetan in Exile? Every citizen of Tibet must seriously think about what each of them want from CTA. Liberation is in the palm of your hand!

[Galen]

As of today, we can see no significant progress whatsoever forthcoming from CTA on the future of the Tibetans in Exile.

The effort to champion the cause for Tibet's democracy is fading. What can CTA do to wrest control from the gigantic and strong China, the leading superpower country in the World today? Unless CTA has the military might to challenge China's Liberation Army; or unless CTA has total support from the World or United Nations, freedom from China is far from reality!

How to fight for the Tibetan Cause when there is disunity among the Tibetans? What CTA should do now is to LIFT the BAN on Dorje Shugden practice! It is so unbecoming and outright ridiculous of a government in the 21st century to blame the failure of the Tibetan cause on a Buddha!

For years HH Dalai Lama has been travelling around the World to seek support from the Western superpowers like USA, England, Australia and so on for the Tibetan cause. But it is clear that these countries who have already established diplomatic ties with China will not go against China.

So where do all these developments lead to for Tibetan in Exile? Every citizen of Tibet must seriously think about what each of them want from CTA. Liberation is in the palm of your hand!

It is very true that all western countries which have connections with China would not go too far to extend their hand to the CTA in fear of the superpower China is now, politically and economically. In the surface, the  leaders show respect to the Dalai Lama because he is championing a good cause for his people to be free, but the countries would not want to offend China.

Now, the CTA has changed their story of instead of seeking full independence, they are actually seeking autonomy from China  where China still controls them from policies to military. So, what is the difference front he situation now. From a lay Tibetan, there is no difference and they can just walk back into Tibet without have to change anything.

So, for the CTA to blame Dorje Shugden for the failure of their cause is totally absurd.

[icy]

Dr Lobsang Sangay, is the democratically elected Kalon Tripa (Prime Minister), the political leader of the Central Tibetan Administration.  What really surprise me is he is a Senior Fellow at Harvard Law School, an expert in international human rights law.   And yet In his Administration democracy, human rights and freedom do not apply; he violates its own constitution.  The CTA enforces a religious ban on Dorje Shugden and causes a religious apartheid on its people practising the religion creating tremendous suffering and division.  The CTA had also hoodwinked its people from fighting for independence for Tibet to embracing communalism.  The 122 self-immolators who died for Tibet must be turning in their graves for such unforgiving act, they had burned themselves in vain and honoured for their heroic act with much pretense.

How democratic is the democratic CTA?  Can Dr Lobsang Sangay and his CTA officials be trusted ever again?  The case lies with the CTA and Dr Lobsang Sangay to take accountability and rectify their acts.

[dsiluvu]

I have just read this article which was posted up a few months back and it startled me that now the CTA has changed its tune of instead fighting for the democracy of the Tibetans in exile, they are now in agreement to be under the Chinese Government rule!!

It raised a few questions:

1. What is the cause the Tibetans and the international community is fighting for all this while? Isn't it for Tibet to gain freedom and independence?

2. Why ban the Dorje Shugden practice if the whole intention of the fight is to be back under China's arm? It was said earlier that the practice of Dorje Shugden will harm the cause of Tibet.


Here is the article. Please read carefully and share your views.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/basis-for-the-dorje-shugden-ban-proven-false/

What a whole lot of Baloney CTA is! Shameful how they can have no integrity. I guess the sangha and people who burned themselves died for no "TRUE" goals or "mission" because well what did they died for if it was not for Tibet's independence? Now their so call defecto Govt is changing their goals again dues to desperate measures. Looks like they are selling their people out and have taken them for a huge ride! Good lord what's next???

Have you ever think, and I wonder do the Tibetan people ever think they are just being taken on a big ride from one lie after another? Perhaps they should really think now and just self-help and preserve their own culture and tradition wherever they are and create harmony. There has been too many blood shed and disharmony in the world today, Tibet does not have to fall in this category though they have created the causes. Karma will come back is all I can say whether they believe or not. Feels like they are destroying themselves and the longer the stupid ban exist the more Tibetans will be seperated making them a weak society. Perhaps the start of an extinct society? Dangerous when you think of the results they will reap... thanks CTA for creating such "positive"  causes for your people! It's amazing how they can harm others and still get away with it?!   [/b]

[fruven]

I have just read this article which was posted up a few months back and it startled me that now the CTA has changed its tune of instead fighting for the democracy of the Tibetans in exile, they are now in agreement to be under the Chinese Government rule!!

It raised a few questions:

1. What is the cause the Tibetans and the international community is fighting for all this while? Isn't it for Tibet to gain freedom and independence?

2. Why ban the Dorje Shugden practice if the whole intention of the fight is to be back under China's arm? It was said earlier that the practice of Dorje Shugden will harm the cause of Tibet.


Here is the article. Please read carefully and share your views.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/basis-for-the-dorje-shugden-ban-proven-false/

Not practicing Dharma is harming the cause of Tibet. Breaking of the fundamental refuge vows one already collecting so much negative karma imagine the people in CTA and those anti-Shudgen practitioners.

One or two generations have gone is going back to Tibet necessitate to comply with whatever rules dictate by China?

[shugdenpromoter]

What is new? CTA has always been in consistent to its people.

For any government even if they are in exile, they are supposed to put their people first. But with CTA/TGIE, they have broken the Tibetans up even more and instead of standing strong together.

I am not surprise that the CTA is now in the agreement to be under the Chinese Government. China is strong and CTA is no where near what they want to achieve.

[lotus1]

It is just another evident to show that CTA has never been consistent in their actions. It is all for their politics gains to gain power and control! No basis at all!
On what basis can CTA negotiate with China? What have they done and benefited to the Tibetan that China will listen to them? Will splitting the Tibetan by putting the blame on Dorje Shugden helps? Will being schism to the Shugden practitioners by not giving them the social, education, medical rights help CTA to gain respects from China?? What China wants is a united and harmony country. The approach that CTA has been doing all these while is definitely not the right way to go!

[vajrastorm]

The inconsistencies of the CTA can be seen on several levels.  There is the inconsistency of saying that Dorje Shugden  was harming the cause of Tibetan Freedom and hence ,he should not be practiced. When we examine the "cause of Tibetan Freedom", we find that this cause is like shifting sand. It started being total freedom for Tibet from  Chinese Rule. When that didn't work, it became the "middle way" or mere autonomy for Tibet. The outrageous implication of this shift of stance, is that the death of over 100 in suicide /self-immolation was in vain.

The second inconsistency is that of its use of the term "democracy". Earlier ,  the TGIE, had spoken passionately about how the "freedom of speech and democracy were enshrined in the Charter of the Tibetan Government". Today it is acting most inconsistently in throwing democracy to the winds in regard to their intolerance of Shugden practitioners, who are ostracized and not given their equal rights to freedom  and greater equality , who are atrociously attacked.

[lotus1]

Not just CTA, His Holiness Dalai Lama is contradicting himself in his public statements too.  Check out : http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/contradiction-in-the-dalai-lamas-public-statements
Why is it that HHDL shift in tone and message on Dorje Shugden matters throughout the years, instead of being consistent on it if it is a truth ?

We can clearly see that the ban on Dorje Shugden is no basis at all. Besides, the 10th Panchen Lama writes a prayter to Dorje Shugden and in his Tashi Lunpo Monastery, he has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Would the respected Panchen Lama, Trijang Rinpoche, Pabongka Rinpoche and all the high lamas wrong on their practices on Dorje Shugden? Definitely NOT!

[Gabby Potter]

I am not surprised by this at all, a leader that constricts the people religious freedom has pretty much tells the world what kind of people they are. It's sad that some of their people just do not see this and continue to support their evil acts which led to sufferings of their own people.