Author Topic: Differences between Dalai Lama & CTA president put Tibetan politics in tailspin  (Read 12586 times)

vajratruth

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I am not at all surprised that there is a rift between the Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay.

1. Lobsang Sangay wants to be in control and yet try as he might he cannot escape living in the Dalai Lama's shadows. We know Sangay is a very corrupt, ambitious and political-minded person in the way he appoints his cronies instead of qualified people to key positions and we have seen how he dealt with Penpa Tsering and even changed election bylaws to disqualify Lukar Jam,

2. We know that Sangay is persona non grata to China and therefore is useless in any dialogue with China. Hence the Dalai Lama sent Samdhong Rinpoche instead when the Dalai Lama wanted to open dialogue with China earlier this year. Lobsang Sangay was sidelined. So Sangay is merely a token of the Dalai Lama's 'democracy' claim. Real power is still with the Dalai Lama and Sangay cannot be happy with that,

3. We have also seen how Sangay sabotages the Dalai Lama's efforts to reconcile with China. DS.com covered it in a story and here is an excerpt:

The Sabotage

A number of incidences bear testimony to this. For instance, in July 2017 amid a tense standoff between India and China, the President of the CTA Lobsang Sangay decided it was an opportune time to assert Tibetan independence, and to raise the Tibetan flag at Pangong Tso (Pangong Lake), which lies between India and China. Sangay’s taunt of China was all the more provocative given it was done within eyeshot of Tibet. That injudicious act infuriated China, a result at odds with India’s seeking of a peaceful solution to its border woes. To redress the injury, the Indian Foreign Secretary subsequently instructed all Indian government officials to refrain from participating in Tibetan events organized to mark the 60th anniversary of the Dalai Lama’s exile in India. In essence, the CTA significantly diminished almost 60 years of goodwill the Dalai Lama had built with the CTA’s generous host.

More recently, the Dalai Lama’s efforts to close the gap between Dharamsala and Beijing with accord on spiritual matters has been brazenly thwarted by his own Tibetan government-in-exile. In April 2018, the Dalai Lama acknowledged that the China-enthroned Panchen Lama Gyaincain Norbu is in fact the “official Panchen Lama”, a statement that effectively endorses China’s legitimacy in recognizing and enthroning high lamas. This represents a complete reversal of the Tibetan leadership’s past stance, which asserted that Gyancain Norbu is merely a political stooge and a false incarnation of the popular 10th Panchen Lama. Given the importance of the Panchen Lama, deemed to be the highest-ranking Tibetan lama in China, the Dalai Lama’s acceptance of the Chinese Panchen Lama was clearly designed to thaw relations with Beijing and draw parties back to the negotiation table. The head of the CTA, Lobsang Sangay was with the Dalai Lama when his proclamation on Gyancain Norbu was made and so there cannot have been a miscommunication.

Nevertheless, just two days later, the CTA saw it fit to publish on its official website an article critical of the Chinese Panchen Lama and demanded the release of their authorized Panchen Lama candidate, Gedhun Choekyi Nyima whom they claim had been kidnapped by China in 1995. To ensure that their point was not lost, another two stories were published on the CTA website in May 2018, both critical of the Chinese Panchen Lama. In essence, these stories demolished whatever foundations of friendship the Dalai Lama was constructing with Beijing.


http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/the-dalai-lama-and-his-government-catch-22-tibet/

4. In the final analysis, the Dalai Lama and Sangay have different objectives now. The Dalai Lama clearly wishes to return to Tibet. This may be a personal desire or it may be the Dalai Lama realising that its better to finally bring peace to his people after decades of struggle. Sangay on the other hand will be reduced to nothing if the Tibetan people really do return to China. The CTA which is Sangay's 'empire' will have to be dismantled and its unlikely Sangay will have any real power in China-controlled Tibet. CTA in exile on the other hand makes Sangay somewhat of a celebrity and he exercises power without any accountability. Without an ongoing Tibetan struggle, Sangay is nothing but an assistant researcher in an American university. So why would he want for the Tibetan struggle to end?

The Tibetan leadership is splintered in so many ways with factions like Penpa Tsering's camp versus Sangay's camp. And now we are seeing another split. How is the Tibetan dream ever going to be accomplished?

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Actually, what right does the Sikyong, Lobsang Sangay had to cancel the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism, anyway? It is not even in his purview. This is religious matter and there is nothing religious at all in his qualifications nor does his position of "President" entails religious rights. Religious matters had always been under the role of the Dalai Lama. Never had the Dalai Lama infer that Sikyong has any rights to interfere. Hmm, very very daring of Sikyong. Cat away and mouse come out. More like a sewer rat. Tsks! Tsks! Yucks, sex predator just like Soygal Lakar! The Dalai Lama had promised to bring up the matter of sex offenders within Buddhism during his meeting with Soygal's victims. Now we know Sikyong has something to hide. Maybe he had been receiving funds from Sogyal and now prevents the issue being raised.... Hmmm! Naughty, naughty! No wonder he dares assault the American lady! Must be Sogyal's influence. Aw, poor Dhardon Sharling! Not good enough to keep him from straying. Ah well! That's the karma for separating your people with trump up allegations on authentic Dorje Shugden practice. More karma is coming.

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Some say Lobsang Sangay wants the Dalai Lama to be back in Tibet, but I really doubt it. If the Dalai Lama is back to Tibet, Lobsang Sangay will lose his power and position in the CTA. Lobsang Sangay has to understand the person who really holds the commanding power is the Dalai Lama, not him.

Many sponsors donate to the Free Tibet movement because of Dalai Lama. Whose name and face do the activists use for their campaign? Lobsang Sangay or the Dalai Lama? Who is invited to go around the world to give talks to thousands and thousands of people? Lobsang Sangay or the Dalai Lama? So who can generate income? The answer is quite clear, it is the Dalai Lama!

What is in Lobsang Sangay’s mind? He does not get anything by going against the Dalai Lama, he is risking his own future. He can never replace the Dalai Lama. Without the Dalai Lama, the CTA or Lobsang Sangay will not be able to get so much financial support from the west. What game is Lobsang Sangay playing now?

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It has been obvious that the President of the Tibetan leadership is not in sync with His Holiness the Dalai Lama and it is not only recently. When His Holiness the Dalai Lama announced that the approach that everyone should be working towards as the solution of Tibetan cause will be Umaylam. His Holiness can see that Rangzen is not possible anymore and the best solution will be autonomy within China.

As the President of the Tibetan Leadership, Mr Lobsang Sangay should be supporting His Holiness's decision and take action to make sure Umaylam succeeds. To request for autonomy within China, they need to get on China's good side and have a dialogue with them. However, Lobsang Sangay travelled across the globe attending Rangzen meetings and also raise awareness of China's human right situation wherever he goes.

How is that going to get on China's good books? He is confusing China because China is seeing two difference stance from the Tibetans. First, His Holiness wanted to get on the good side of China and secondly, the president of the Tibetan goes around the globe to talk bad about China. That is why we can see clearly that Lobsang Sangay is not supporting His Holiness and his wishes. He is delaying the return of Tibetans in exile to Tibet.

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Lobsang Sangay does not really agree with the Dalai Lama even though he claims he respects the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama has said so many times he wants to go back to China but what has Lobsang Sangay done to fulfill the Dalai Lama's wish? Deep down inside, Lobsang Sangay has his own agenda.

The Dalai Lama must have known it as well that Lobsang Sangay is not in agreement with him. That was why the Dalai Lama secretly sent Samdhong Rinpoche to China. He knew Lobsang Sangay will not do anything to make sure he is back in Tibet. 

Tibet has progressed so much under the Chinese ruling. Perhaps the Dalai Lama also sees that no one in the CTA is capable of bringing a better future for the Tibetans. Hence, it will be better to go back to Tibet. Besides, the Tibetans in exile are getting fewer, there is no point to maintain an administration office anymore. 

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Lobsang Sangay is a puppet running an administration that has only 75,000 people. He is not satisfied to have no real power and living under the shadow of the Dalai Lama. Unlike Sangay, Bob aka Robert Thurman would love the role to have all the money to spend without really needing to do anything. The expesive trips, fine dining and love affairs are very much the focus of Bob Thurman's life.

Lobsang Sangay is wishing daily that the Dalai Lama would pass sooner and he is very happy that the Dalai Lama has terminal prostate cancer. Otherwise, a useless coward like him would never dare to go against the Dalai Lama's will. Sangay thought since the Dalai Lama is sick, he can FINALLY hold real power. This is the real reason why he changed the constitution recently to make sure he is always the Sikyong.

2019 has arrived. I wish very much that we have more good news in the failing of the CTA!


I am not at all surprised that there is a rift between the Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay.

1. Lobsang Sangay wants to be in control and yet try as he might he cannot escape living in the Dalai Lama's shadows. We know Sangay is a very corrupt, ambitious and political-minded person in the way he appoints his cronies instead of qualified people to key positions and we have seen how he dealt with Penpa Tsering and even changed election bylaws to disqualify Lukar Jam,

2. We know that Sangay is persona non grata to China and therefore is useless in any dialogue with China. Hence the Dalai Lama sent Samdhong Rinpoche instead when the Dalai Lama wanted to open dialogue with China earlier this year. Lobsang Sangay was sidelined. So Sangay is merely a token of the Dalai Lama's 'democracy' claim. Real power is still with the Dalai Lama and Sangay cannot be happy with that,

3. We have also seen how Sangay sabotages the Dalai Lama's efforts to reconcile with China. DS.com covered it in a story and here is an excerpt:

The Sabotage

A number of incidences bear testimony to this. For instance, in July 2017 amid a tense standoff between India and China, the President of the CTA Lobsang Sangay decided it was an opportune time to assert Tibetan independence, and to raise the Tibetan flag at Pangong Tso (Pangong Lake), which lies between India and China. Sangay’s taunt of China was all the more provocative given it was done within eyeshot of Tibet. That injudicious act infuriated China, a result at odds with India’s seeking of a peaceful solution to its border woes. To redress the injury, the Indian Foreign Secretary subsequently instructed all Indian government officials to refrain from participating in Tibetan events organized to mark the 60th anniversary of the Dalai Lama’s exile in India. In essence, the CTA significantly diminished almost 60 years of goodwill the Dalai Lama had built with the CTA’s generous host.

More recently, the Dalai Lama’s efforts to close the gap between Dharamsala and Beijing with accord on spiritual matters has been brazenly thwarted by his own Tibetan government-in-exile. In April 2018, the Dalai Lama acknowledged that the China-enthroned Panchen Lama Gyaincain Norbu is in fact the “official Panchen Lama”, a statement that effectively endorses China’s legitimacy in recognizing and enthroning high lamas. This represents a complete reversal of the Tibetan leadership’s past stance, which asserted that Gyancain Norbu is merely a political stooge and a false incarnation of the popular 10th Panchen Lama. Given the importance of the Panchen Lama, deemed to be the highest-ranking Tibetan lama in China, the Dalai Lama’s acceptance of the Chinese Panchen Lama was clearly designed to thaw relations with Beijing and draw parties back to the negotiation table. The head of the CTA, Lobsang Sangay was with the Dalai Lama when his proclamation on Gyancain Norbu was made and so there cannot have been a miscommunication.

Nevertheless, just two days later, the CTA saw it fit to publish on its official website an article critical of the Chinese Panchen Lama and demanded the release of their authorized Panchen Lama candidate, Gedhun Choekyi Nyima whom they claim had been kidnapped by China in 1995. To ensure that their point was not lost, another two stories were published on the CTA website in May 2018, both critical of the Chinese Panchen Lama. In essence, these stories demolished whatever foundations of friendship the Dalai Lama was constructing with Beijing.


http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/the-dalai-lama-and-his-government-catch-22-tibet/

4. In the final analysis, the Dalai Lama and Sangay have different objectives now. The Dalai Lama clearly wishes to return to Tibet. This may be a personal desire or it may be the Dalai Lama realising that its better to finally bring peace to his people after decades of struggle. Sangay on the other hand will be reduced to nothing if the Tibetan people really do return to China. The CTA which is Sangay's 'empire' will have to be dismantled and its unlikely Sangay will have any real power in China-controlled Tibet. CTA in exile on the other hand makes Sangay somewhat of a celebrity and he exercises power without any accountability. Without an ongoing Tibetan struggle, Sangay is nothing but an assistant researcher in an American university. So why would he want for the Tibetan struggle to end?

The Tibetan leadership is splintered in so many ways with factions like Penpa Tsering's camp versus Sangay's camp. And now we are seeing another split. How is the Tibetan dream ever going to be accomplished?

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Lobsang Sangay is stupid to think he can finally take over the Dalai Lama and be the boss. People show support to the Tibetans in exile is because of the Dalai Lama, not because of Lobsang Sangay. Seriously, how many people know Lobsang Sangay is the president of the Tibetans in exile?

Even though the Dalai Lama has retired from the political role, many political heads still like to meet him. We don't really see them meeting Lobsang Sangay. Just face it, Lobsang Sangay can never be as big as the Dalai Lama.

Maybe Lobsang Sangay goes against the Dalai Lama on purpose, hoping that he would be sacked. If he is sacked by the Dalai Lama, he could cover his failure as the leader of the Tibetans. He could victimise himself by saying the Dalai Lama is still controlling the Tibetan administration and he could not execute what he thinks is right for the Tibetans.