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Tibetans want ceremonial role for Dalai Lama
« on: May 24, 2011, 07:40:14 PM »
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Tibetans want ceremonial role for Dalai Lama
Associated Press, 05.24.11, 10:52 AM EDT

DHARMSALA, India -- Tibetans in India say they plan to urge the Dalai Lama to stay on as the ceremonial head of state of their government-in-exile.

The Tibetan parliament is discussing amendments to its constitution after the 75-year-old spiritual leader announced that he wanted to shift his political authority to an elected leader.
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More than 400 Tibetan exiles ended four days of deliberations on amending the constitution Tuesday in the northern Indian hill town of Dharmsala, the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile.

At the same conference, they discussed the new role for the Dalai Lama.

A parliament spokesman said if the Dalai Lama turns down their proposal, they would consider amending the constitution to make him the protector and symbol of the Tibetan nation.


This says a lot for me that word ceremonial, like the English royalty they do not have real power anymore, to govern over the lives of their people.

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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 04:12:45 PM »
Ceremonial or not, the Dalai Lama has rejected the request.

http://phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=29575&article=Dalai+Lama+rejects+Tibetan+exiles%27+appeal+to+be+ceremonial+head+of+state

Dalai Lama rejects Tibetan exiles' appeal to be ceremonial head of state
Phayul [Wednesday, May 25, 2011 14:24]
By Kalsang Rinchen

Dharamsala, May 25 - The Tibetan leader Dalai Lama has turned down an appeal by exile Tibetans to be the "ceremonial head of state". The 1989 Nobel Laureate who announced his decision in March to relinquish his political and administrative powers today told the participants of the second Tibetan General Meeting that he can not accept the role of a "ceremonial head of state".

The Dalai Lama, however, said he will go through the report submitted by the second Tibetan General Meeting to him.

The Tibetan leader Wednesday met over 400 participants from around 25 countries at an audience that was closed to the media.

The second Tibetan General Meeting concluded Tuesday with the participants reaching a consensus to appeal the Tibetan leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama to assume a role of “ceremonial head of the state”.

A 4-day meeting that was attended by 418 Tibetans from various parts of the world divided the participants into 10 committees that discussed the draft amendments to the Tibetan Charter concerning mainly with the political and administrative powers of the Dalai Lama.

The Speaker of the Tibetan parliament Penpa Tsering said Tuesday,“If His Holiness refuses to accept the appeal of the second Tibetan General Meeting then we will have to sit down and discuss ways to devolve the powers in Article 19 of the Charter to the three organs of democracy.”

A final compiled report from the recommendations by the 10 committees was presented to His Holiness the Dalai Lama during the audience today.

The Tibetan legislators will meet for two days starting May 26 for a special session to discuss and evaluate the proposed amendments to the Charter and Preamble.
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Re: Tibetans want ceremonial role for Dalai Lama
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 05:49:40 AM »
Looks like HHDL is showing a strong stance to not be involved in Tibetan politics, giving way to  Lobsang Sangay who will replace Samdhong Rinpoche and assume office Aug 14 as the Kalon Tripa.

The Tibetan's wish for HHDL to be head/ceremonial head of state shows their dependencies and trust on him.

Does this trust and dependency on HHDL, comes more from him having been a political leader or faith n him as a Spiritual leader, believed to be Avalokitesvara? If it is the latter, then relinquishing the political role will only have minimal effects on the dependency of the exiled Tibetans.

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 10:18:03 AM »
I find this article very well written and offers sound advice. Do take a read.

Source: http://burningtibet.blogspot.com/2011/03/dalai-lama-will-retire.html
The Dalai Lama Will Retire


Yeshi Tsomo is 74-years-old. When asked about His Holiness the Dalai Lama's retirement from Tibetan politics her face melts into a pool of tears. This is the fundamental problem. Emotions of the Tibetan people, both in and outside Tibet, become so elevated on this issue that the possibility of any logical analysis and factual decision dies. We must, as Bob Dylan sang, “take the rag away from [y]our face/Now ain't the time for [y]our tears.”


Retirement Conundrum
Misunderstandings regarding the Dalai Lama’s wish to retire are widespread among the Tibetans and also in the media, some of which reported that the Dalai Lama is “retiring from being the Dalai Lama”. His Holiness states his powers should be devolved and that the involvement of the institution of the Dalai Lama in the Tibetan Government must now cease. But, as one among six million Tibetans, the Dalai Lama will continue to serve the cause of Tibet. This is a historic decision and the culmination of the democratization process that His Holiness started since coming into exile in April 1959.

This decision stems from his belief that “the essence of a democratic system is, in short, the assumption of political responsibility by elected leaders for the popular good.” In 2001, the Tibetans in exile directly elected their prime minister for the first time and on 20 March this year, the exile community will vote both for the prime minister and members of the Tibetan Parliament in Exile. Over the past ten years the Kashag (cabinet) headed by the prime minister has been taking the day-to-day administrative responsibilities and the Dalai Lama’s role has dramatically reduced. However, in order for the Tibetan democratization process to be complete, His Holiness states that “the time has come for me to devolve my formal authority to such an elected leadership.”

This is a pragmatic political decision involving the long-term interests of the Tibetan struggle and the survival of Tibet as a nation without having to depend on one person. There is no space for emotional outbursts and counterfactual arguments. Healthy debates, especially among the younger generation, have already started in social networks. This must continue, informed by full understanding of His Holiness’ decision and with full knowledge of its impacts.

The Impacts
In 1642, the Fifth Dalai Lama founded the Ganden Phodrang Government of Tibet. Since then the successive Dalai Lamas have provided leadership for nearly four centuries. Few governments in the world today can trace their institutional and legal origins so far back in history. Hence the institution of the Dalai Lama has great historical legitimacy. Additionally, because of his tireless work for Tibet, the 14th Dalai Lama is universally recognized by Tibetans in and outside Tibet as their undisputed leader. Today the issue of Tibet is synonymous with the Dalai Lama.

Immediately after coming into exile, the Dalai Lama established the Tibetan Government-in-Exile, officially known as the Central Tibetan Administration of His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Since then, the exile government under the Dalai Lama set up as many as 12 foreign missions all under the auspices of His Holiness’ name. These missions and other establishments are essential to bring the issue of Tibet to their respective countries and to to assert the just cause of Tibet in international forums.

How will the offices of Tibet continue to operate under the Dalai Lama’s name if the institution of the Dalai Lama is delinked from the Tibetan government? In fact, how will the entire exile establishment function and survive without the Dalai Lama?

The question can be also raised regarding the roles of the Dalai Lama’s special envoys through which talks with China are held. Since world leaders, including Barack Obama, urge the Chinese leadership to talk with the Dalai Lama and his envoys, how an elected Tibetan leadership can impress upon the international audience — and more importantly leaders of the free world — to pressure China to talk with them? How can a Tibetan government not led by the Dalai Lama command legitimacy and the loyalty of Tibetans in and outside of Tibet.

These are absolutely difficult and crucially important questions without easy solutions. But delaying these eventualities will make things worse. Having experienced occupation, exile, traveling the world and meeting with numerous leaders, His Holiness understands the complex global political situation and its impact on Tibet better than any other Tibetan. Thus, His Holiness states that the Tibetan must implement a system of governance while he “… will still be able to help resolve problems if called upon to do so”.

This is a testament to his enduring and tireless work for Tibet. This is reassurance enough for the Tibetan people to bury their emotions, wipe their tears and work to establish a democratic system based on informed and mature decisions.

The Challenges
As I write this, the 11th session of the 14th Tibetan Parliament in Exile is discussing the Dalai Lama’s decision to devolve his powers to the elected leadership. In the annals of Tibetan history, the decisions that come out of this session will be crucial.

Yesterday, when the Speaker read His Holiness’ statement many members of parliament were in tears. Later, when the media interviewed some of them, they found it hard to control their emotions. This is understandable. Tibetans inside Tibet must feel even worse. The issue is not only about the Dalai Lama’s devolution of powers but also changing the title of the Ganden Phodrang Government headed by the Dalai Lamas for nearly four centuries.

But soaking handkerchiefs and banging chests does not help. Decisions must not be taken in heightened emotional states, which often turn out to be counterfactual, incorrect and damaging in the long run. The test before the parliament is to find a viable legal solution, in which His Holiness is freed from all the ceremonial and administrative responsibilities but, perhaps, still remains the head of state. This is important because the Dalai Lama has historical legitimacy and complete trust of the Tibetan populace. Besides, any elected leadership in exile may find it hard to maintain the offices of Tibet and other vital democratic institutions without the legitimacy of the Dalai Lama’s name and global reach.

However, this is not the solution that His Holiness desires, which is to simply be one among the six million Tibetans and serve Tibet accordingly. More importantly, His Holiness wants to separate the institution of Dalai Lama from that of the Tibetan government. If members of the parliament are to fulfil this, they must be bold enough to use their political vision and acumen to make amendments in the Charter for Tibetans-in-exile so that a functioning system of governance can be instituted in exile without the Dalai Lama. “Now, a decision on this important matter should be delayed no longer,” wrote His Holiness in his statement.

The Positive Outcomes
The genius of the legislative body will lie in instituting a democratic system so that a complete transformational operation on the structure of the exile government does not have to be performed immediately, but at the same time fulfils the Dalai Lama’s wishes. If such a system is in place, then there will be a clear demarcation between the political issue of the six million Tibetans and that of the person of the Dalai Lama. This is crucial since the Chinese authorities make the issue of Tibet synonymous with that of the Dalai Lama’s personal status. Besides, the Dalai Lama working for the Tibetan cause as an individual — “as one among the six million Tibetans” — will be more legitimate, more democratic and more long-term.

A democratic system sans the Dalai Lama will also make it easier for the Middle Way Policy to be reviewed, re-analyzed and amended if necessary.  Currently, any challenge to this policy and discussions on other strategies such as Rangzen are affected by emotions. On one online forum a Rangzen advocate was branded as ‘against’ His Holiness. Additionally, if a time comes when Rangzen becomes the official policy, then the Chinese authorities won’t be able to call the Dalai Lama a ‘separatist’ engaged in ‘activities splitting China’.

Whatever solutions the exile parliament may come to, they must bear in mind that His Holiness’ decision is for the long-term benefit of the Tibetans — that a democratic system led by a popularly elected leadership becomes more stable, longer lasting and is more in tune with changing times than depending on one person. Fear of temporary shake-ups must not prevent them from paving ways for the future.

The Tibetan people, in and outside Tibet, need to realize that His Holiness the Dalai Lama has tirelessly served Tibet since the age of sixteen. He turns 76 this year. The least that Tibetans can do is to be less selfish and carry out our duties to give him some time and personal freedom. His Holiness does not say that he is going into a cave nor is shirking any responsibilities. His Holiness simply wants to be one among the Tibetans and “as long as Tibetans place their trust and faith in me,” he says, “I will continue to serve the cause of Tibet.”

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Re: Tibetans want ceremonial role for Dalai Lama
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 02:17:28 PM »
No matter what happens, the Dalai Lama will never be relegated to a ceremonial role. He will always be in the forefront even when he's suppose to be in the background. Tibetans find it impossible to operate, function and make a move without Dalai Lama. The whole Tibetan Govt is set up to revolve around the Dalai Lama. Any dissension will be considered treason. It is still a Monarchy of a sorts.

The only people who will be ceremonial will be the new Prime Minister Lobsang Sangay and the rest of the so called Tibetan Govt. Everything they do is ceremonial. They have no real power. They never had and never will. Everything will need the Dalai Lama's approval.

Whatever the Dalai Lama says, goes. No need to think any further, because if you do, you are against the Dalai Lama automatically. If you are against the Dalai Lama, then you are automatically against the Tibetan Nation whether you really are or not makes no difference. Simple and easy example. If you practice Dorje Shugden you are in support of China. The Tibetan Govt promotes this thought strongly. Wrong as it may be, that is what they promote to control the Tibetan populace. The word here is control.



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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 09:35:41 AM »
The Dalai Lama is still in full control over many things. As long as Tibetans exist and they cling on to their old systems, the Dalai Lama can never be 'free' of  his cultural role as their leader. All this, I believe, will eventually take a toll on HHDL's health as he has to fly everywhere and that can be very tiring. I really hope that the people at CTA will give him enough time to rest and not overwork him.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 05:35:52 AM »
I would agree with Ensapa and Thaimonk that HH Dalai Lama will not only take on the ceremonial role. I am saying this because the Kalon Tripa (Prime Minister) Lobsang Sangay has hold the position for more than 1 year, and yet, NOTHING is being done to serve the entire Tibetan community.

Lobsang Sangay should have done something which will would have benefited the entire Tibetan community already. But, NOTHING!! As a prime minister, shouldn't Lobang Sangal be doing something for the entire Tibetan community, regardless of their race, religion and practices??

I am saying this not because I don't trust HH Dalai Lama, but I don't trust the so call elected government has the guts to do something for the entire community, and it is proven for more than a year now.

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 05:41:02 AM »
I would agree with Ensapa and Thaimonk that HH Dalai Lama will not only take on the ceremonial role. I am saying this because the Kalon Tripa (Prime Minister) Lobsang Sangay has hold the position for more than 1 year, and yet, NOTHING is being done to serve the entire Tibetan community.

Lobsang Sangay should have done something which will would have benefited the entire Tibetan community already. But, NOTHING!! As a prime minister, shouldn't Lobang Sangal be doing something for the entire Tibetan community, regardless of their race, religion and practices??

I am saying this not because I don't trust HH Dalai Lama, but I don't trust the so call elected government has the guts to do something for the entire community, and it is proven for more than a year now.

This is not the worst part of the whole thing. The worst part is that, the Dalai Lama is being overexerted by the CTA to work for their cause. Why hasnt anyone asked HHDL to rest, but put him on flights everywhere? The Dalai Lama is not getting younger and flying in a plane for many hours and having his body adjust to different timezones on a regular basis would take a huge toll on HHDL's body. I do not like what they are doing to HHDL. For independence, they do not mind at all what they are doing to HHDL. Why pray for his long life on one hand and then work his body to exhaustion on the other ?!

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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 05:30:54 AM »
No matter what happens, the Dalai Lama will never be relegated to a ceremonial role. He will always be in the forefront even when he's suppose to be in the background. Tibetans find it impossible to operate, function and make a move without Dalai Lama. The whole Tibetan Govt is set up to revolve around the Dalai Lama. Any dissension will be considered treason. It is still a Monarchy of a sorts.

The only people who will be ceremonial will be the new Prime Minister Lobsang Sangay and the rest of the so called Tibetan Govt. Everything they do is ceremonial. They have no real power. They never had and never will. Everything will need the Dalai Lama's approval.

Whatever the Dalai Lama says, goes. No need to think any further, because if you do, you are against the Dalai Lama automatically. If you are against the Dalai Lama, then you are automatically against the Tibetan Nation whether you really are or not makes no difference. Simple and easy example. If you practice Dorje Shugden you are in support of China. The Tibetan Govt promotes this thought strongly. Wrong as it may be, that is what they promote to control the Tibetan populace. The word here is control.

The above mentioned is true as we see no independent decisions made by CTA on their own without His Holiness talking about it/backing them up. In fact we still see and we mostly see HHDL talking, touring etc.... yes the Tibetans world really revolve on this one man... I wonder how they will stand up on their own once HHDL passes. Sorry to bring this up over and over again but one day this will happen... this will come and what will they do? If they do not start making their own decisions now, when exactly will they? Or is it because they really do not have anyone "influential" and "confident" enough to talk to world leaders. I mean do we see their PM Mr. Sangay flying around creating ties with any other world leader?

The Tibetans/CTA really need to wake soon and fast because the more and more they follow behind HHDL's fame and power, they more they will create their own recipe of a disastrous nation with no leader, no voice, no country. It is quite scary come to think of it.... poor them.... they even make enemies with their own highly attained, powerful and influential Tibetan Lamas that are growing world wide like Gangchen Rinpoche, GKG, Denma Locho Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche etc etc... how silly and narrow is their vision.

What's the point is fighting for Tibet land in China when there is no one capable of organising and help the people after that???... they are probably better off in China's care... at least they will get proper sanitation, education and infrastructure set up.

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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 07:00:00 AM »
The  problem with the Tibetans is that they think that freedom will be granted to them even if they do not work or do anything about it. This is why they have not done anything about themselves or Dharamsala until now. Although I do understand that many of them have a very nomadic background and they did not have to stay in one place and actually develop it, but the world has changed since and now they are facing other nations of the world where previously they did not need to and many of them, including CTA are unable to adapt or catch up. If only the Tibetans are willing to change themselves to adapt to today's world, and that includes not turing a religious ban into a secular one, they would be able to advance in today's world and gain the independence and respect they so desire.

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2012, 11:01:24 AM »
The Dalai Lama will always hold a special place in the ordinary Tibetans' hearts and minds. I think the time for the Dalai Lama's role as a ruler is gone now. Even the Dalai Lama himself thinks so and has decided to step down as the ruler and is now just a spiritual leader of the Tibetan people instead of being a temporal (political) leader as well. In previous lives, retiring from the role as a leader was never heard of and the Dalai Lama is the effective ruler for life.

However, that is clearly an antiquated practice and although the Dalai Lama never retire from his will to benefit others, he has taken on the appearance of retiring so that there will be a smoother transition of power. I think this is just a brilliant move by the Dalai Lama that will lessen the destabilizing struggle for power after the Dalai Lama departs from his earthly body.

Whatever it is, a formal ceremonial role for the Dalai Lama is unnecessary at this point as his role is somewhat of an unofficial religious leader anyway. When I think about it, this whole call for a ceremonial role is the Tibetan wish for time to be reversed and for the Dalai Lama to be the head of the country and then perhaps, their innate wish for their return to the Tibetan homeland.

However, offering the Dalai Lama a ceremonial role will not do much to reverse things. What can reverse things is if the Tibetan leaders wizen up and seek to develop and amicable diplomatic relations with China. I am sure with the spate of self-immolations occurring all over Tibet, the Chinese are eager to do something to ease the tensions. If the Tibetans were smarter, they would seize this opportunity to re-establish favorable diplomatic talks.

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2012, 11:07:56 AM »
The Dalai Lama will always hold a special place in the ordinary Tibetans' hearts and minds. I think the time for the Dalai Lama's role as a ruler is gone now. Even the Dalai Lama himself thinks so and has decided to step down as the ruler and is now just a spiritual leader of the Tibetan people instead of being a temporal (political) leader as well. In previous lives, retiring from the role as a leader was never heard of and the Dalai Lama is the effective ruler for life.

However, that is clearly an antiquated practice and although the Dalai Lama never retire from his will to benefit others, he has taken on the appearance of retiring so that there will be a smoother transition of power. I think this is just a brilliant move by the Dalai Lama that will lessen the destabilizing struggle for power after the Dalai Lama departs from his earthly body.

Whatever it is, a formal ceremonial role for the Dalai Lama is unnecessary at this point as his role is somewhat of an unofficial religious leader anyway. When I think about it, this whole call for a ceremonial role is the Tibetan wish for time to be reversed and for the Dalai Lama to be the head of the country and then perhaps, their innate wish for their return to the Tibetan homeland.

However, offering the Dalai Lama a ceremonial role will not do much to reverse things. What can reverse things is if the Tibetan leaders wizen up and seek to develop and amicable diplomatic relations with China. I am sure with the spate of self-immolations occurring all over Tibet, the Chinese are eager to do something to ease the tensions. If the Tibetans were smarter, they would seize this opportunity to re-establish favorable diplomatic talks.

Not exactly there as CTA has nothing to offer to the Chinese, except more trouble. The Chinese KNOW for a fact that CTA has been inciting self immolations in tibet and even encouraging more to do so. They're not stupid as a huge nation with much technologies and resources. If HHDL keeps quiet for a while and the self immolations stop for maybe 6 months? and then the CTA tries to talk to the Chinese, it would make more sense than have more self immolations continue and the Dalai Lama making a huge presence worldwide (because everyone knows its not for blessings) so....CTA should really, really stop doing stuff that are counterproductive.

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2012, 02:38:46 PM »
The Dalai Lama has said on a number of occassions that he no longer wishes to be involved in Tibetan political and secular affairs. My guess is that His Holiness is quite aware of how irreversibly China views him as a threat and by removing himself, he is hoping that dialogue between the CTA and China can resume. In fact, in public at least, China's quarrel seems to be with His Holiness alone and the stance the Dalai Lama is perceived to have taken which in China's view, is dangerous to its efforts to pacify insurgence in a few sensitive border states. The mere presence and proximity of the Dalai Lama to Tibetan decision making apparatus is taken by the Chinese to mean that the Dalai Lama is still exerting influence and hence even the proposed ceremonial role has been rejected by His Holiness.

If that assumption is correct, it is interesting then, that His Holiness has not seen it fit to change his "image" vis-a-vis the Chinese Government's perception of him and instead has continued to antagonize the Chinese with his speeches and comments, often rubbing salt into China's already sore and sensitive human rights reputation. Perhaps the Dalai has been stating what he truly believes in, but in the spirit of democracy, he is prepared not to let his personal opinion jeapordize dialogue with China. It may also be that the Dalai Lama is provoking the Chinese to embrace Dorje Shugden is a bigger way as a means to counter him seeing that His Holiness has already stated clearly that the Shugden practice is the way to shorten his life, and is taken literally to be a clear step in opposing the Dalai Lama.

The question is how many people actually believe that the Dalai Lama will no longer influence Tibet's domestic and foreign policies and that his devolvement from politics is not a sleight of hand designed to let the Chinese guard down? The answer lies in how Sikyong Lobsang Sangay and the CTA respond to their new and enhanced responsibilities in making decisions, and even decisions that the Dalai Lama may not personally favour, but nevertheless will signal the CTA's maturity and readiness to meet challenges on its own.

The reaction from the Tibetan people and the Cabinet shows how unprepared they are to conduct the business of government without the Dalai Lama and how much reliance they have piled up on His Holiness despite being in government for such a long time, during which time many newer democracies have flourished. We rarely see the CTA undertaking significant tasks on their own and we hear very little from them regarding how they are tackling real issues that the Tibetans are faced with. It is time for them to grow up and realize that regardless of what role His Holiness agrees to undertake, they will still need to stand on their own one day when the Dalai Lama chooses to pass on.

For a start the Sikyong and his Cabinet should look at reuniting the people of Tibet and draw into their fold  skills, knowledge and contacts of people that they have marginalized for some time.

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 11:29:06 AM »
The Dalai Lama has said on a number of occassions that he no longer wishes to be involved in Tibetan political and secular affairs. My guess is that His Holiness is quite aware of how irreversibly China views him as a threat and by removing himself, he is hoping that dialogue between the CTA and China can resume. In fact, in public at least, China's quarrel seems to be with His Holiness alone and the stance the Dalai Lama is perceived to have taken which in China's view, is dangerous to its efforts to pacify insurgence in a few sensitive border states. The mere presence and proximity of the Dalai Lama to Tibetan decision making apparatus is taken by the Chinese to mean that the Dalai Lama is still exerting influence and hence even the proposed ceremonial role has been rejected by His Holiness.

If that assumption is correct, it is interesting then, that His Holiness has not seen it fit to change his "image" vis-a-vis the Chinese Government's perception of him and instead has continued to antagonize the Chinese with his speeches and comments, often rubbing salt into China's already sore and sensitive human rights reputation. Perhaps the Dalai has been stating what he truly believes in, but in the spirit of democracy, he is prepared not to let his personal opinion jeapordize dialogue with China. It may also be that the Dalai Lama is provoking the Chinese to embrace Dorje Shugden is a bigger way as a means to counter him seeing that His Holiness has already stated clearly that the Shugden practice is the way to shorten his life, and is taken literally to be a clear step in opposing the Dalai Lama.

The question is how many people actually believe that the Dalai Lama will no longer influence Tibet's domestic and foreign policies and that his devolvement from politics is not a sleight of hand designed to let the Chinese guard down? The answer lies in how Sikyong Lobsang Sangay and the CTA respond to their new and enhanced responsibilities in making decisions, and even decisions that the Dalai Lama may not personally favour, but nevertheless will signal the CTA's maturity and readiness to meet challenges on its own.

The reaction from the Tibetan people and the Cabinet shows how unprepared they are to conduct the business of government without the Dalai Lama and how much reliance they have piled up on His Holiness despite being in government for such a long time, during which time many newer democracies have flourished. We rarely see the CTA undertaking significant tasks on their own and we hear very little from them regarding how they are tackling real issues that the Tibetans are faced with. It is time for them to grow up and realize that regardless of what role His Holiness agrees to undertake, they will still need to stand on their own one day when the Dalai Lama chooses to pass on.

For a start the Sikyong and his Cabinet should look at reuniting the people of Tibet and draw into their fold  skills, knowledge and contacts of people that they have marginalized for some time.

Whatever the Dalai Lama does is quickly undone by the CTA's habit of wanting to do things the easy way out. By easy way out, I mean by not working hard towards the independence and instead indulging in the Dorje Shugden ban which does not help anything with the Tibetan cause at all, as time has proved. How many years has it been since the ban and how is the progress? And everything becomes undone further when they do not say anything about the self immolations, the Kalon Tripa should stop prayer sessions for the self immolation victims and celebrate them as martyrs. They should just discourage that as it will only provoke China more and more.

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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »

Whatever the Dalai Lama does is quickly undone by the CTA's habit of wanting to do things the easy way out. By easy way out, I mean by not working hard towards the independence and instead indulging in the Dorje Shugden ban which does not help anything with the Tibetan cause at all, as time has proved. How many years has it been since the ban and how is the progress? And everything becomes undone further when they do not say anything about the self immolations, the Kalon Tripa should stop prayer sessions for the self immolation victims and celebrate them as martyrs. They should just discourage that as it will only provoke China more and more.

Ensapa, it wouldn't be so bad if the CTA is merely lazy but the CTA is dangerous when it takes the stance of glorifying suicides. What else does it say when the CTA approves of the Tibetan Youth Congress's building of a statue to honour a self immolator, if not to ennoble an act which is in truth, not only a waste of a precious life, but also counter-productively provokes China even more. An act which also happens to be against what the Dharma teaches. Incidentally this is the same TYC that has proven beyond doubt that they are quite capable of aggressively undertaking door-to-door campaigns as they did when they went on the witch-hunt for innocent Shugden worshippers. Why not deploy this eager resource towards something that can actually benefit the Tibetan people.

I really don't know if the CTA is actually instigating the self immolations but they might as well be. We see the levels to which they went to ban the Protector practice, with resolutions, public proclamations and "re-education" programmes that infiltrated monasteries, schools and all other levels of community and even sending people on campaigns to target households, and yet the Protector practice has never driven people to end their lives. And here we have an unhealthy practice of suicide that seems to be gaining momentum and instead of making the same effort, they seem to be waiting for more self immolations, hoping to reap political mileage against China. It has not worked at all.

Everything the CTA has accused Dorje Shugden of, is in fact exactly what they are practicing - encouraging people to have wrong views, splitting an already broken community, turning people away from the Dharma and slowly killing the Dalai Lama by grief. Where is their compassion?

What is the CTA's official stance on Tibet anyway? Are they pursuing a policy to [re]gain independence, are they settling for autonomy and if so, what are their demands which are tangible, reasonable and workable? What has the CTA produced and exported other than a legacy of lies and persecution? Have they raised the level of education and and living standards of the Tibetans in exile? Have they produced scholars and intellects who can represent the Tibetan Cause? The only real result anyone can see from the CTA from 50 years of being in government is a divided people, charred bodies and more rhetoric. It is really too bad because when you think about it, the Dalai Lama offered them the world stage to state their cause but instead they preferred to stay at home, kick down more doors, drag more people into the streets and tear down more statues.

If Tibetans in exile enjoy a true democracy as the CTA has insisted they do, then the people must take to the streets and protest their own government to take positive steps towards alleviating Tibetan problems and unite the people. It is really time for the CTA to start listening to its own people.