New website on Dorje Shugden?

[DharmaDefender]

Anyone seen this website before? Seems to be a one-off thing by Jamseng Rinpoches students? Well Im not sure if the site owner is his student or not, but seems to be cause he refers to himself (herself?) as being of the Green Sect?

Anyway copied and pasted here in case they decide to take down the website... its a bit rambly and makes for difficult reading. Im having difficulty making heads or tails of this piece... is it against or for Dorje Shugden? Some bits refer to the Dalai Lamas manifested hypocrisy but other parts refer to Dorje Shugden as Gyalpo and Dolgyal.

Odd.

http://polemicstodalailama.wordpress.com/

KADHAMPA ‘S DORJE SHUGDEN POLEMICS TO H.H.  THE 14TH DALAI LAMA

Good news !
On the 1st of February 2011, The Great Savior H.H. 14th Dalai Lama has once again given free promotion to the Founder of the Green Sect - H. E. Serkong Tritul Tulku ( also known as H. H. Kadham Trichen Rinpoche).
The Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama has bestowed Initiation of the 13 Deities of Vajrabhairava at the ?Note?Ganden Shartse Monastery?on the 5th of February, 2011. Normally when one is seeking empowerment, it is mandatory to establish a guru-and-disciple relationship.

The Green Sect (also known as Kadhampa Sect)’s right side assistant Abbot, H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, who is the incarnation of the Victorous Dromtönpa, (of Singaporean Chinese nationality: Wang Chee Chun) said :

“What The Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama has mentioned above did make sense! According to the tantra teachings, the beseecher of empowerment (to be refered to as?the beseecher?in short) must view the guru who has conferred him the empowerment as an actual Vajradh?ra; likewise, the guru must also treat his disciple as his most closest confidant.
Hence, the guru must observe whether the seeker of the empowerment is a qualified vessel for the empowerment; and the beseecher must examine carefully if one can abide by the precepts and vows. If the criterias are not fulfilled, even if one has attended the empowerment ceremony, the empowerment will not be acquired, instead one shall be definitely headed to the Vajra Hell.

However, the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama obviously knew that the majority of those people who bought tickets to attend His Holiness’s empowerment ceremony would not abide by the precepts and vows, then how could they establish the relationships between the guru and disciples based on the pure precepts and vows ?

In addition, the majority of the attendees of the empowerment ceremony criticized that not only were the tickets too expensive, they were also unable to receive even the slightest form of blessings etc; hence they expressed regret for going to the empowerment.

After a series of inquisitions into H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama ‘s “foremost” Japanese disciple, the notorious cult leader Shoko Asahara (born as Chizuo Matsumoto, on 2nd of March, 1955) ‘s ferocious massacre and other atrocities, which led to many people criticizing the precepts and vows of Vajray?na Buddhism.

Therefore, we the Green Sect is asking H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama that when you consecrated empowerments to?Shoko Asahara? and your other “foremost” disciples, did Your Holiness (H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama referred as ?Your Holiness”) examine whether a prospect is a qualified vessel for empowerment, or were you just looking at the ” face” value of the US dollars, and just messing around with Tantric practices instead ?

Furthermore, was your style of imploring the empowerment from your lineage gurus also similar to the way of how?Shoko Asahara?seeking empowerment from you ?

It is commonly understood that Your Holiness ‘s lineage gurus included H.H. Tadrak Rinpoche (H.H. 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche), H.E. Trijang Rinpoche (H.E. 3rd Trijang Rinpoche), H.H. Ling Rinpoche (H.H. 6th Ling Rinpoche) and other gurus who adhered to Dorje Shugden, and those who have consecrated the highest tantric yoga – 13 deity Vajrabhairava to Your Holiness; they would not just conferred the tantric and sutric teachings to you solely for the sake of eyeing after your fame and wealth !

Because they were Your Holiness’s ancestral gurus, and commonly known as the foremost disciples of H.E. Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo ( H.E. Pabongka Rinpoche) as well as the propiatiators of Dorje Shugden.

Thus, it was heard that all of them had been trained by H.E. Pabongka Rinpoche in accordance to the Lamrim Chenmo to become gurus who neither care for fame nor wealth, but instead day and night six time only think of how to liberate the sufferers of pain through Dharma, and to swiftly emancipate them from sufferings and to help them to attain happiness, as well as to pray for Buddhism to last for eternity. They also constantly meditated on blending the mind into their dharma practices, they were true great practitioners of the Kadhampa School.

Henceforth, they were not stingy with their lineage transmission of Dharma teachings and has passed most of them to Your Holiness, in the anticipation that Your Holiness could propagate the Dharma accordingly, as well as to preserve the longevity of Buddhism. However Your Holiness was spreading the Dharma teachings passed down from your gurus to you, but simultaneously you were condemning them (the same Gurus) for defiling their vows, was it right to do so ?

Your Holiness also undersstood that all your Gelug sect gurus were the adherents of the Great King Dorje Possessing Strength (Dorje Shugden), then why are you still propogating the “teachings of these gurus ” with corrupted vows (associated with your previous generations) extensively ?

Could it be that except a list of all these gurus as below, namely :
?Note?H.E. The 2nd Pabongka RinpocheDechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo(1878~1941),
H.H. The 1st Trijang Rinpoche Losang Tsultrim Palden (1756~1838),
H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe (1901~1981),
H.E. The 2nd Serkong Dorje Chang Thubten Tsultrim Ngawang Donden(1856~1918),
H.H. The 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche Ngawang Sungrab (1874~1952),
H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinlé (1903~1983),
H.E. The 2nd Gomang Khangsar Rinpoche
H.E. The 4th Dagpo Rinpoche Pema Dorje(1876~1936),
H.E. Gomang Kachen
H.E. The 2nd Gomang Phul Dhue Losang Yeshe Tenmay (1874~1918)?
Except all the above lineage gurus ( who were devout worshippers of Dorje Shugden) and their descendents, you have no other dharma teachings from other masters where you can propagate extensively ?
Through the media we knew that you have granted the Highest Tantric Yoga Deity- K?lachakra empowerment, this particular tantric teaching was transmitted from your ancestral guru H.E. the 2nd Serkong Dorje Chang (who beheld Dorje Shugden as the Holder of the Vajra Scepter ) to Your Holiness’s ancestral guru H.E. the 2nd Gomang Khangsar Rinpoche, who in turn transmitted to Your Holiness’s root guru of three kindness, H.H. the 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinlé. There after, from H.H. the 6th Ling Rinpoche it was bestowed upon you, was it ?

If this was true then, it is incomprehensible that why are you still disseminating the Dharma teachings from these gurus with polluted vows associated with your previous generations, and then hurt these other innocent people who followed you ?

If these gurus’ teachings were so corrupted with defiled vows, why is Your Holiness still repeatedly spreading them, what intentions are you harbouring ? Could it be possible that these gurus’ vows were untainted after all ?

Through the media, it was known that those dharma teachings that Your Holiness had been imparting, including the King of Father Tantras – the 32-Deity Guhyasam?ja, the King of Mother Tantras – the 62-Deity Cakrasambara, the King of tantras – the 13-Deity Vajrabhairava and Solitary Vajrabhairava, Vajrayogin?, and other transmissions that were consecrated by Your Holiness’s ancestral guru H.E. the 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo to Your Holiness’s root guru of three kindness (who also revered Great King Dorje Shugden as the emanation of Buddha Manjushri); namely H.E. the 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe, H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinley, H.H. The 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche Ngawang Sungrab ( Regent of Tibet), these three or either one of these three gurus had transmitted the above highest tantric teachings to Your Holiness, correct ?

We the Green Sect first prostrate three times at this point, and with great reverence we ask of you, the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama with great benevolence and compassion, to explain clearly to all those people whether they are Your Holiness ‘s followers or non-followers, that the transmissions of Dharma teachings conferred by the above mentioned gurus; whether was it bestowed with blessings, whether it was untainted with pure vows, and finally could it be practised ?

If it is bestowed with blessings, if it is stainless, then undeniably Dorje Shugden deserved the biggest credit ?

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama, that besides the Yellow Sect (Gelugpa) lineage transmissions that Your Holiness had received from these gurus, why there was no other transmission of teachings from other Gelug Masters ?

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, why was Your Holiness ‘ Sakya Sect guru – H.E. Chopgyal Trichen Rinpoche, not only a disciple of your ancestral guru H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo, but also a disciple of Your Holiness’ two root gurus of three kindness, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe, and H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinley ?

If so, H.E. Chobgyal Trichen Rinpoche’s foremost disciple, the Head of the Sakya Sect – H.H. Sakya Trizin Dharmaraja, and all other Sakya Sect followers who became these gurus’ ( H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche and H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche & H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche) descendents, were they also contaminated with defiled vows ?

Why so ? Because H.E. Chobgyal Trichen Rinpoche ‘s three gurus (as mentioned above) were the descendents of H.E. The 4th Dagpo Rinpoche Pema Dorje (a devout practictioner of Dorje Shugden as well).

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, that Your Holiness’ Nyingma Sect guru – H.E. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, was not only a disciple of Your Holiness’ root guru of three kindness, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe, but also a disciple of Your Holiness’s root guru of three kindness, H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinley as well ?

If so, H.E. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche’s foremost disciples of the Nyingma Sect, H.E. Penor Rinpoche, H.E. Trulshik Rinpoche, H.E. Mindrolling Trichen Rinpoche and all other Nyingma Sect followers who became (H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche and H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche)’s descendents, have their vows been defiled as well ?

Since H.E. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche’s two gurus (H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche and H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche), were both wishfulfilling jewel disciples of H.E. The 4th Dagpo Rinpoche Pema Dorje & H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo, who were also the adherents of Dorje Shugden.

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, why those famous gurus from Kagyu Sect, namely H.E. Kalu Rinpoche, H.E. Thrangu Rinpoche and H.E. Tenga Rinpoche, and many other Kagyu masters, were also the disciples of Your Holiness’ two root gurus of three kindness, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche ?

Therefore, all the Kagyu Sect followers who became the descendents of H.E. Kalu Rinpoche, H.E. Thrangu Rinpoche and H.E. Tenga Rinpoche, as a result they were also tarnished with defiled vows ?

It was so because the two gurus (H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche) of all three Kagyu Sect Rinpoches namely (H.E. Kalu Rinpoche, H.E. Thrangu Rinpoche, and H.E. Tenga Rinpoche); were both wishfulfilling jewel disciples of H.E. The 4th Dagpo Rinpoche Pema Dorje, and H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo, who were the propitiators of Dorje Shugden.

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama, for those who have ever listened to your Dharma teachings or received empowerment from you, have they also become tainted with corrupted vows as well ?
How so ? Because the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama’s root gurus of three kindness, H.H. The 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche Ngawang Sungrab, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe, and H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinley were all wishfulfilling jewel disciples of H.E. The 4th Dagpo Rinpoche Pema Dorje and H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo ( who both revered Dorje Shugden as the emanation of Buddha Manjushri ).

H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama said : “As for those people who have ever listened to my explanations on Dharma teachings, it is alright for them if they don’t acknowledge it as guru-and-disciple relationship.”

H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victorous Dromtönpa, who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect asked : “May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, that besides from receiving tantric empowerment, one does not have to recognize one’s guru after one has listened to his other dharma teachings ?”

Because our analysis of the meaning of your conclusive sentence :- “You don’t have to acknowledge it as a guru & disciple relationship” is denying the existence of the guru & disciple relationship. But we the Green Sect’s principle differs vastly from Your Holiness; regardless of any guru who preaches sutras or tantras, once a person has partaken in any dharma session, then a guru-disciple relationship has been established. This principle is not only embraced by our Green Sect (Kadhampa), even the Yellow Sect (Gelugpa), the Kagyu Sect, the Sakya Sect and the Nyingma sect also practise it accordingly.”

H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama said : “If one needs to establish the guru-disciple relationship and to seek for those practices’ protocols (samaya and rules), it is unacceptable to not keep the vows pure.”

H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victorious Dromtönpa, who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect said :
* May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, may Your Holiness give a lucid explanation as to whether your vows are pure ?
* Has Your Holiness ever unpleasantly acted against your root guru – H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe ?
* Has Your Holiness ever criticized your guru H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and your ancestral guru- H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo that their many behaviours were against the Buddha Dharma, etc ?
* Should a disciple be considered of keeping pure vows if he views his own guru was acting against the Buddha Dharma ?
* Are Your Holiness’s guru- H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and your ancestral guru -H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo, both not fully qualified and enlightened spiritual guides ?”

H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama said :
“Therefore, I have always said this, those?note?people?after adhering to Gyalpo Shugden?note?King Possessing Strength (Dorje Shugden)?for a certain period of time, since the beginning of the 5th Sovereign?note?H.H. the 5th Dalai Lama?onwards, ?note?the history has ?clearly reflected that during the previous generations of Gyalwa?note?the Victor?that their vows were mixed ?note?impure?.”

H.E . The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victorous Dromtönpa, who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect, asked :
“May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama, that could it be possible that from H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama onwards, all those people who revered Gyalpo Shugden (King Possessing Strength (Dorje Shugden)), have become tainted with defiled vows ?

If their vows were defiled, how could H.H. The 1st Trijang Rinpoche Losang Tsultrim Palden and many other well- known Gelug Dharmar?jas become the principal root gurus of the Great Saviour H.H. The 9th Dalai Lama and the Great Saviour H.H. The 10th Dalai Lama ?

Moreover, why did H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and H.H. The 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche Ngawang Sungrab and others all become Your Holiness’s prominent gurus ?
Could it be that besides adhering to those gurus who propitiated Dorje Shugden, Your Holiness was unable to find any other better gurus in this world ?

Since Your Holiness obviously knew that those gurus who adhered to Gyalpo Shugden have stained vows, therefore you still intentionally disseminated their teachings extensively to harm those disciples that were following you, was it right ?

We hereby with utmost reverence postulate the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, even though we understood that you had received the empowerment of the Kadhampa 16 droplets Mandala from H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe, however Your Holiness can emulate H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama whereby he was directly bestowed with all the Kadhampa’s lineage transmission from the Victor Dromtönpa ( the second generation lineage guru of Kadhampa), especially on the Kadhampa faction ‘s most precious tantric teachings- The Kadhampa 16 Droplets Mandala, so that Your Holiness can forsake those lineage transmissions from those gurus who adhered to Dorje Shugden. Since everyone addresses you as the reincarnation of the Victorous Dromtönpa, therefore it would be best if Your Holiness can extensively propagate the Kadhampa faction, and induce all those disciples who pledged to mainly follow the three prominent monasteries of your Gelug Sect to specialize in the practice of the supreme gem of Kadhampa – the Kadhampa’s 16 Droplets Mandala.

Since Your Holiness knows, we know, the celestial realm knows, the earth knows; that from the Great Saviour H.H. The 1st Dalai Lama until the Great Saviour H.H. The 13th Dalai Lama also had not been successful in overthrowing the Gelug Sect, but Your Holiness has well-prepared long time ago, have you not ?

Now, the time has come for you to overthrow the Gelug Sect !

Shouldn’t Your Holiness pursue your most beloved Old Kadhampa faction which was thrived and prospered under your previous incarnation the Victor Dromtönpa, and now it has been re-established by H.H. Kadham Trichen Rinpoche (H.E. Serkong Tritul Tulku) ?

Your Holiness should test those entourages and disciples who are following you, would they still be loyal to you or not ?

If those people are truly loyal to Your Holiness, not only can you wipe out the power of influences of those Gelug disciples who were extremely devoted towards Dorje Shugden faction, you can also thoroughly destroy the Gelugpa Sect, and distance yourself from the Gyalpo Shugden faction and the New Kadhampa Sect forever.

Or else, within the next 20 to 30 years, not only will all the Yellow Sect disciples propitiate Dorje Shugden – the uncommon dharmap?la (dharma protector) of the Yellow Sect, but they will also disseminate extensively the uncommon Dharma teachings of the Yellow Sect such as Lamrim Chenmo by the Conqueror Tsongkhapa. By that time, the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama would be likened to the King- Fuchai of Wu (the last king of Wu, a state in ancient China), Hegemon-King Xiang Yu (prominent military leader and political figure engaged in a long struggle for power that concluded his life with defeat and suicide at the bank of the Wu River), Gung Ye – King of Taebong ( king of the short-lived Hugoguryeo), the Chongzhen Emperor of the Ming Dynasty (the last emperor of the Ming Dynasty in China), Puyi – Emperor of the Qing Dynasty (final member of the Manchu Qing Dynasty to rule over China) etc.
Those Gelug disciples who will rebel against Your Holiness would be likened to the King Goujian of Yue, Liu Bang – the Emperor Gaozu of the great Han Dynasty, Wang Geon- Taejo of Goryeo, and Huang Taiji – Emperor of the Qing Dynasty etc.

Therefore, it would be best if Your Holiness can swiftly join your favorite-the re-established Old Kadhampa Sect. If Your Holiness can oblige as we urged, not only can you distance yourself from the unpleasant historical events of the Great Saviour H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama and all those previous generations of the Dalai Lama, not only Your Holiness would become a renowned guru of the Old Kadhampa but also you will propel the continuance of the Green Sect for a million years !

Thus, the 5th Conqueror?note: (H.H. the 5th Dalai Lama)?said :

“That Dolgyal?note : King Possessing Strength (Dorje Shugden)?is a nefarious wishing, malevolent spirit, demon, a peril to Sect ?note?Buddhist Sect?and sentient beings. Thus, the characteristic of (his) cause (is)nefarious wishing, …”

H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victor Dromtönpa, who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect :

“May we ask the Your Holiness that the Great Saviour H.H The 5th Dalai Lama had mentioned that Dorje Shugden was harbored with demonic wishes, was it true ?

However, it is commonly known that the majority of those gurus who worshipped Dorje Shugden were not only keeping their vinaya and vows pure, they were also macrobiotic, healthy, prosperous, brimming with joy. Especially those principal dharma teachings of the Yellow Sect spreading all across the world were mostly coming from those gurus, was it not true ?

It was heard from Your Holiness’s guru of the greatest kindness, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe that although the previous incarnation of Dorje Shugden was murdered by the Great Saviour H.H The 5th Dalai Lama’s most trusted disciple, not only did he not hate those people, instead he loved them even more, was he not ?

It was heard that the Great Saviour H.H the 5th Dalai Lama had also inaugurated the constructions of five blocks of monasteries in Lhasa and other places, especially for worshipping Dorje Shugden, had he not ?

If Dorje Shugden was filled with devilish motives, why did the Great Saviour H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama still want to worship Dorje Shugden in the first place ?

Could it be possible that the Great Saviour H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama could not triumph over Your Holiness’ old rival – Dorje Shugden, therefore Your Holiness have to surrender yourself ?
Ø Could it be that the short lifespan and tragic ending of the Great Saviour H.H The 6th Dalai Lama’s (1683~1707)was instigated by Dorje Shugden’s malevolent wishes ?
Ø Could it be that the short lifespan of the Great Saviour H.H. The 7th Dalai Lama (1708~1757) was caused by Dorje Shugden’s nefarious motives ?
Ø Could it be that the short lifespans and great misfortune of the Great Saviour H.H The 8th Dalai Lama (1758~1804), H.H The 9th Dalai Lama (1806~1815), H.H. The 10th Dalai Lama (1816~1837), H.H The 11th Dalai Lama’s (1838~1855), and H.H the 12th Dalai Lama’s (1856~1875), were all attributed to Dorje Shugden ’s demonic wishes ?
Ø Could it be that the Great Saviour H.H The 13th Dalai Lama (1876~1933)who has lived a tragic short life that when he fled to North to seek shelter from the Mongolian King – Khalkha Rinpoche(Khalkha Jetsun Dampa), who was also his disciple; H.H. The 13th Dalai Lama was bullied and humiliated by his own disciple -the Mongolian King Khalkha Rinpoche. Again when he fled to South to seek protection in India, he was bullied by the English and Indians etc this time, and he had suffered all those humiliations that even the Tibetans could not tolerate at that time, were all these misfortunes also accoutable to Dorje Shugden ‘s evil wishes ?
Ø Could it be possible that the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama (1935~) who until now is still healthy, aspired to extensively benefitting sentient beings, was this attributed to Dorje Shugden ’s nefarious wishes ?

Because from the Great Saviour H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama onwards, among Your Holiness’ successive generations of the Dalai Lama, H.H.The 14th Dalai Lama was the only one who openly declared propitiating to Dorje Shugden for 24 years (1951~1975). We would have no way of knowing any issues regarding Dorje Shugden ‘s veneration if it has not been publicly announced after 1975.

However through Your Holiness’ s root guru of the greatest kindness, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe’s Biography, we all know that previously, every time when Your Holiness encountered crisis, it was Dorje Shugden and other dharmap?las who eradicated the obstacles and turned around the adversities for you, wasn’t it ?

If not, then is your guru of the greatest kindness, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe a big charlatan ?

If Your Holiness’s guru of the greatest kindness, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe is a big charlatan, then wouldn’t it included the descendents of disciples of the five major Sects -Red (Nyingma), Green (Kadhampa), Flower (Sakya), White (Kagyu), Yellow (Gelugpa), and Your Holiness are all charlatans as well ?

Why besides the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama and H.H. The 7th Dalai Lama, there was no other Dalai Lama, ranging from the Great Saviour H.H The 5th Dalai Lama until the Great Saviour H.H. The 13th Dalai Lama; who can make any major and massive contributions to Buddhism collectively as a whole, especially to the Yellow Sect ?

Was it because the correct motives of the Great Saviour H.H The 5th Dalai Lama until the Great Saviour H.H The 13th Dalai Lama were all robbed by that Dorje Shugden with demonic wishes ?

If so, wouldn’t it seem that based on history, those people who propitiated Dorje Shugden have contributed the most to the overall alliances of Buddhism, and especially to the lineage of the Gelugpa School ?

We ask if Your Holiness ‘s Gelugpa’s dharmap?la -Dorje Shugden’s evil wishes caused his believers to maintain pure oaths, to conduct themselves humbly, to firmly believe in the cause and effect of karma, and to regard one’s guru as an actual Buddha etc ?

It seems that the majority of those people who treated their own gurus as Buddha, they treasure the Tantric samaya, Bodhisattva precepts, Pratimosha vows etc more than their lives, they were more mindful on the subtleties of cause and effect of karma, they love their enemies more dearly than their parents etc.

We ask why the majority of the disciples who followed the Great Saviour H.H The 14th Dalai Lama did not behave humbly, not only that, they were also not mindful on the subtleties of the cause and effect of karma. Your Holiness ‘s disciples also learnt from you to keep finding faults on your own gurus; and once they have completed their studies, they did not seek enlightenment instead they only pursued after the positions as abbots of major monasteries etc.
Were these accomplished through Your Holiness’s “correct motives” ?
May we ask why did those monks who follow you, slaughtered and fought with one another at the Sera May Monastery in India a few years ago, and engaged in unceasing illicit sexual scandals ?

At Drepung Monastery, there were monks bullying, humiliating and flogging monks. However, Your Holiness has commanded that the monk who imposed the whipping on other monks not to be punished; instead he was appointed as a Drepung Gomang Abbot. Furthermore, it was quite common at Drepung Gomang College to see monks fighting and slandering one another, indulging in sexual intercourse and other misconducts.

Gaden Shartse Monastery’s former Chenmo-la (Chant Master) was also involved with Your Holiness’s nun and got her pregnant (even though separated by underpants). Within the sangha communities, there were many other unceasing sexual scandals, constant physical battles and libels with one another.

At the Ganden Jangtse Monastery, apparently the reincarnation of Your Holiness’s guru was engaged in forbidden sexual acitivites incessantly, and there were also endless physical tortures and nailings among each other along with many other misconducts !

Are those misconducts also accomplished by the nefarious wishes of Dorje Shugden ?

H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama said :

“…the characteristic of?his?nature?is?malevolent spirit, demon, …”

H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victor Dromtönpa, who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect said :

“May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, do you admit that the main characteristic of Dorje Shugden’s nature is that of a malevolent spirit, demon ?

Could it be that the reason Your Holiness admitted was due to your pursuing the Great Saviour His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama ‘s interpretation ?
Or you simply admitted because you saw it with your (Jnana) wise eyes ?

If by using your (Jnana) wise eyes, you saw Dorje Shugden as a malevolent spirit/demon then why couldn’t Your Holiness see issues like those Tibetans who followed you has suffered a great deal ?

May we ask why did Your Holiness’ gurus say that Dorje Shugden was the emanation of Buddha Manjushri ?

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama, have you truly attained the complete enlightened state of a Buddha ?

Since Your Holiness have surpassed your own root gurus who saw Dorje Shugden as the emanation of Buddha Manjushri, instead you saw beyond what they have seen, that Dorje Shugden was a cunning ghost, have you not ?

Unless one has attained the complete enlightenment of a Buddha, no one can judge the state of another sentient being, was it not true ?

Nevertheless, whether Dorje Shugden is a spirit or an enlightened deity has nothing to do with our Green Sect, but rather it is an internal scandal among the Gelug Sect as well as Your Holiness’ guru and disciple’s crisis, was it not?

H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama said:
“ The characteristic of?Dorje Shugden ‘s?deeds ?is?to jeopardize ?Buddhist Sect?and other sentient beings.”

H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victor Dromtönpa, who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect:

“May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama that nowadays the devotees of the existing 5 major sects (including the Green Sect) of Tantric Buddhism at present, are they not all the descendents of those gurus (His Holiness ‘ gurus) who revered Dorje Shugden ?

If this is so, not only has Dorje Shugden not endangered the Buddhist Sect, but rather Dogyal has propelled the 5 major sects of Tantric Buddhism (including the Green Sect) to flourish in the ten directions, isn’t it so ?

Excuse me, but I am suspicious over these issues, may we ask if Your Holiness was talking topsy-turvy baloney after all ?

Nevertheless from any and every perspective, it is obvious that Dorje Shugden has contributed the most to the prosperity of Buddhism, especially towards the five major sects.

May we ask Your Holiness has Dorje Shugden ever harmed anyone ?

Did Your Holiness insinuate those people who performed the wrathful fire puja intended to destroy Dorje Shugden, but they immediately encountered disasters and died ?

Or is Your Holiness insinuating H.E. Serkong Tsenshab Rinpoche, a traitor who deceived his own root guru of great kindness- H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinlé, and then died immediately from infection of dysentery in a massive pool of his own feces; as a result of slandering his gurus and abandoning Dorje Shugden that he had once believed, were these plagued by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask that Your Holiness’s first and foremost guru, one of the highest ranking of Living Buddha (Rinpoche), H.H. The 5th Reting Rinpoche who rebelled against his root gurus H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo and H.H. The 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche Ngawang Sungrab, and he also abandoned Dorje Shugden that he once adhered to and died in prison at an early age, were these perils caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask that Your Holiness’s previous life guru, H.H. The 12th Kundeling Rinpoche, who reincarnated as one of Yellow Sect’s first ranking of Living Buddha (Rinpoche), who confronted all sorts of chagrin; and died at an early age in Kolkata(formerly known as Calcutta) in India, whereby his corpse was left unattended, let alone by his own relatives; as a result of his betrayal of his root guru of kindness – H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe as well as his abandonment of Dorje Shugden that he had once adhered to, were these mishaps caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask that Your Holiness’s niece, nephew, and your sister’s husband all died in fatal car accidents with missing scattered bodies in pieces, were these casualties also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask H.H. The 13th Dalai Lama’s guru- H.H. The 8th Demo Rinpoche who reincarnated as one of Gelugpa’s first ranking of Living Buddha (Rinpoche), who had died aggrieved under Your Holiness ‘ grisly execution of utmost gruesome physical torture, Your Holiness even commanded that his Tengyeling Monastery to be razed flat onto the ground as a result, were these calamities also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama complained repeatedly that the news of H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama’s death was only released officially after fifteen years later, and that Your Holiness’ Prime Minister- H.E. Desi Sangye Gyatso was beheaded and encountered all kinds of catastrophes, were these perils also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that the Great Saviour H.H The 13th Dalai Lama had assigned H.H. The 9th Panchen Lama to be assassinated, which later led him to survive a trail of vagrant life, he was also bombarded with all kinds of disasters and died aggrieved at the end, were these mishaps also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness’ entourages of lamas and rinpoches who contracted all kinds of virulent diseases including cancer and died with remorse, should Dorje Shugden accountable for these woes ?

May we ask Your Holiness that your entourages of lamas, who seized the properties and the land of Ganden Jangtse Buddhist Monastery, and later threw out the patriarch and contributors, was this unjust distress also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that although you are a frequent proponent of world peace and loving compassion, but for those Gelugpas who hold different views from you, you persecute them to death with the issuance of death threats, were these tribulations also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that your followers like those lamas or lay disciples who owned hospitals or clinics but refused to admit those patients who were the followers of Dorje Shugden, were these miseries also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that your entourages of lamas or householders (lay disciples) who owned restaurants or shops also rejected those customers who were the adherents of Dorje Shugden, were these commotions also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that your followers of lamas and householders (lay disciples) with transport utilities rejected those customers who were the adherents of Dorje Shugden, were these turmoils also caused by that Great King Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that your guru of the greatest kindness, H.E. the 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe (1901~1981) who lived happily, healthily, brimming with joy of dharma everyday until the age of eighty, who even sang songs of The stages of the Path prior to dying, and eventually passed away freely with ease, were these ” degradations” also caused by the Great King Dorje Shugden ?

Those people who propitiated Dorje Shugden, including

H.H. The 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche Ngawang Sungrab (1874~1952),

H.H. The 1st Trijang Rinpoche Losang Tsultrim Palden (1756~1838),

H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe(1901~1981),

H.E. The 3rd Zong Rinpoche Zongtrul Jetsun Losang Tsondru Thubten Gyaltsen (1905~1984),

The 99th Gaden Tripa – H.H. Yeshe Dönden Rinpoche (1918~1995),

H.E. Guru Deva Rinpoche Lobsang Tenzin Gyatso Pal Zangpo (1910~2009)

and many other lamas, who passed away unrestrained by the bardo of birth-and-death, were these ” woes” also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

Surviving until these day are those eminent lamas of the Yellow Sect, with over eighty years of age, including the 101th Gaden Tripa – H.E. Lungri Namgye Rinpoche (1927~), the relinquished abbot of Gyumé Dra-tsang (lower tantra college) H.E. Sonam Gyaltsen Rinpoche and other adherents of Dorje Shugden who are living healthily, happily, brimming with joy of dharma, and many leading days of good fortune and happiness; are these ” miseries” also caused by Dorje Shugden ?

H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama said,
“I used to adhere to Dorje Shugden, that was a mistake.”

H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victorous Dromtönpa,who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect:

“May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, why did you say that your adherence to Dorje Shugden was a mistake ?

Because from the Great Saviour H.H The 5th Dalai Lama onwards, among all the successive generations of the Dalai Lama, Your Holiness has lived the longest, the healthiest, the most glorious of all. From 1951 to 1975, Your Holiness fervently adhered to Dorje Shugden, and you still have not completely given up adhering to Dorje Shugden from 1975 until 1995, in 1989 Your Holiness was awarded the Nobel Prize, wasn’t it ?

Thus, ?note? adhering Dorje Shugden?was accused as a malevolent spirit, demon, nefarious wishes, perilous to Sect?note?Buddhist Sect?and sentient beings.

?note?It was absurd?the previous incarnate of His Excellency ?note?H.H. the 13th Dalai Lama?also continued with interdicts against Dorje Shugden.

There was a story conveyed that under the old Tibetan system, a teacher who taught essay writings on Dharma was deployed from Mindrolling Monastery?note?Nyingma Sect?to the Peak School?note?inside Potala Palace?. The previous incarnate His Excellency ?note?H.H. the 13th Dalai Lama?was extremely fond of the Teacher that was assigned to him, that teacher frequently sought audience?note?with H.H. the 13th Dalai Lama?. One day on his way to visit H.H. the 13th Dalai Lama, that teacher has met a friend who appeared to be the Secretary of the Peak School, so the Secretary entrusted that Teacher to bring along a scroll of thangka to request?note?H.H. the 13th Dalai Lama?for consecration.

The teacher proceeded to seek audience with His Excellency without unscrolling the thangka. When he asked His Excellency for the consecration, His Excellency said, “unscrolled the thangka!” When the thangka was unscrolled, a portrait of Dolgyal (Dorje Shugden) was revealed. Hence, His Excellency was extremely displeased and ordered that thangka to be taken away?note?rolled up and sent back to that person?. His Excellency reprimanded severely, so that Mindrolling teacher was extremely frightened and told his friend, who also knew the story (history); thus it was clear that this was the beginning of a strict ban on Dorje Shugden.

Therefore, the wrong doer was me ( implied H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama), I headed to Tromo?note?county?in year 51?note?Year 1951?, I arrived at the Dungkar?note?White Conch?Monastery in Tromo. Since my arrival at the Dungkar Monastery,?note?H.H.The 14th Dalai Lama? I believed in Dolgyal until the 70s?note?Year 1975?. In the ?note?beginning of year 1970?, my suspicions grew. In brief, as long as there were some unfavorable circumstances arising against me ?note?unlucky incidents?; I performed the dough rite (whereby the dough is used for divination), as I gradually observed, I gave up finally; anyway it was not necessary to elaborate, every oath is inclined towards contamination.

H.E. The 18th Dromcheng Rinpoche, the profession incarnation of the Victorous Dromtönpa, who is the right side assistant Abbot of the Green Sect,

“May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama that in the beginning of the year 1970, what kind of unfavorable incidents had arisen against your wishes in your life time ? “

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama that in the future presumably in the coming year of 2013 or 2014, should Your Holiness abandon your long term Dharma practice and change to another religion when unfortunate conditions arising against your wishes ?

Since the human life is similar to a series of drama, everyone invariably encounters many aggravating conditions against one’s desires, so may we ask Your Holiness that whether one should forsake one’s original religious belief or to desert the wife and leave the husband, is this right cause of action to be taken ?

May we ask the Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, since the year of 1975 onwards, were you encompassed with more favorable conditions than before you venerated Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness, if in the future should Your Holiness plague with severe diseases and endure long term sufferings, would you forsake long term adherence to Palden Lhamo, Mah?k?la, Kalarupa (Yama Dharmaraja), Vai?ravana etc including the three gems ?

Because in our human life, it is the most unfortunate for one to be burdened with long term illnesses, no matter which religion one has faith in, or to which god one has adhered with, therefore it is useless; as it is impossible to escape the four sufferings (birth, aging, sickness, and death) and adversities, isn’t it so?

Should one blame his own misfortunes and not think about one’s karma ?

May we ask Your Holiness, that on the 10th and 25th of every lunar month, do you perform what an Anuttarayoga Tantric practitioner should do – that is making Tsog Offerings ?

If Tsog Offerings were being made, then Your Holiness was still propitiating Great King Dorje Shugden ?

Why so ? Because if Great King Dorje Shugden is not a Buddha, he surely must be a Bodhisattva; if he is not a Bodhisattva, then he is a non-Bodhisattva sentient being, thus when you were making offerings, the first offering – to the guru, second offering – to the yidam deity, third offering -to the Three Gems, fourth offering- to the d?kin? dharmap?la, fifth offering- to all mother sentient beings, was it not?

From this logical reasoning, we can contend that Your Holiness has never really forsaken the Great King Dorje Possessing Strength- Dorje Shugden ?

May we ask Your Holiness that if you are a Buddha, will you abandon any sentient being?

If Your Holiness is a Bodhisattva, you will also not abandon any sentient being, will you ?

If you are neither a Buddha nor a Bodhisattva, then it is acceptable to abandon sentient beings and to seek revenge.

Therefore, how can we blame a mortal or secular folk, can we ?

May we ask Your Holiness that previously when you venerated Great King Dorje Shugden, during those time frame did he cause your vows to be stained ?

Because you have mentioned that the vows of any followers of Great King Dorje Shugden was inclined towards contamination, have you not ?

May we ask Your Holiness that after you denounced the practices of Dorje Shugden, what school of Dharma teachings that you have undertaken can possibly assure that your vows are untarnished ?

Or until now Your Holiness still has not found any school of teachings that can make your vows chaste ? Or Your Holiness has gone through self-initiation into the mandala to purify your vows ?

If one’s vows has been tarnished, then one cannot confer empowerment to others, have you not ?

If the vows are purified by means of self-initiation into the mandala, still those lineage transmissions of yours cannot separate itself from the lineage transmissions of those who adhered to the Great King Dorje Shugden faction.
Thus, from whatever perspective, Your Holiness was so fond of adhering to the Great King Dorje Possessing Strength faction, wasn’t it ?

May we ask Your Holiness that why were you so obedient to the advice of H.H. Kadham Trichen Rinpoche ?

It was rumoured that in the beginning of February this year 2011, when Your Holiness went to the Ganden Monastery in Southern India, you did not go to pay homage to the st?pa of your root guru of the greatest kindness-H.E. the 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe. Wasn’t it ?

If this was true that you did not go and pay homage to the st?pa of your guru of greatest kindness H.E. the 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe, then we the Green Sect, congratulate you from the bottom of our hearts for forsaking your guru and dharmap?la (dharma protector), and we look forward to your overthrowing rapidly and successfully those adherents of the Great King Dorje Shugden faction, including H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo, and his foremost disciples H.H. The 6th Ling Rinpoche Thupten Lungtok Namgyal Trinlé, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and all their descendents of all the Yellow Sect followers completely, and lead them all to convert to the Old Kadhampa that your previous incarnate Dromtönpa have founded.

Because the return of the Great Victor Atisha as H.H. Kadham Trichen Rinpoche has completely revitalized the Old Kadhampa faction and awaited Your Holiness, the reincarnation of the Victor Dromtönpa; to inherit the Old Kadhampa sect.

Moreover, the statues of Conqueror Tsongkhapa and his two other Spiritual Sons (Gyaltsabje and Khädrubje), which were originally placed in the main halls of the Gelugpa Sect’s three major monasteries, had been replaced with the statues of Lord Shakyamuni Buddha by Your Holiness long ago, was it not ?

Because those lamas from the three major monasteries who supported Your Holiness and yourself had reaffirmed the prat?tyasamutp?da (dependent arising) of the destruction of the Yellow Sect together, was it not ?

Hence, now is this is the best time to let those entourages of yours to convert to another Sect.
These few years although Your Holiness has actively propagated the teachings of the Kadhampa’s 16 Droplets of Mandala, but the majority of the participants did not focus on their practices specifically, they even have no idea what kind of transmissions Your Holiness had passed on to them, was it not ?

Therefore, as long as those people who are willing to follow Your Holiness, disregards of their beliefs in any religions, you should bring them all to our Old Kadhampa !

Because in our Old Kadhampa faction, there was no record of any history of venerating Dorje Shugden. In addition, as from 1st of January 2008, H.H. Kadham Trichen Rinpoche has repeatedly prohibited Kadhampa from propitiating Dorje Shugden, let alone those other non-Kadhampa Sects’ dharmapalas including Nechung, Gadong etc which have completely been banned.

Therefore should Your Holiness please consider seriously on this proposition of coming back to burden the responsibility of Old Kadhampa faction, and to distance yourself away from the Sect of the Great Saviour H.H The 5th Dalai Lama onwards and your successive generations of the Dalai Lama.

If Your Holiness would only join Old Kadhampa in your next life, there shall be no major achievement to be accomplished since Your Holiness has neither political resources nor profound scholarly knowledge. Due to reality, Old Kadhampa faction can only offer you a position as the highest ranking Living Buddha (Rinpoche), there would be nothing else that the Old Kadhampa can offer you.

Should Your Holiness continue to stay in Gelugpa, besides from becoming one of the highest ranking Living Buddha (Rinpoche) in Drepung Monastery, there would be no other benefit and usage Your Holiness can offer; and Your Holiness cannot prevail over those diehard Yellow Sect worshippers of Great King Dorje Possessing Strength, isn’t it so ?

If you swiftly return to Old Kadhampa faction, not only would the Kadhampa’s highest position be handed to Your Holiness; furthermore, your successive incarnations would continue to inherit the top position of Old Kadhampa Sect (of importance), that is likened to the sun and moon status, isn’t it so ?

H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama said,
“ Secondly, all those adherents of Dolgyal (Dorje Shugden) are directly criticizing me, they are against me overall. ”

The Abbot of the Mahasukka Monastery at Mahabodhi Mountain in Taiwan -H.E. Dromsong Rinpooche (Taiwanese) asks : To be answered by H.H. Kadham Trichen Rinpoche ( H.E. Serkong Tritul Tulku ) :

Ask?May I ask H.H. Kadham Trichen Rinpoche, did you directly criticize or rebel against the Great 14th Dalai Lama, who is the one and only Saviour of the helpless sentient beings of three realms ?
Answer?No!

Ask?Why the answer is no ?
Answer?Since I am the only person who ranked the highest position in the Old Kadhampa faction, thus I don’t venerate Dolgyal (dharmap?la of Yellow Sect-Great King Dorje Shugden). In regards to this matter, it is not necessary to criticize and rebel against the Wishfulfilling Gem- Great Saviour H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama.

Ask?Why the one and only Saviour of the helpless sentient beings of three realms, the Great 14th Dalai Lama mentioned that when he went to Taiwan in the past, that you criticized and antagonized him ?
Answer? In regards to that matter concerned, before I was converted to Kadhampa sect and previously as a devout Gelugpa, I rebutted the Wish-fulfilling Gem Great Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama ‘s objections and condemnations on his great ancestral gurus H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Pal Zangpo and H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche Losang Yeshe and other Yellow Sect accomplished masters’ ( who were the adherents of Great King Dorje Possessing Strength) wrongful conduct, etc. Since I cannot bear to see those obscured and ignorant sentient beings committing sins, therefore I clarified the facts and refuted the mistakes, that’s all. During that time, those people who helped to translate for the Wish-fulfilling Gem Saviour had added a lot of mistakes ( in terms of interpretations) that was not mentioned by the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour, thus I was just correcting those mistakes only.

Ask?Why did the Great Spiritual Guide H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama an advocate of world peace say that you are an adherent of Dolgyal ?
Answer?There are only four issues to be responded in this case.
Firstly, it is identical that both the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour and I used to venerate Great King Dorje Shugden, it is also identical that we both disclaimed adherence to Great King Dorje Shugden. However, as of the 1st of January 2008, I have completely repudiated Old Kadhampa from adhering to the uncommon dharmap?las of other sects. Whether the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour H.H. Dalai Lama has forsaken or not, I have no way of knowing; but should the Wish-fulfilling Gem Saviour thoroughly renounce like me, then he would not speak of me as an adherent of the uncommon dharmap?la of Yellow Sect- Great King Dorje Possessing Strength.

Secondly, in general those who disowned Great King Dorje Shugden would definitely seek audience with the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour, and regardless of whether they were wrong or not, they all should say, “ I was wrong in the past, damn it ! Damn it ! Please, I beg your forgiveness, please grant the position of abbot to me, I would like to serve you, etc. ”

However, I am different from those people, because there is nothing wrong with my adherence to Great King Dorje Shugden in the past. I would definitely honor if I am a Gelugpa, since according to my guru of the greatest kindness -H.E. Sonam Kunga and one of my gurus of the greatest kindness -H.E. The 4th Zemey Rinpoche, H.E. The 3rd Trijang Rinpoche, H.E. The 2nd Pabongka Rinpoche, H.E. The 2nd Serkong Rinpoche, H.E. The 4th Dagpo Rinpoche, H.H. The 3rd Tadrak Rinpoche, H.E. The 3rd Zong Rinpoche, and other accomplished lineage gurus they all spoke coherently that Great King Dorje Shugden is the uncommon dharmap?la of the Yellow Sect.

Therefore I will not go to anyone to repent for what I have done, since I neither seek fame nor wealth, or even status. I am the one who strayed away from a group of men to join the squad of dogs. Consequently eventhough I was given with offerings of assets worth over a hundred million dollars, yet I have never kept any by my side, instead I built monasteries and donated to the impoverished sentient beings. There is not even a small thatched hut under my name, I am truly and exceedingly joyous !

Moreover, if one has not commited any wrongdoing but repented without any righteous cause, this is considered an act of cunning treachery. Otherwise, going for ordination or practising Dharma and other correct behaviours also have to go forward to a certain person to seek for forgiveness is indeed an extremely foolish act.

Thirdly, although the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour and I are similar in a way that we both renounced the practice of Great King Dorje Possessing Strength, but the reasons for renouncing are totally different. The Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour ‘s reason of abandonment was based on his own perspectives or derived from H.H. The 5th Dalai Lama and others, who deemed Great King Dorje Shugden as a nefarious wishing, malevolent spirit, demon, who is perilous to the Sect and sentient beings.
As for my reason of disclaiming Dorje Shugden is very simple, since I started to reestablish the Old Kadhampa sect from the 1st of January 2008; besides those dharmap?las that H.H. The Great Atisha and Dromtönpa Rinpoche and other Old Kadhampa’ s ancestral masters were worshipping, all dharmap?las of other sects have entirely been renounced from that time onwards. Furthermore, Old Kadhampa is completely prohibited to adhere to the uncommon dharmap?las of Yellow Sect such as Great King Dorje Shugden, as well as all other uncommon dharmap?las of other Sects.

Fourthly, although I have given up the propitiation of Great King Dorje Shugden, but I did not proceed to seek audience with the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour. Therefore the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour perceived that eventhough I have forsaken adherence to Great King Dorje Possessing Strength, but I have not sought audience or repented to the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour, therefore he considered that I must have continued to worship the dharmap?la of Yellow Sect !

Ask?Why you did not pay respect to the only God of Tibet- H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama ?

Answer?There is no harm to visit the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour should there be great assistance to the development of Old Kadhampa sect. However, the core expansion for the Old Kadhampa sect is centered around mainly ethnic Chinese, therefore even if I proceed to seek audience, there will not be much help.

Ask?Since you have already renounced veneration to Great King Dorje Shugden, why don’t you emulate those high lamas of Tibet and go to repent in front of the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour ?
Answer?If the Wishfulfilling Jewel Saviour looks forward to my repentance, then there is nothing to be repented regarding the issue of propitiating dharmap?las. However since the beginningless time of samsara, I must have offended quite a lot of sentient beings, thus the misdeeds accumulated since the beginningless time of samsara must be repented at all times. Consequently, have I been offended the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour in any way, there should be also no exceptions as well.
H.H.The 14th Dalai lama said :
For instance, take Serkong?note?yellow mass?Tri-?note?Tripa, that is, Gaden Tripa- The Head of the Gelug sect?tul?note?tulku – an emanation of a Buddha)?as an example, previously when I ( The 14th Dalai Lama) went to Taiwan to give Dharma teachings, there were?note?reporters?interviewing me on the issues of Dolgyal, so I gave a short and explicit answer on the the history of murder of a ? Lama who was a great debater of Buddhist Dialectics Institute ?(and blamed it on Dorje Shugden) on the source of history.

Approximately the very next day, Serkong Tritul Tulku himself and a legislative committee member of Taiwan, who was an acquaintance of him, they both were interviewed on television and directly refuted what I (H.H. 14th Dalai Lama) have said.

Not only that, recently, ?note?Serkong Tritul Tulku?spoke again of Gyalwa?note?Gyalwa is the Great Precious Conqueror- The 14th Dalai Lama?Rinpoche did not adhere to Friend?note?means Guru in Sanskrit?, the reason?note?did not adhere to Friend means i.e. did not acknowledge the guru, thus his vows were defiled, did not act accordingly to the his own guru’s Dharma teachings?, it seemed like one or two months ago ! Overall, he directly criticized me, refuted against me etc.

Ask ?Why did the religious leader of Tibet- H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama said, “so I gave a short and explicit answer on history of murder of a ? Lama who was a great debater of a Buddhist Dialectics Institute ?(and blamed it on Dorje Shugden) on the source of history.

Answer?With respect to this issue, there are two answers.
Firstly, regarding the murder of the ? Lama who was a great debater of Buddhist Dialectics Institute ?, I have heard that the case has not been resolved until now, thus I am not clear about the cause of his death, it also seems like the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour was unable to present any concrete evidence in terms of witnesses or physical evidence. Hence, on the basis of pure guessing coupled with conjectures, and he maligned those disadvantaged groups of believers of Dorje Shugden.

Secondly, in regards to the aspect of the narration of the history of Great King Dorje Shugden, I am also confused; because at that time I did not go to pay respect to the Wish-fulfilling Gem Saviour, and I did not receive any reliable information, therefore I have no way of finding out what history he had narrated.

Ask?Why did the Buddhist religious leader the Dalai Lama H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama recently lamented that you (Sekong Tritul Tulku) also said that H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama dishonoured his own gurus ?

Answer? Last year on the 18th of September, there was a congregation of the establishment of the five major sects inaugurated at The Chinese Taiwan United General Association of Tibetan Buddhism in Taiwan, at that time we had a total numbers of 2,640 members of the Old Kadhampa faction participating. Among the members, there were over three hundred monks and nuns. Therefore the Chairman and members of the Tibetan Religious Foundation of H.H. the Dalai Lama published untrue articles to discredit me, since I was merely narrating the history between the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour and his root guru H.E. Trijang Rinpoche (H.E. 3rd Trijang Rinpoche) only, as for whether the Wish-fulfilling Gem Saviour “honoured ” his guru well or not, hasn’t it been publicly noted ?

Ask?It was heard that the religious leader of Exoteric and Esoteric Buddhism- H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama was extremely displeased with your guru H.E. Denma Lochö Rinpoche, was it ?

Answer?It should be quite unlikely ! Because when H.E. Denma Lochö Rinpoche’s arrived at Taiwan in 2006, we had a meeting. H.E. Lochö Rinpoche persuaded that I should collaborate with the Wish-fulfilling Gem Saviour and thereby giving me other instructions. However, I agreed that as long as it is beneficial to the development of Old Kadhampa faction, I replied that I am willing to work with anyone. Unfortunately, there are many scoundrels working under the Wish-fulfilling Gem Saviour, the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour is so fond of listening to their one-sided perspective opinions. Henceforth there is no collaboration until today, and it is unlikely that there will be any collaboration in the future. Subsequently, everything should be left to destiny and it would be best not to coerce any matters.

Ask?Would the Great Benevolent and Compassionate Saviour of suffering and hardship-H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama concede the Old Kadhampa that you have reestablished ?

Answer: Normal people ( mentally and physically healthy ) would admit the truths and realities, wouldn’t they ? Likewise, the rational Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour would be needless to say so.

Ask?What if the luminaries of sun of sentient beings – H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama does not recognize the Old Kadhampa faction that you have reestablished, what is there to be done ?

Answer?It is a fact that Old Kadhampa communities had been re-established, henceforth I do not need recognition from anyone. It is just that in the process of flourishing and developing the sect, if there would be more people to partake in, wouldn’t it better ?
Thus, if the Wishfulfilling Gem Saviour H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama, who was publicly accepted as the reincarnation of the Victor Dromtönpa, can also give a helping hand, that would be ideal.
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[kris]

There are quite a few small sites like that, and most of them are not maintained much:

http://thedorjeshugdengroup.wordpress.com/ (last updated about 1.5 month ago)
http://dorjeshugdenblog.wordpress.com/ (last updated about 1.5 year ago)
http://shugdensociety.wordpress.com/ (last updated about 1 year ago)
http://dharmaprotector.wordpress.com/ (last updated about 1 year ago)

and so on...

I am wondering if these mini sites will help in search ranking in any way...

[biggyboy]

You know what I find it too daunting to even read this website as suggested... http://polemicstodalailama.wordpress.com/  Got confused in the midst of reading it.  Not sure what he or she is trying to get at.  Too many questions directing at HHDL, if I may say so.

Anyway, this platform here www.dorjeshugden.com is the best ever websites that I have seen so far.  Exciting, active, up-todate, always fresh with information and interactive ....

[harrynephew]

You know what I find it too daunting to even read this website as suggested... http://polemicstodalailama.wordpress.com/  Got confused in the midst of reading it.  Not sure what he or she is trying to get at.  Too many questions directing at HHDL, if I may say so.

Anyway, this platform here www.dorjeshugden.com is the best ever websites that I have seen so far.  Exciting, active, up-todate, always fresh with information and interactive ....

I can't agree more with you pal! The color scheme of the website is just simply too hard to read and the words scribed in the page is just not bite-sized for the average joe(sorry, I'm just being me). It goes on and on with the Great Savior......Victor..... I mean, c'mon we're in the 21st century already. Is there really a need for those epithets?!

My Sukhavati for Dorje Shugden is here on www.dorjeshugden.com

It's harmonious
It's informative
It's not too aggresive
It just feels like a home, a big family of Dorje Shugden practitioners whom I can relate to.

[Ensapa]

The article posted here is very interesting as it gives a glimpse of Tibetan History that many of the english speaking world are too embarrassed to print out or to spread out. You know - sometimes people tend to cover up history because it is just too embarrassing or it puts the Dalai Lama in a bad light, this letter sort of exposes it all. There are so many accounts of High Lamas whose deaths were dubious and the author of this letter questions the Dalai Lama if all of these were caused by Dorje Shugden or were blamed on Dorje Shugden. If the Dalai Lama replies to any of these, there would be a logical loop somewhere, and it would prove the point of the author of this letter.