The video is a clear proof that those we the good old days when Dorje Shugden was not an issue, not labelled to be sectarian and there are even accounts of when an oracle of DOrje Shugden, Choyang Kuten Lama who as a well respected and recognised oracle back in those days, would take trance of Dorje Shugden and people from different sects came to ask for his help/blessings too.
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Thank you for this post dsiluvu. I think what you have here is of the greatest importance. The autobiography of Choyang Duldzin Kuten Lama not only shows that Dorje Shugden is not sectarian but has also been proven not to be a spirit.
All the procedures Choyang Kuten went through from the strict purifications exercises to the series of observations and examinations over a period of four years were observed by so many high lamas such as Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, Purbuchok Rinpoche, Kyabje Ling Rinpoche, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, Purchog Jamgong Rinpoche, Kyabje Tadak Rinpohce and finally before the whole assembly of the prestigious Shartse Monastery.
The singular objective of all those test were to determine if what Choyang Kuten was taking possession of, was a spirit or a Dharmapala. If Dorje Shugden is merely a spirit he would not have passed all the tests and would have been caught out, if not by the lama then by Setrap Chen himself, as emanation of Buddha Amitabha. For Dorje Shugden to be a spirit but passed off as a Dhamapala would have to be a conspiracy of enormous proportions that involved virtually all the high lamas at that time as well as Setrap. This is such a ridiculous allegation. That would also mean that Gaden Shartse is spiritually corrupt as is the Dharma Protector Setrap.
Look carefully at the account of the final test:
"As part of the ceremony slips of paper were rolled into pills, one saying that the possessing being was Gyalchen Dorje Shugden, another saying that it was a being who could not gain rebirth from bardo (intermediate) state.
There were another three slips of paper rolled into pills for the Dharmapala Setrap. When I went into trance I was offered the first set of pills. I immediately took and ate the one referring to the Dharmapala Dorje Shugden. The same test was made of the Dharmapala Setrap. At that time I threw the other two pills away and pointed to the one left – the one referring to Dharmapala Setrap. Up to that point I had still not been convinced, but this was the final and conclusive test. I was then approved of as an oracle
of the two dharmapalas, Gyalchen Dorje Shugden and Setrap. So, the authenticity of the oracle was tested by rigorous means".
Extremely vigorous testing of the authenticity of the oracle was also an intense examination of the nature of the possessing being. It means that if Dorje Shugden is a spirit, the testing of the authenticity of the oracle that takes trance of a Dharmapa would have failed. And yet it passed and the Dorje Shugden oracle went on to help many people regardless of sects.
Finally, conclusive proof that Dorje Shugden is an enlightenedn Protector is seen by the same oracle whp takes trance of an undisputed enlightened being, the Dharmapala Setrap. If Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, then can Setrap share the same oracle as an evil spirit? Who would trust Setrap then? And seeing that Setrap is also in Dorje Shugden's entourage, does that mean Setrap is also an evil spirit? The allegations against Dorje Shugden has reached absurdities that are beyond idiotic proportions. If Dorje Shugden is a spirit, shouldn't Shartse close down immediately for failing to detect an evil spirit and having another one as its Protector? Enough already, don't you think CTA?
