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The CTA's Report Card.
« on: January 02, 2013, 05:22:54 PM »
It is coming into its 54th year since the Dalai Lama and the exiled Tibetans found asylum in India. In the last 50 years a lot of major shifts as the world embraces progress and positive changes. Yuri Gagarin went to space and Neil Armstrong walked on the moon; we see the break up of the USSR and the end to a once feared Soviet era; Nelson Mandela was released and became the first black President of South Africa; the Berlin Wall came down and East and West Germany became a federal republic. And we see China going from a country that was brought to the brink of it's own destruction by its Cultural Revolution to becoming the new super-power of the world. Even the Congo gained its independence from a colonial master during the same time.

But what has the Tibetan government in exile achieved in the same 50-year period?

Politically, the [lack of] system of governance practiced by first TGIE and now the CTA is probably the biggest irony as it has been taking place on the same soil as that of the largest democracy in the world. The closing down of independent newspapers that will not toe the official line; the recent intervention in Radio Free Asia – supposedly a voice of democracy; the earlier attempt to mount a coup d’état over all Tibetan Buddhist Schools and usurp their monasteries and hard earned assets in order to consolidate power under a single authority; and the banning of 360-year old Dorje Shugden practice, which goes against virtually every single Constitution in any democratic country in the world (including India’s own), all indicate that the leadership in the exiled community are still behaving more like overlords than people elected by the community to serve the community. Also ironically, as the leaders of the exiled Tibetan people continue to manipulate, divide and rule them, those left behind in Tibet who were previously serfs began to harvest for themselves, for the first time in their lives, what they sowed.

The words “Tibet” and “politics” should never be allowed to appear in the same sentence because when they do, it turns whatever land it is on, unknowingly into a petri dish of deadly virus that will infect the peace on that land. Surely one of the biggest political mistake India has ever brought on itself was to give asylum to the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan refugees. In the 1950’s there was an overt closeness between India and China that there was even a slogan for it known as “Hindi-Chinni bhai bhai” meaning Indians and Chinese are brothers. In 1962, three short years after playing host to the stateless Tibetans, the two Asian giants said bye-bye to Hindi-Chinni bhai bhai, and India and China went to war and things have never been the same ever since. As long as the CTA continues to take advantage of the generosity of its host, India will never be rid of the thorn at it's side and today more than ever China and India views each other with even greater suspicion, whilst the CTA continue to play their self-serving and grotesquely undemocratic games and tricks.

As for the spread of the Buddhist religion, the exiled Tibetan leadership has fared no better. Splitting and dividing monasteries by force into parts is not the equivalent in value to genuinely fostering the growth of more monasteries and schools in India. The holy presence of the spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism has not led to a new renaissance of the religion that was borne out of India itself. Instead because of its religious persecutions and meddling in spiritual affairs, the leadership of the exiled people caused Tibetan Buddhist lamas, wanting no bar of the politics to interfere with their practice, to explore fairer opportunities overseas. Meanwhile the CCP that was accused by the Tibetan government in exile to be the death of Buddhism in Tibet is instead restoring monasteries, funding and building new ones, allowing the Chinese population to receive Tibetan Buddhist education and even funding a Tibetan Buddhist dictionary. In other words, they are supporting the growth of the Dharma. However at the same time, the leadership in Dharamsala continues to stir up more controversies as they interfere with the traditions of ancient lineages, as we see in the Karmapa issue. Buddhism has taken a few steps back as the result of their callousness.

The CTA accuse China of pursuing a policy of cultural-genocide but how true is that claim really? Barry Sautman, Associate Professor of Social Science at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, spoke at UCLA recently (Dec 2, 2012) to show that the claim is greatly exaggerated. To quote Professor Sautman, 92-94% of ethnic Tibetans speak Tibetan. The only exception is places in Qinghai and Amdo where the Tibetan population is very small compared with the broader population. Instruction in primary school is pretty universally in Tibetan. Chinese is bilingual from secondary school onward. All middle schools in the TAR also teach Tibetan. In Lhasa there are about equal time given to Chinese, Tibetan, and English." In contrast, Sautman said, "Tibetan exile leaders in India used English as the sole language until 1994 and only became bilingual in 1994. Schools in Tibet promote the Tibetan language more than Indian schools do in ethnic Tibetan areas--in Ladakh, India, instruction is in Urdu, with a high dropout rate from Tibetans, but India is never accused of cultural genocide against Tibetans. “ [Source: http://www.international.ucla.edu]

Why would the Chinese promote the language when they are supposed to have embarked upon a policy to kill off the Tibetan culture? Surely a society’s culture is intricately linked to its language.  If we care to admit it, all cultures suffer the same “genocide” introduced by modernization spurred by the West as jeans and T-shirts replace traditional clothes and baseball caps are put on instead of straw hats. Other then the most primitive tribes, is there a modern community of people who have managed not to evolve in the face of progress driven by the phenomena of globalization?

Other than the occasional politically motivated unrest, it would appear that the Tibetan people are getting along just fine back in the motherland. Their culture is being preserved albeit accompanied by the assurance of nationalistic education, the Tibetan Buddhist tradition is thriving in Tibet as it is in the West, driven by lamas chased away by religious persecutions in Dharamsala. And better livelihoods are being developed and experienced by Tibetans like they have never done before.

So what actual good is the CTA for now? How can the CTA be telling us that they can do better for Tibet with a population of over 3million people (90% ethnic Tibetans) when they have not done any good for a mere 130,000 people who have become so disillusioned that they are resorting to committing suicide?  How can the CTA led by a man who has never been to Tibet, a man who proclaims to be a Human Rights expert who doesn't uphold the values of the rights on his own people do better than the Chinese? Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay claims to be able to bring Tibetans into freedom and yet by the primitive and feudal nature of his government, the CTA oppresses its own people based on religious belief till this day. And today, despite having all the necessary authority to reverse an unjust situation, the Dr Lobsang Sangay is still refusing to remove the ban although it serves no purpose other than creating more suffering? The game has been long over and everyone has left the field but Dr. Lobsang Sangay and his bunch are still cheering their own goals. It is quite evident that the CTA has squandered a lot of its opportunities over five decades and as the world marches into the future, the CTA has caused a whole community of people to lag so irreversibly behind. What has the Tibetan government in exile done for its people and what values have they brought to the world and how badly have they portrayed the image of Tibetan Buddhism and and what did they do with all the time and assistance to be a true democracy?
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Re: The CTA's Report Card.
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 09:45:04 AM »
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So what actual good is the CTA for now? How can the CTA be telling us that they can do better for Tibet with a population of over 3million people (90% ethnic Tibetans) when they have not done any good for a mere 130,000 people who have become so disillusioned that they are resorting to committing suicide?  How can the CTA led by a man who has never been to Tibet, a man who proclaims to be a Human Rights expert who doesn't uphold the values of the rights on his own people do better than the Chinese? Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay claims to be able to bring Tibetans into freedom and yet by the primitive and feudal nature of his government, the CTA oppresses its own people based on religious belief till this day. And today, despite having all the necessary authority to reverse an unjust situation, the Dr Lobsang Sangay is still refusing to remove the ban although it serves no purpose other than creating more suffering? The game has been long over and everyone has left the field but Dr. Lobsang Sangay and his bunch are still cheering their own goals. It is quite evident that the CTA has squandered a lot of its opportunities over five decades and as the world marches into the future, the CTA has caused a whole community of people to lag so irreversibly behind. What has the Tibetan government in exile done for its people and what values have they brought to the world and how badly have they portrayed the image of Tibetan Buddhism and and what did they do with all the time and assistance to be a true democracy?

There is only 1 and 1 answer to this problem: that Lobsang Sanggay is a very weak leader that still sees the need to hide behind the Dalai Lama's robes. Yes, the Dalai Lama may be more popular than him, but the Dalai Lama also gave him his blessing to do as he sees fit with the Tibetan parliament, but yet he fails to stand up to this challenge/responsibility. Lobsang sanggay MUST stand up to the Dalai Lama and tell him that the Dalai Lama has no command over secular matters anymore. Whatever bans that the Dalai Lama has decreed over the centuries against other high lamas and dharma protectors should remain as a religious affair. The Dorje Shugden pages must be out of the CTA's website. CTA must take down their hitlists. Then only it will be progress for them.

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 10:14:15 AM »
We can analyse the CTA to death but the crux of it is this – Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay is not a weak leader. He is just not a leader, I'm sorry to say. He is a Harvard scholar but he has zero working experience in politics, let alone as a political leader. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t mean well. I am sure he does. But for someone who has never stepped foot into Tibet and with zero political experience, how can he possibly lead the Tibetan government/administration?

If Dr Lobsang Sangay would like to prove himself as an independent secular leader, he should have the guts to differentiate himself from the Dalai Lama’s wishes and not impose the ban on Dorje Shugden practitioners. He should lift the “most wanted” status on HE Gangchen Rinpoche and other Dorje Shugden practitioners. This “most wanted” list simply because of their religious practice makes the CTA laughable. On the other hand, the CTA is making the Dorje Shugden Lamas very popular in China, so perhaps it’s not such a bad thing after all. What do you think? Is it better to be accepted among 6 million Tibetans in Tibet plus around 150,000 Tibetans in exile or 1,347,350,000 Chinese?
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 03:41:28 PM »
There is a great irony that the very thing that the Tibetans are most respected and well-known for - THEIR RELIGION - has become the very thing they have misused, which is leading to their downfall.

Vajratruth, your post is very insightful and I'm impressed by this angle that the Chinese are in fact doing more for the growth and preservation of Tibetan culture (including its religion) than the CTA. In contrast then, the CTA's failure has become all the more obvious - for while the monasteries in Tibet/China are flourishing, being restored and seeing a greater influx of monks, the monasteries are literally splitting apart in the exiled Tibetan communities, statues being destroyed and the Sangha disassociating from each other. To anyone observing the state of affairs from the outside, it would seem that the CTA are being more oppressive to their own people than the Chinese are to the Tibetans in Tibet.

After all, for all intents and purposes, people in China aren't banned from any particular religion. They certainly aren't denied welfare, medical help, education, or travel documents just because they choose a certain religion in China! In the Tibetan communities outside though, Dorje Shugden practitioners continue to be ostracised and discriminated against continuously. So who's more oppressed? Even from a human rights issue, it would seem that the Chinese are granting their people more rights than the Tibetans are - what a great irony that it is the Tibetans who keep pulling the human rights card in their fight for a Free Tibet against China. China can just as well deal back the same card and point out to them that they don't even grant their fellow Tibetans fair human rights... so what exactly are they accusing China of?!

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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 05:22:45 AM »
We can analyse the CTA to death but the crux of it is this – Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay is not a weak leader. He is just not a leader, I'm sorry to say. He is a Harvard scholar but he has zero working experience in politics, let alone as a political leader. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t mean well. I am sure he does. But for someone who has never stepped foot into Tibet and with zero political experience, how can he possibly lead the Tibetan government/administration?

If Dr Lobsang Sangay would like to prove himself as an independent secular leader, he should have the guts to differentiate himself from the Dalai Lama’s wishes and not impose the ban on Dorje Shugden practitioners. He should lift the “most wanted” status on HE Gangchen Rinpoche and other Dorje Shugden practitioners. This “most wanted” list simply because of their religious practice makes the CTA laughable. On the other hand, the CTA is making the Dorje Shugden Lamas very popular in China, so perhaps it’s not such a bad thing after all. What do you think? Is it better to be accepted among 6 million Tibetans in Tibet plus around 150,000 Tibetans in exile or 1,347,350,000 Chinese?

There is no way he could do that because he is just too afraid. Scholar or not, he has chosen to lead the Tibetans and the Tibetans have chosen him to lead them. The Dalai Lama has also given his blessing and approval to him in leading the Tibetans but he is not doing anything at all. Instead whatever that was happening from the previous kalon tripa until now is still being in effect and also there is barely any news or developments with Dharamsala. Nothing reformed, nothing improved. The very least thing he could do was to lift the Dorje Shugden ban to show that they are no longer mixing religion and secular administration, but even in that simple task, he fell flat in his face.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 06:21:12 PM »
After all, for all intents and purposes, people in China aren't banned from any particular religion. They certainly aren't denied welfare, medical help, education, or travel documents just because they choose a certain religion in China! In the Tibetan communities outside though, Dorje Shugden practitioners continue to be ostracised and discriminated against continuously. So who's more oppressed? Even from a human rights issue, it would seem that the Chinese are granting their people more rights than the Tibetans are - what a great irony that it is the Tibetans who keep pulling the human rights card in their fight for a Free Tibet against China. China can just as well deal back the same card and point out to them that they don't even grant their fellow Tibetans fair human rights... so what exactly are they accusing China of?!

Isn't it ironic? China who is supposedly communist is giving more and more spiritual freedom compared to Tibetans in exile who is by right suppose to be practicing Buddhism, equanimity??? I am wondering if this even strike them as how they, the CTA have in fact created the all the causes for they themselves to be less appealing to their own Tibetans in China, especially those who wishes and continues to practice Dorje Shugden. On top of that they chase away all their highly attained and very influential Lamas like Gangchen Rinpoche who have started building so many monasteries in Tibet.

Well obviously the human rights in China is way better then in India/Tibetan exile community... like u said beggar at least they are not discriminated to a point where by they are denied welfare, medical help, education, or travel documents!!!

With all the help and encouragement that they are getting from the Chinese Govt, even funds for building and restoring monasteries.... who would wanna go back to India?

So it looks like the CTAs strategy is really backfiring. Their human rights card is dying because there is none in their own community... i think this is karma. All that self-immolation is like a sudden hype but as we can see is slowly dying down and losing it's impact. If I was CTA I would quickly lift the ban, remove all the "wanted list" of Lamas, re-conciliate with the Lamas, seek their forgiveness and advice before it is too late.   

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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2013, 04:44:37 AM »
Isn't it ironic? China who is supposedly communist is giving more and more spiritual freedom compared to Tibetans in exile who is by right suppose to be practicing Buddhism, equanimity??? I am wondering if this even strike them as how they, the CTA have in fact created the all the causes for they themselves to be less appealing to their own Tibetans in China, especially those who wishes and continues to practice Dorje Shugden. On top of that they chase away all their highly attained and very influential Lamas like Gangchen Rinpoche who have started building so many monasteries in Tibet.

Well obviously the human rights in China is way better then in India/Tibetan exile community... like u said beggar at least they are not discriminated to a point where by they are denied welfare, medical help, education, or travel documents!!!

With all the help and encouragement that they are getting from the Chinese Govt, even funds for building and restoring monasteries.... who would wanna go back to India?

So it looks like the CTAs strategy is really backfiring. Their human rights card is dying because there is none in their own community... i think this is karma. All that self-immolation is like a sudden hype but as we can see is slowly dying down and losing it's impact. If I was CTA I would quickly lift the ban, remove all the "wanted list" of Lamas, re-conciliate with the Lamas, seek their forgiveness and advice before it is too late.

Unfortunately for CTA, China is doing a better job than them at spreading the Dharma (sans Dalai Lama) no matter how anyone wants to look at this. CTA's hate against Dorje Shugden is the same as China hating the Dalai Lama. CTA is more or less just like their enemy, except that the object of their hate differs. The CTA should be applying what the Dalai Lama has taught them in a Buddhist sense instead of trying so hard to get independence because the more and more they try to implement the Dorje Shugden ban which is anything but Buddhist, the further and further away they go from their goal of liberating Tibet.

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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2013, 10:00:29 AM »
I feel China is doing a way better job for the Tibetans in Tibet. Unlike CTA, China has so called stablized the region and giving Tibetans more religion freedom compared to those days. China is changing their own policy now and expanding to a more people friendly approach.

CTA haven't done anything concrete to really make us feel they want to free their people in Tibet and not forgetting the exiles in India and nearby region. Apart from still holding onto the ban on Dorje Shugden devotees and also mistreating/discriminating them, CTA has never really done anything significant to help lessen Tibetan's problems. Take the recent self immolation among Tibetans in the quest of freeing Tibet. CTA keeping mum on this issue and that is not so clever if you are talking about saving and protecting your own people. Thumbs down for you CTA. With the ban on Dorje Shugden still active, i plead to you CTA, please lift the ban for the good of your own people!

Current political figure head, Lobsang Sanggay i feel is not incisive enough to head the office and i wonder sometimes does he work for Dalai Lama behind the scene and become the puppet ruler or something. Here you are saying you want to help your fellow Tibetans but at the same time you are hurting your own people for keeping faith in their own belief by propitiating Dorje Shugden.


There is only 1 and 1 answer to this problem: that Lobsang Sanggay is a very weak leader that still sees the need to hide behind the Dalai Lama's robes. Yes, the Dalai Lama may be more popular than him, but the Dalai Lama also gave him his blessing to do as he sees fit with the Tibetan parliament, but yet he fails to stand up to this challenge/responsibility. Lobsang sanggay MUST stand up to the Dalai Lama and tell him that the Dalai Lama has no command over secular matters anymore. Whatever bans that the Dalai Lama has decreed over the centuries against other high lamas and dharma protectors should remain as a religious affair. The Dorje Shugden pages must be out of the CTA's website. CTA must take down their hitlists. Then only it will be progress for them.

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2013, 03:40:00 PM »
Thanks Vajratruth for pointing out the fact that China are doing more for the Tibetan than the CTA. The Tibetan in China has the freedom of religions, freedom of learning their own language, enjoying their human and citizen rights in welfare, medical, education, culture etc. China are also funding the infrastructure and development of the schools and monasteries in Tibet.  China even built the QingZang Railway that will improve the economy for Tibet.

What have CTA done to their people? There is not much improvement to the living conditions of the Tibetan in India. I can only see the same discrimination to their own people just because of religious differences, self-immolation, disregard of high lama such as H. E. Gangchen Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche, etc.
So who is better? CTA or China? If CTA really wants to lead Tibet, they should at least show how capable they are to unit their people such as lifting the ban for Dorje Shugden so that there will no more discrimination to their people, and also improve the economy condition of Tibetan.

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2013, 04:51:25 PM »

Vajratruth, your post is very insightful and I'm impressed by this angle that the Chinese are in fact doing more for the growth and preservation of Tibetan culture (including its religion) than the CTA. In contrast then, the CTA's failure has become all the more obvious - for while the monasteries in Tibet/China are flourishing, being restored and seeing a greater influx of monks, the monasteries are literally splitting apart in the exiled Tibetan communities, statues being destroyed and the Sangha disassociating from each other. To anyone observing the state of affairs from the outside, it would seem that the CTA are being more oppressive to their own people than the Chinese are to the Tibetans in Tibet.



I do agree with you beggar.

Sampheling Monastery (Trijang Rinpoche Monastery) in Sichuan, China is a good example to begin with. Over the last 5 years, the Chinese government has been giving grants, subsidy and even diverting tourist towards that monastery. Not only they are growing but their outreached "program" seems to be doing far better than the monasteries in India controlled by the CTA. On top of this, Tibetans in China who are doing well in the businesses are giving more now to preserve their lineage.

Please see this article for more information on Sampheling Monastery http://www.dorjeshugden.com/places/trijang-rinpoches-sampheling-monastery/. They are huge and their statues are bigger then those in the monasteries in India.

I do hope Lobsang Sangay does something fast to prove himself. At this moment, I do not hear much from him ie : his achievements. Nothing on the international front. Of course, if he was smart, he can be well known for lifting the ban on Shugden during his tenure and uniting all the powerful lamas...... we shall see.

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2013, 04:18:26 AM »

I do agree with you beggar.

Sampheling Monastery (Trijang Rinpoche Monastery) in Sichuan, China is a good example to begin with. Over the last 5 years, the Chinese government has been giving grants, subsidy and even diverting tourist towards that monastery. Not only they are growing but their outreached "program" seems to be doing far better than the monasteries in India controlled by the CTA. On top of this, Tibetans in China who are doing well in the businesses are giving more now to preserve their lineage.

Please see this article for more information on Sampheling Monastery http://www.dorjeshugden.com/places/trijang-rinpoches-sampheling-monastery/. They are huge and their statues are bigger then those in the monasteries in India.

I do hope Lobsang Sangay does something fast to prove himself. At this moment, I do not hear much from him ie : his achievements. Nothing on the international front. Of course, if he was smart, he can be well known for lifting the ban on Shugden during his tenure and uniting all the powerful lamas...... we shall see.


Well, well, well, now we have parallels to draw: The Chinese government helps Ganden Sampheling monastery grow more and more but CTA does little or nothing for Ganden, Sera and Drepung and not to mention all the smaller monasteries that really need attention and care. CTA has not done anything for any monastery, as far as I am concerned. The monasteries were set up again by the Dalai Lama, but as the Dalai Lama has other things on his hands, nobody in CTA ever thought of taking up the reins and the responsibility of developing the monasteries while China has done a really good job of promoting and developing the monasteries. Each monk and nun even receive stipends from the government. Does CTA do this?

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2015, 07:59:13 PM »
If the CTA's keep doing what they have been doing all these years, they will never improve and they will never win over their own peoples' heart or even make the people respect them. Respect is earned and I don't see the CTA's doing their work, what they do all day is to stir things up, confuse people, use people, make up their own stories etc. How can a ''government'' manage a nation like that?