What ban?! Tibetan govt organizes riots against their own people

[DharmaDefender]

I dont know about you guys but Im pretty sick and tired of anti-Shugdenites saying theres no ban. How big is the rock their all hiding under?!! The next time one of em wants to claim that theres no ban, were making it up to get Chinese money, their leaders never banned Dorje Shugden, tell em to read this and weep. Oh yeahhhhhhhhh 4 million people who are suppressed, all of them have a very good imagination!! Eejits.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/tibetan-leadership-organizes-violence/

[yontenjamyang]

It is sickening to the see for ourselves that the Dalai Lama is lying. The reporter said that he has seen it with his own eyes, but the Dalai Lama just said, 'no,I think rumors!". This is an outright lie. He further said "from this side, no single record about violence". Who is he kidding. This is outright contempt of others, of the monks, of the Indian Government and of the world.

This is an act of a dictator, a two face "leader" and a desperate one at that. He worst sin is not the ban, in my opinion but the instigation of his own people against the Shugdenites. He caused them to commit/break major sins/vows against a Buddha.

Sad. Sigh!

[DharmaDefender]

It is sickening to the see for ourselves that the Dalai Lama is lying. The reporter said that he has seen it with his own eyes, but the Dalai Lama just said, 'no,I think rumors!". This is an outright lie. He further said "from this side, no single record about violence". Who is he kidding. This is outright contempt of others, of the monks, of the Indian Government and of the world.

This is an act of a dictator, a two face "leader" and a desperate one at that. He worst sin is not the ban, in my opinion but the instigation of his own people against the Shugdenites. He caused them to commit/break major sins/vows against a Buddha.

Sad. Sigh!

But if you think about it a little more closely, WHY did the Dalai Lama say those things? The guy flies around the world raising millions in sponsorship every single year. He schmoozes with the whos who and knows exactly what to say to get them to open their wallets to him.

So why did he slip so many times and liken the ban to the cultural revolution, totally deny the violence and whatnot? Surely he cant be so thick to say something like that in a public setting, much less on video. So WHY did he say it? He might as well have set up a press kit for us, then called the media, given us the contacts and broadcasted it on global TV to let everyone know clearly and concisely just how illogical this ban is.

And it seems like the Tibetan leaderships habit of denying whats obviously a ban, has trickled down to the uneducated masses. The number of Tibetans denying the ban really gets on my nerves. As the shepherd goes, so do the sheep.

BAAAAAAAAAAAA.

[pgdharma]

There are so many proofs of the ban yet the denial! The ban has caused so much violence and disharmony which contradicts the practice of Buddhism which emphasis on compassion. What happened to all the teachings HHDL preaches on loving kindness, tolerance, compassion and peace? How can HHDL say he rejoices that the monks are kicked out of the monasteries because they practice Dorje Shugden??? All these violence actually took place, yet the stupid silly people still keep saying it never happened. There is no need for the ID cards, registration forms and signage if there isn’t a ban? Come on CTA, wake up!!! Look at all the evidence clearly. No one has the right to take away a person’s rights to religious freedom!

[Rihanna]

Of course they claim that there is no ban. Why do you think they are always touring the US? It has to be to raise funds. And where do you think the funds go to??? To organise and fund the suppression and violent campaigns against Shugdenpas and their personal interests. How else then can the key people in CTA buy houses in countries like the US and Australia and send their kids to schools and colleges in those countries with their meagre salaries? The US constitution stands for religious freedom as fundamental human right. By claiming that there is no ban is their way of tricking the US donors to support them for their personal agendas. Once the Americans find out of their lies and hypocrisy, it will be the end of their game plan. Thank you for publishing such a clear and concise proof of their 'antics'. Exposé time!

[dsiluvu]

How can all these clear evidences, video and pictures lie? How can anyone ignore this and dare claim that there is no such thing as a ban on Dorje Shugden practitioners?

When I see so many thousands of Tibetans act so angrily and attacking the monks of Dokhang, this is really a disgrace to the Tibetan leadership, society and Buddhism as a whole as they are a Buddhist nation and His Holiness is preaching religious tolerance, harmony, loving kindness. Why is it that the Tibetans and sanghas not practising this then?

How on earth, or where on earth have we ever heard that you will get a "fine" if you do not join the "protest". My lord, what is this, sounds like a threat to me.

This is really a sign of the degenerate times where Buddhist clashes with their own brothers and sisters. It reminds me of Buddha's prophesy that Buddhism will destroy itself. So shameful, really we must bring this ban down that goes against our human rights law and freedom!

[Tenzin K]

It’s a great article showing the evidence of how the CTA create the separation of the Dorje Shugden practitioners. But it sad and really boils me up to see how the CTA create a miserable life for the Lord Shugden practitioners by not allowing them to shop, to school, to get medical treatment, their identity card and etc. What kind of freedom we are listening here whereby so many evidences show how cruel the practitioners being treated and it was so sad seeing the lay people together with the monks and nuns riot against the practitioners and how the influences created to hurt the practitioners. How and where in the Buddhist teaching teaches one to hurt another being? Aren’t that compassion that we learn and also what HH Dalai Lama teaching and tell to the world?

The world should know this cruelty to religious freedom. So many suffered. Show the world of the evident to support the ban! Show us the rational of the ban and Stop the violent! No one should suffer from the practice as if it’s really so bad Tibetan Buddhism will not able to spread and continue the great lineage until today as all the great master have been practicing it even until today and they keep reincarnate back and being recognize and continue to turn the wheel of Dharma. If the practice is wrong no way HH Dalai Lama is right because HH was being thought by great master Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche which is also a great Lord Shugden practitioner.

Stop the violent and follow back our Buddhist practice, show the evident for practicing Lord Shugden is wrong in a compassionate way! And stop hurting people for their devotion and faith that never hurt anyone.
 

[Jessie Fong]

There has been much disharmony, violence, loss of lives ... all in the name of bringing down the ban.  This has been ongoing for years, yet they come out and claim that there was never any ban? If so, had all those protests, violence and deaths all been in vain? Why did they not come out earlier to say that there was never a ban? Then many lives would have been saved!!!

Look at all the evidence of signs of the ban. It's as clear as the day.

[christine V]

Already cast out from own country. Already get the same name as "refugees". Already staying in others' people country, still want to have riots against own people in foreign country. Why are the tibetans goes against own tibetan.

Buddhism talk about harmonious, talk about equanimity, talks about peace. Are these remains as theory only? Or as a "marketing" words to get donations from the western?

If there's no ban, why there's an ID card to disclaimer that the person is not Shugden practitioner.
If there's no ban, why there's a separation on the monasteries?
Shar Ganden and Shatse Garden ...
If there's no ban, why the monks who practice Dorje Shugden have to be beaten.

It is very heartsick to look at how Dorje Shugden practitioner were ill treated. It is very pain to see because of this unreasonable banned, Amongst Buddhist there are no harmony, create doubt on people who are new to Buddhism and definitely bringing very bad images to Dalai Lama. People from other's religion, even people in China looks at Dalai Lama actions on this banned as a laughing stock.

Just leave the banned. Please don't create shame to Buddhism .

[lotus1]

Thank you DorjeShugden.com for sharing this video. Now we can see clearly how the monks of Dokhang Khangtsen were badly treated and harmed. I have been to Shar Gaden and heard the monks shared about how they are treated during the ban. This video shows clearly the evidence that what the monks in Shar Gaden shared is true, what DorjeShugden.com shared all these while is true. The Dorje Shugden practitioners are being violently discriminated!

Let’s share and social media this article and video widely so that more people will know the truth. Buddhism is about peace and compassion. Let’s work together to lift the ban! 

[maricisun]

The video shows that the Dalai Lama is covering the violence at Dokhang Khangtsen monastery. His Holiness keeps saying that there is no violence but a peaceful protest but the people went there well prepared with bricks and even an ambulance were there. If not for the police the monastery may be burned down.
Every one are in some way forced to go against the monks as HHDL says he will not revoke the ban
 and whoever do not listen to his words, the situation will grow worse for them.
How can great lineage masters who have been practicing Dorje Shugden 300 years ago be wrong? Not one great attained masters but so many of them. Why takes so long to realise the mistakes?
Buddhism is about wisdom and compassion. Where is the compassion to all Dorje Shugden practitioners then?
Time to lift the ban!

[Vajraprotector]

I am surprised that many anti-shugden practitioners do not know the real story of the ban. Indifference? Perhaps because it is not their families being persecuted. Perhaps their family members are allowed to go to school and work normally, perhaps no one in their family has been chased out of a shop and stopped from buying supplies. Perhaps they never thought that for the rest of their lives, as a Tibetan, they are never allowed to attend His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama's teachings anymore when anyone in the world with whatever background is allowed to.

If they don’t believe that there is a ban and think dorjeshugden.com is a propaganda website, how about hearing from the words of His Holiness the Dalai Lama himself:
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/contradiction-in-the-dalai-lamas-public-statements/

I visited the monasteries and the settlements and saw for myself. I am aghast at the suffering: some families had to stop contacting their family members because of this ban, some Gurus cannot meet their disciples because of this ban. There is no religious freedom! I used to support the Tibetan cause, but because of this ban, I really am ashamed of supporting the Tibetans and the Tibetan cause because it has create a doubt in me that a government that treats his own citizens like second class citizens should not be given a chance to harm its citizen more. Perhaps China can lead Tibet towards secular development that is much better than Tibetans who put down, harm and persecute their own people?

In 1989 His Holiness was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his non-violent struggle for the liberation of Tibet. Dalai Lama has consistently advocated policies of non-violence, even in the face of extreme aggression and was the first Nobel Laureate to be recognised for his concern for global environmental problems. Yet, amidst all these, why is violence allowed in his own backyard? Why did the Dalai Lama continue to uphold this ban that causes many Tibetans to be harm by Tibetans?

[DharmaSpace]

Thanks to the Internet it is the great equaliser. When someone says something everyone can check whether or not it is true or not.

You can't say something on the internet and not have it known all over the world. The 14th Dalai lama is one of the greatest Lamas of our time and for many generations. Yet the Dalai Lama despite the 'cunning' monk that he is portrayed by his detractors seems to fumble here and there. A person like His Holiness will fumble like a greenhorn quarterback, hello?   

I thank the Dalai Lama to keep playing the role with Dorje Shugden/Manjushri to spread Lama Tsongkhapa's teaching   and preserve the Middle View.

For the Tibetans they really need to know why would their precious Dalai Lama make so many amateurish mistakes in the world now. The Dalai Lama sits with the cream of crop amongst quantum physicists the smartest people in the world, do the Tibetans the Dalai Lama is in the business of 'fumbling'? 

The demonstrations are not meant to hurt the Tibetans or damage His Holiness but we do need to lift the ban as people suffering and after twenty years it is time for the lifting once the Dalai Lama has sread Dorje Shugden around the globe.   

[Matibhadra]

Dalai Lama has consistently advocated policies of non-violence,

Instigating gruesome self-immolations and bloody racist riots, right?

even in the face of extreme aggression

Which aggression, except for his own?

The 14th Dalai lama is one of the greatest Lamas of our time and for many generations.

Someone who despises and scorns his own root gurus does not qualify even as a Buddhist practitioner, let alone as a ”lama”.

And, do not allow yourself to be fooled by propaganda, what makes a ”great lama” is not presstitute promotion.

The Dalai Lama sits with the cream of crop amongst quantum physicists the smartest people in the world,

Which shows how stupid even supposedly smart quantum physicists can be.

[eyesoftara]

It is really an eye opener that the Dalai Lama is lying in-spite of all the evidence and even the reporter said that he saw it with his own eyes; the Dalai Lama insisted that it is not true and that there was no violence. The Dalai Lama has his own definition of what is a ban, what is violence and what is a lie. He seems from our point of view, deluded. It is causing confusions to everyone and perhaps in the face of overwhelming evidence, that this the best way out for him.

We need to expose Him and the dastard acts of the CTA for the world to see. The sufferings of 4 million practitioners must be stopped immediately. Please use the social media, tell your family and friends about this. Take action!