Who Corrupted the Minds of all these Good People?

[icy]

I would like to share this well written article by Neil Elliott with my Shugden friends.  Neil Elliott writes about how the Dalai Lama and CTA have corrupted the innocent minds of good people through their false propaganda and trusting and unsuspecting people fall prey to a charismatic religious leader.  Such are the crimes of the Tibetan leadership in conning the world at large. 


Neil Elliott
Who corrupted the minds of all these good people?

The Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) recently published a statement purporting to come from a group of Italian Buddhist Centres and dutifully signed by them, but which clearly came originally from the Dalai Lama and the CTA.

There was nothing new in the statement, just the same old tired narrative of baseless accusations and thinly veiled threats against those who rely upon Buddha Dorje Shugden.

When you read a document like this, the question that comes to mind is: 'How can those who do not rely upon Buddha Dorje Shugden possibly know his true nature and function?'

From where do they get the 'information' they so confidently present as fact?

From the Dalai Lama of course.

But why should they believe what he says? According to his own version of events, for years he made the 'mistake' of worshipping a 'malevolent spirit' thinking he was an enlightened being. Then he did some 'research' and discovered it was a 'mistake'!

Let's get this straight. 'His Holiness the reincarnation of the XIII Dalai Lama', a 'fully enlightened being who is an incarnation of the Buddha of Compassion' couldn't tell the difference between a malevolent spirit and an enlightened being!

Believe that and you'll believe anything.

Knock on the door
On the face of it, it would seem that many do. But if the truth be told the vast majority who fall in behind the Dalai Lama neither understand nor have any conviction in what they are saying.

Many in the Tibetan community have been cowered into denouncing the Deity they worship by witnessing the cruel retribution inflicted on those who refuse.

Cowered by the ruthless abuse of power by the Dalai Lama whose decision to abandon his Spiritual Guide and Protector was driven entirely by political considerations and had nothing to do with religion.

When the Dalai Lama publicly, from a teaching throne, commanded his subjects to recant their faith or face a 'knock on the door' from his henchmen, most reluctantly chose to recant.

But there is much evidence to indicate that although they are prevented from making any public show of their faith, deep in their hearts many of them are still devoted to Buddha Dorje Shugden. Their psychological torment is almost unimaginable, and only those who have suffered religious persecution themselves can truly feel their pain.

Corrupting innocent minds
Perhaps it is understandable that Tibetans, who in almost every respect depend upon the CTA and therefore the Dalai Lama for their livelihood, should allow themselves to be bullied into publicly recanting.

But why on earth do people outside of the Tibetan community buy into the Dalai Lama's warped views and slavishly promulgate them as if they know what they are talking about, when clearly they do not?

Why do those who live in modern democratic societies readily suspend their critical judgement, believe unquestioningly what they are told to believe, and agree to take part in what is effectively a medieval witch hunt?

Who used his celebrity status to corrupt the minds of these good people? Who turned them against their fellow Buddhists and encouraged them to ban from their centres and events anyone he disapproves of?

The Dalai Lama, of course.

And what was the reason he gave for creating such a deep sectarian divide in the international Buddhist community?

That the followers of Dorje Shugden encourage sectarianism!

Unscrupulous propaganda
It beggars belief until you look closely at the methods being used here. To commit an iniquitous action and then deflect public scrutiny by accusing your victims of doing that very thing is a well known propaganda technique used by dictators and oppressive regimes throughout history to dupe whole populations of well-meaning people. And sadly, the more brazen you are, the bigger the lie, the more effective it is!

The Dalai Lama, of course, benefits from a massive propaganda machine financed originally by the CIA and now by the exorbitant fees he commands for his public appearances. This corrupt, self-serving entity thinks nothing of using unscrupulous techniques such as disinformation, crude innuendo, or even bare faced lies to maintain its grip on power and continue to rake in vast sums of money from honest well-meaning people they have duped.

Compared to this massive web of corruption, the meagre resources of those he is out to destroy would seem to count for very little in the public eye.

Except they possess one thing the Dalai Lama and his cronies entirely lack - the truth!

And in the end the truth will out.

No matter how shiny an apple might appear on the outside, if it is rotten inside sooner or later the rot will become visible. Then no one will choose to buy it.

[Galen]

What was said is very true. It is the Dalai Lama, under the then TGIE, who enforced the ban on Dorje Shugden claiming that there will be 2 consequences that will harm Tibet. First, the Dalai Lama's life will be shortened and in danger, second, it will hinder the Tibetan cause i.e. for Tibet to gain independence from China.

With this ban, Tibetans just follow blindly without making their own rational choices. And they followed without knowing that they act like hooligans by hurting and discriminating people of their own kind.

The truths, if Tibetans care to find out, are:

1. The Dalai Lamas before this propitiates Dorje Shugden.
2. It was Dorje Shugden, throughout the oracle, advised the Dalai Lama to leave Tibet before the Chinese invasion. Else, the Dalai Lama would not have escaped.
3. During the escape, the Dalai Lama had a DS thangka (given by Trijang Rinpoche) with him to protect him and his entourage, to get to safety. This was confirmed by the Chuchi Gangdruk, the escorting guards. However, the story was changed subsequently by the Dalai Lama.
4. If DS is a spirit, those who propitiates any spirit would be reborn in hell. BUT, we keep on seeing high lamas reincarnating back to turn the Dharma wheel, the likes of Trijang Rinpoche, Domo Geshe Rinpoche, Pabongkha Rinpoche, Denma Gonsar Rinpoche..... etc.

The CTA now has power to uplift the ban should they want to unite Tibetans across the globe. For once do something right before it is too late.

[dondrup]

A well-written article indeed.

Tibetan Dorje Shugden followers who has not given up their faith in Dorje Shugden are genuine Buddhists. Whereas for those Tibetans who has actually given up Dorje Shugden, they have broken their refuge vows and are no longer Buddhists. How could these non-Buddhists interfere and oppose Dorje Shugden followers who are the genuine Buddhists?  The biggest irony is why would non Tibetans succumb to HHDL's lies? Do these proponents of the ban have anything to gain from HHDL and CTA, knowing very well HHDL's reasons for the ban is totally illogical and unfounded?
 
Wake up and not be fooled by the idiosyncrasies of HHDL's reasoning of the ban.

[AnneQ]

Wow this is quite an explosive article and an interesting read. Although I do agree with many points the author, Neil Elliot, has stated in his article, I do like to comment on the statement as quoted below.

But why on earth do people outside of the Tibetan community buy into the Dalai Lama's warped views and slavishly promulgate them as if they know what they are talking about, when clearly they do not?

Why do those who live in modern democratic societies readily suspend their critical judgement, believe unquestioningly what they are told to believe, and agree to take part in what is effectively a medieval witch hunt?

Who used his celebrity status to corrupt the minds of these good people? Who turned them against their fellow Buddhists and encouraged them to ban from their centres and events anyone he disapproves of?

The Dalai Lama, of course.

To be fair, many of HHDL's Western followers have absolutely no inkling, idea or knowledge of what or who Dorje Shudgen is. In the Western world, many of his followers just admire HHDL as a holy and spiritual Buddhist monk who has spiritual answers to their soul searching questions of modern life. People follow him because they believe him to be highly attained, a living Buddha who has vast dharma knowledge which makes sense in today's senseless world. I speak from my experience because I was once and still is an admirer of HHDL, but I have now taken a middle view of why HHDL did what he did. Like the many ignorant Western followers of HHDL, I was unaware of Dorje Shudgen and how the practitioners have suffered under the ban. For me the DS matter only came to light by accident when a relative spoke to me about HHDL and DS ban and my views on it. Initially I had no impressions because it was all just political to me and I was not interested. But out of curiosity I looked up DS online and found this excellent website. I have since changed my political views on Tibetan Buddhism and now an advocate for the DS struggle, but also maintained to not strike at HHDL because if it weren't for him, I would not have discovered Buddhism and improved my life.

[Matibhadra]

but also maintained to not strike at HHDL because if it weren't for him, I would not have discovered Buddhism and improved my life.

Some people also came to know about Buddhism through the terrorist Shoko Asahara (by the way a close friend of his terrorist colleague, the evil dalai).

Also the children of Osama bin Laden owe their own life to the evil terrorist, but this does not change the fact that, just like the evil dalai, he is an evil terrorist.

You put your ego way too high. Just because you feel grateful to an evil terrorist, you want to forbid others to recognize the reality that he is an evil terrorist.

[Blueupali]

Yes, the idea that
 1. the Dalai Lama, given that he is taken as Buddha of Compassion
 and B. the Buddha of compassion was worshiping an evil spirit, mistaking him for Buddha Manjushri
 and 3. the Buddha of compassion, an omniscient being, researched this, and realized oh! this is an evil spirit, which if I were the Buddha of compassion  I would  have known any way people.... QED I am not falling for this or buying this okay.  Show me the logic people....
 

  I am floored by how many of his followers demonize Trijang and Pabongka Rinpoches--- they are really quite unaware then, of the great master's place in the lineage?
 

[Matibhadra]

I am floored by how many of his followers demonize Trijang and Pabongka Rinpoches--- they are really quite unaware then, of the great master's place in the lineage?

Which lineage? Such vow breakers have no Buddhist lineage. The are not Buddhist, the are dalaites, followers of the evil personality cult centered around the terrorist dalai.

[Blueupali]

I am floored by how many of his followers demonize Trijang and Pabongka Rinpoches--- they are really quite unaware then, of the great master's place in the lineage?

Which lineage? Such vow breakers have no Buddhist lineage. The are not Buddhist, the are dalaites, followers of the evil personality cult centered around the terrorist dalai.

Okay, Jspitanga, I grant you that the Dalai has broken with his lineage and corrupted the teachings--- to me he is not a qualified teacher.  However, his followers, while tricked and misguided do have refuge (and therefore are Buddhists) if they are sincerely going for refuge to the three Jewels.  The Dalai Lama followers often say Shugden people have no refuge--- which is quite bizarre, since view is so important.  Even if they do not recognize a particular aspect of Buddha as such, the view of the person and motive is most important--- so if we see someone as a Buddha we get the blessings of the Buddha.... so they are still getting the blessings of the Buddha, even though they are projecting Buddha onto the Dalai Lama.  So, what would be good though, is if these guys would learn and do some research--- they have made a big mistake in just listening to anything this Dalai politician says as fact, good or wisdom.

[Matibhadra]

Okay, Jspitanga, I grant you that the Dalai has broken with his lineage and corrupted the teachings--- to me he is not a qualified teacher. However, his followers, while tricked and misguided do have refuge (and therefore are Buddhists) if they are sincerely going for refuge to the three Jewels.

One cannot possibly go for refuge to the Three Jewels while relying on a vow-breaker, and supporting his vow-breaking actions, such as defaming and deriding lineage gurus, causing schism within the Sangha, praising and encouraging suicide, and so forth. Therefore, there is not one single Buddhist among the followers of the evil dalai.

The Dalai Lama followers often say Shugden people have no refuge--- which is quite bizarre, since view is so important.

Why should Buddhists care about what vow-breakings dalaites say?

Even if they do not recognize a particular aspect of Buddha as such, the view of the person and motive is most important--- so if we see someone as a Buddha we get the blessings of the Buddha.... so they are still getting the blessings of the Buddha,

Since the minions of the evil dalai misconceive ”buddha” as an evil person, capable of inciting suicide, causing schism within the Sangha, and of defaming his root gurus, for those minions conceiving the evil dalai as a ”buddha” is the same as conceiving the evil dalai as an evil person, which is precisely the case.

Therefore, they only get the evil blessing (a word derived from ”blood”) of an evil, bloody person, such as the evil dalai.

even though they are projecting Buddha onto the Dalai Lama.

The evil dalai's minions, in their murderous collective hysteria, are just projecting their own tenebrous instincts on the evil dalai, because he is a suitable basis for this projection, and calling it ”buddha” in their primitive attempt to justify and whitewash their own collective criminality.

So, what would be good though, is if these guys would learn and do some research--- they have made a big mistake in just listening to anything this Dalai politician says as fact, good or wisdom.

Which shows that they lack any Buddhist refuge, that they are not Buddhists, that they see evil as good, that they have only the bloody blessings of a nefarious terrorist, that they are just the corrupt followers of the depraved personality cult centered on the evil dalai.

[WisdomBeing]

What was said is very true. It is the Dalai Lama, under the then TGIE, who enforced the ban on Dorje Shugden claiming that there will be 2 consequences that will harm Tibet. First, the Dalai Lama's life will be shortened and in danger, second, it will hinder the Tibetan cause i.e. for Tibet to gain independence from China.

With this ban, Tibetans just follow blindly without making their own rational choices. And they followed without knowing that they act like hooligans by hurting and discriminating people of their own kind.

The truths, if Tibetans care to find out, are:

1. The Dalai Lamas before this propitiates Dorje Shugden.
2. It was Dorje Shugden, throughout the oracle, advised the Dalai Lama to leave Tibet before the Chinese invasion. Else, the Dalai Lama would not have escaped.
3. During the escape, the Dalai Lama had a DS thangka (given by Trijang Rinpoche) with him to protect him and his entourage, to get to safety. This was confirmed by the Chuchi Gangdruk, the escorting guards. However, the story was changed subsequently by the Dalai Lama.
4. If DS is a spirit, those who propitiates any spirit would be reborn in hell. BUT, we keep on seeing high lamas reincarnating back to turn the Dharma wheel, the likes of Trijang Rinpoche, Domo Geshe Rinpoche, Pabongkha Rinpoche, Denma Gonsar Rinpoche..... etc.

The CTA now has power to uplift the ban should they want to unite Tibetans across the globe. For once do something right before it is too late.

So many lies propagated by the Dalai Lama. Isn't lying one of the first precepts that we take as Buddhists? Yet he lies and his followers get upset when people call him a liar.

The Dalai Lama would know that Dorje Shugden helped him escape Tibet and he would know that the thangka he carried on his back was NOT of Palden Lhamo as he now says but it was of Dorje Shugden. These two facts alone should be enough to declare him a liar, let alone his calling Dorje Shugden a spirit etc. And that there is no ban on Dorje Shugden.

So many lies. Yet his followers blindly believe. Sad. and harmful. But karma will arise.

[Matibhadra]

So many lies propagated by the Dalai Lama. Isn't lying one of the first precepts that we take as Buddhists? Yet he lies

Which is further evidence that the pernicious entity is anything except for a Buddhist. And, considering that he not only lies, but also promotes mass suicides, such the more than 120 ”self-immolations”, and bloody racist riots, such as the one which killed more than 100 innocent Chinese in Lhasa in March 2008, including vulnerable children, women and elders, it is clear that we are dealing with a most depraved terrorist.

Osama bin Laden stated clearly that murdering children, women and the elder is a valid method in his jihad. ISIL terrorists in Iraq and Syria right now are following the same method, mass murdering anyone who does not convert to their version of Islam. The evil dalai, just like them a Muslim and a Western-sponsored terrorist, is not different, and in his fanatical jihadistic witch-hunt would do even worse if he had the power.

and his followers get upset when people call him a liar.

The evil dalai's minions, the followers of his evil personality cult East and West, are not less depraved than their cultish fetish, the evil dalai. Therefore they rejoice on lies, on instigating mass murderings, on creating schism within the Sangha, on defaming and deriding lineage gurus, and on every other kind of depravity. But of course, as a part of their depraved characters, they are also hypocrites, whence their affected reaction when they are identified for what they are, such a liars, terrorists, and so forth.

[Blueupali]

Okay, Jspitanga, I grant you that the Dalai has broken with his lineage and corrupted the teachings--- to me he is not a qualified teacher. However, his followers, while tricked and misguided do have refuge (and therefore are Buddhists) if they are sincerely going for refuge to the three Jewels.

One cannot possibly go for refuge to the Three Jewels while relying on a vow-breaker, and supporting his vow-breaking actions, such as defaming and deriding lineage gurus, causing schism within the Sangha, praising and encouraging suicide, and so forth. Therefore, there is not one single Buddhist among the followers of the evil dalai.

Well I disagree, that they are not Buddhists; the view I take is that we go for refuge to Buddha Dharma and Sangha.  Now if an individual harms someone then that does create a problem for refuge; so if a lama incites violence, following his advice is a bad idea.  However, the sad truth is that most people don't know what the Dalai is up to; they think they are following a Buddha--- I heard a story a long time ago when I was a Kagyu that some monks were once following a demon but they had pure view so they all took higher rebirths--- because you see they still had refuge--- we need to consider that people just look at this guy's photo on a book and are told he's a Buddha--- they may not know much at first--- Buddhist refuge depends on the outlook and sincerity of the practitioner.  We want to notice they are Buddhists, okay?  And then we can remind them of the Buddha's teachings in a skillful way.

[Matibhadra]

Well I disagree, that they are not Buddhists; the view I take is that we go for refuge to Buddha Dharma and Sangha.

Wrong. One can for refuge to just anything. And whoever goes for refuge to an evil terrorist and vow-breaker does not go for refuge to the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha.

Now if an individual harms someone then that does create a problem for refuge; so if a lama incites violence, following his advice is a bad idea.

Not only it is a bad idea, it means that one gives up and breaks one's Buddhist refuge.

However, the sad truth is that most people don't know what the Dalai is up to;

Of course they know, that being precisely why they support him and his evil deeds, such as witch-hunts, encouraging mass suicide, supporting bloody riots, and so forth.

they think they are following a Buddha---

This is because they misconceive ”Buddha” as ”terrorist”, and since they support terrorism, they support the so-called ”Buddha”, the evil dalai.

I heard a story a long time ago when I was a Kagyu that some monks were once following a demon but they had pure view so they all took higher rebirths--- because you see they still had refuge---

Then for you supporting a terrorist, knowing that he is a terrorist, and because one loves terrorism, is ”pure view”, right?

we need to consider that people just look at this guy's photo on a book and are told he's a Buddha--- they may not know much at first---

Of course they know. Everybody knows that the evil dalai is promoting witch-hunts, mass suicides, and bloody riots. The problem is that many people simply *agree* with such crimes, and therefore admire the evil terrorist dalai.

Buddhist refuge depends on the outlook and sincerity of the practitioner.

Then you see a ”pure outlook” and a lot of ”sincerity” in people supporting witch-hunts, mass suicides, and bloody riots, and therefore the evil dalai, right?

We want to notice they are Buddhists, okay? 

You want to notice that terrorism-supporters are Buddhists, but this is your personal problem.

And then we can remind them of the Buddha's teachings in a skillful way.

Go ahead, but considering that they go for refuge to an evil terrorist, they are likely not much interested in Buddhism. Good luck, anyway.

[grandmapele]

In my opinion, Buddhism has degenerated so badly that followers cannot understand the Dharma. They choose to see the Dalai Lama as a God rather than an emanation of the Boddhisattva Chenrezig. Mix this with the tales the CTA has to spin to distract the Tibetans from the real issue of their status, this is indeed very sad times.

Thank you to those at dorjeshugden.com for sharing the real dharma.

[kelly]

The poor Tibetan who are so innocent not knowing what us right or wrong just blindly follow. I believe all these accusation will end once the ban us lifted, for the time being we just have to hang on to our practice because the true will review .