Stasi Tenzin Peljor aka Michael Jäckel aka Mick Jackman

[Rowntree]

Some one is really unhappy with Mr. Peljor who is supposed to be the "holder of the Buddhist doctrine" (Tenzin) and  "glorious wealth" (Peljor) to spread this on Twitter for the past few days. From his track record, it is obvious that Mr. Peljor is nothing but a loser who remains in the robes because he couldn't achieve anything in the secular world. It is less competitive in the Buddhist scene where the majority are more interested in enlightenment and spiritual growth. In fact, he seems to be the ONLY one in the scene who focuses on un-Buddhist activities, i.e. start fights, creates websites to criticise everyone who is against his view as if his view is the ultimate one, lack of self discipline, look for opportunities to have fame regardless of the means etc.

His career of a "famous" un-monkly monk really kicked off when he took ordination with the Dalai Lama who has the fame for him to ride on and the unlawful ban of Dorje Shugden for him to criticise about. If you go to his blog, you read nothing but criticism about others and he is paid well for making criticism and at the same time allows him to rub in the idea that he is a famous and sort after Buddhist teacher. Buddha taught about non-divisive speech, no gossip, no harsh words and no idle chatter, but you find that on Peljor's site. What kind of Buddhist teacher is he?

His words really reflects who he really is on the inside - words reflect one's mind. It is apparent that Mr. Peljor's interest is not spiritual for he has disrobed twice before his THIRD ordination under the Dalai Lama after serious considerations which of the teachers can really bring him fame and money. Negative threads are too easy to identity, so are cyber trails and all these can be easily traced when the real victims he has been defaming for legal actions.

People like Peljor should go behind the bars for he is lacked of self discipline and could be suffering from serious mental illnesses before further harm will be done by him. Otherwise, why would he interprets the Buddha's teaching wrongly and did everything that opposed to it?

[thaimonk]

Mr. Tenzin Paljor has disrobed twice already? You are kidding? He takes nothing spiritual steadfast. It says alot about him and nothing good at all. He wears robes for business purposes. What a bad representative of the sangha. Makes people lose faith.

His words really reflects who he really is on the inside - words reflect one's mind. It is apparent that Mr. Peljor's interest is not spiritual for he has disrobed twice before his THIRD ordination under the Dalai Lama after serious considerations which of the teachers can really bring him fame and money. Negative threads are too easy to identity, so are cyber trails and all these can be easily traced when the real victims he has been defaming for legal actions.

People like Peljor should go behind the bars for he is lacked of self discipline and could be suffering from serious mental illnesses before further harm will be done by him. Otherwise, why would he interprets the Buddha's teaching wrongly and did everything that opposed to it?

[Matibhadra]

You accomplish nothing by calling the Dalai Lama "dalie".

How cute! Now we have a valiant dalie valet among us! How then shall I call your evil dalie?

Anyway say what you want, I couldn't give a crap about Shugden and whatever deities you want to believe in.

You see a lot of crap indeed! Which dalie-sanctioned crappy “guru” put so much crap inside your head?

I'm here for Tenzin Peljor

Who cares. You fight with Peljor is just a minor infight among evil dalie minions jealous of each other.

and Peljor has made it a career for himself out of attacking other people.

Who cares. Caring about the career of others is just more of the the crap some crappy dalie-sanctioned “guru” put in your head.

So yes, he can end. Just turn off his damn websites.

Maybe he simply does not want to end anything, which is his problem.

Is bothering about the websites of others some kind of crappy “great perfection” you learned from some crappy dalie-sanctioned “guru”?

[Matibhadra]

The following passage, excerpted from Dialogue Ireland (DI) https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/briefing-document-on-sogyal-rinpoche/ and referring to an evil dalie's protegé may provide an interesting background to the current discussion (and may also shed light on possible connections between sexual perversion and religious hatred, even specifically anti-Shugden hatred):

In 1994, a $10 million civil lawsuit was filed against Sogyal Rinpoche in the US. It was alleged that over a period of many years, Rinpoche had used his position as a spiritual leader to induce large numbers of female students to have sexual intercourse with him. As well as alleging sexual impropriety, the particular complaint included counts of intentionally inflicting emotional distress (as had been the case with the French assistant DI encountered at the LSE Inform conference) plus one count of assault and battery. In December 1995, the issue was settled out of court through mediation.It is believed that, while initially and as a result of the mediation, it was agreed that Sogyal would retire from public life and not teach again, eventually sufficient funds, amounting to several millions of US dollars, were procured to ensure Sogyal’s continued liberty to teach.

In his defence, his supporters have repeatedly argued that lamas of Sogyal’s Nyingma School are not required to take vows of celibacy and indeed, Sogyal is not a monk.Nor in fact, was the central role model of the school, its founder, Padmasambhava, who had five tantric consorts who were also his students.Moreover, his supporters claim, while there is a precept against sexual misconduct in Buddhism, with respect to a non-monastic lama this precept is rather limited in scope and would apply ‘only if the female is not free but rather under the protection of her father, mother, husband, king or herself bound by a vow of celibacy.’

This calculated response however, does not take into account the fact that, a) Sogyal Rinpoche may not possess the same level of tantric realisation of as the ‘Second Buddha’, Padmasambhava (despite, as we shall see, his claims to the opposite), and b) as well as the above precept, there are further precepts for Buddhist tantric practitioners which prohibit engaging in sexual acts with unqualified partners, precepts which Sogyal’s supporters would probably have been well aware of but, for some strange reason, neglected to refer to. While the eighth century milieu of Padmasambhava was primarily a tantric Buddhist one and would therefore have led on occasion to his encountering qualified consorts, it would be highly unusual for so many young and inexperienced Western victims of Sogyal to possess all of the relevant qualifications, particularly as many were new converts to the faith and therefore could not have possessed any of the numerous necessary prerequisite teachings and initiations.

If Sogyal is not a great tantric yogi and had plain old run-of-the-mill sex with these unqualified victims, while at the same time the latter were expecting to be healed by the ‘tantric experience’ his supposed status promised, then, despite his disciple’s protestations, these acts would amount to nothing more than adult ritualised sexual abuse at the hands of a very ordinary, fat and balding, middle aged man with a penchant for beer, food, praise, TV, and sleep. The 10th century Buddhist master Dharmarakshita’s ‘Peacock in the Poison Grove’ demonstrated the traditional Buddhist position on such devious acts:

‘For the sake of material gain you assume the guise of a noble one: Like dogs and pigs you indulge in lustful acts, Deceiving all with the claim that this is tantra— You should be burned in a hearth by vajra holders….Those who lead the foolish with no graduated stages of the path should be brought to the level of dogs by the learned ones.’

[PrajNa]

So yes, he can end. Just turn off his damn websites.

Maybe he simply does not want to end anything, which is his problem.

Is bothering about the websites of others some kind of crappy “great perfection” you learned from some crappy dalie-sanctioned “guru”?

It is obvious Peljor doesn't want this to end as that would mean the end of fame for Peljor, Mcquire, Ciardiello et al. Peljor won't survive as his 'scholarly-journalist' reporting needs an outlet. Mcquire et al won't be happy losing her privilege as a 'special guest' at Dalai Lama's or CTA's events. (read more: http://www.arebuddhistsracist.com/when_buddhists_lie.html)

The rest would be depressed if there is no more Celebrity Photo Ops with the Dalai Lama to feel important. It's only been more than 3 months since their last 'appearance' in "Shugden Protesters: Allegations versus Facts" 

Look at the picture of the Dalai Lama with NKT Survivors during their meeting in Cambridge, UK on September 18, 2015 and see who were featured in the 13-minute documentary film produced by Ms Tenzin Dhardon Sharling of the Department of Information and International Relations (DIIR). Why would they want to give up on opportunities to 'stardom'?

[KarmaRangdrol]

So yes, he can end. Just turn off his damn websites.

Maybe he simply does not want to end anything, which is his problem.

Is bothering about the websites of others some kind of crappy “great perfection” you learned from some crappy dalie-sanctioned “guru”?

It is obvious Peljor doesn't want this to end as that would mean the end of fame for Peljor, Mcquire, Ciardiello et al. Peljor won't survive as his 'scholarly-journalist' reporting needs an outlet. Mcquire et al won't be happy losing her privilege as a 'special guest' at Dalai Lama's or CTA's events. (read more: http://www.arebuddhistsracist.com/when_buddhists_lie.html)

The rest would be depressed if there is no more Celebrity Photo Ops with the Dalai Lama to feel important. It's only been more than 3 months since their last 'appearance' in "Shugden Protesters: Allegations versus Facts" 

Look at the picture of the Dalai Lama with NKT Survivors during their meeting in Cambridge, UK on September 18, 2015 and see who were featured in the 13-minute documentary film produced by Ms Tenzin Dhardon Sharling of the Department of Information and International Relations (DIIR). Why would they want to give up on opportunities to 'stardom'?

PrajNa, it is also obvious Matibhadra doesn't want this to end. His sarcasm is boring and strangely, he seems to sanction Tenzin Peljor's behaviour and attack others who could possibly share the same as him. What's wrong with him? Time to lay off the hallucinogenics.

[Matibhadra]

Look at the picture of the Dalai Lama with NKT Survivors

In fact, Shugdenpas are from the start the actual cult survivors, the evil dalie-cult survivors.

At the same time that the megalomaniac mass murderer, the fake “5th” evil dalie, became the theocratic absolutistic Tibetan cult-leader, in cahoots with his Nyingma associates, and started his attempts to force Nyingma theories and mythologies on pure Gelugpa tenets, the tradition of Dorje Shugden started as a consequence, as the way out of the novel dalaite absolutistic personality cult imposed on Tibetans.

A cult is about using a fakery of religion for money and power, under the leadership of a divinized cult leader (or even his mere image), which is the precise description of the corrupt dalaite establishment, from its inception to the present times. Shugdenpas therefore are and have always been the actual cult survivors.

[Matibhadra]

he [Matibhadra] seems to sanction Tenzin Peljor's behaviour and attack others who could possibly share the same as him

This ridiculous quarrel between Peljorpas and Sogyalites is just an infight among dalaite factions struggling for the favor of their evil capo mafioso. Something as the fight of evil against evil.

The evil dalie is obviously ambivalent. While he silences about the sexual scandals haunting Sogyal, and even joins Sogyal and war criminal Sarkozy's wife on public appearances, he also supports Peljor anti-Sogyal rants.

The evil dalie plays both parties against each other, and thus ensures his power over both. This is the way experienced mafiosi work with their lackeys.

Meanwhile, Shugdenpas have nothing to do with it, because they are into pure Dharma, not into dirty power politics, and they don't need either the support of Sogyal minions, or of any abettor of the evil dalie to that effect.

[ShugdenProtector]

Thinking about it more along these same lines... what kind of monk is this Peljor dude? Why did he take the robes and then disrobe TWICE??? Shows you what a fickle minded person he is. And what exactly did he get up to when he was not in robes? What made him decided to take on the robes again? Easy money, fame, recognition? He seems extremely fishy to me and very suspicious to me... maybe he likes the "soap" hahaha.

He should really check in on himself first before going around criticising and judging others. Real Buddhist monks do not do that, I don't think Buddha taught that, if he did then why bother being a monk/nun/Buddhist and to practice compassion? Why even create or take the refuge vows? Poor Peljor, now he is playing the victim and complaining about the karma he is getting back for all the nasty things he's been doing... well I hope realises it is all in his hands and he can change it. Hope he is smart enough before it is too late and he becomes a star behind bars!  

Mr. Tenzin Paljor has disrobed twice already? You are kidding? He takes nothing spiritual steadfast. It says alot about him and nothing good at all. He wears robes for business purposes. What a bad representative of the sangha. Makes people lose faith.

His words really reflects who he really is on the inside - words reflect one's mind. It is apparent that Mr. Peljor's interest is not spiritual for he has disrobed twice before his THIRD ordination under the Dalai Lama after serious considerations which of the teachers can really bring him fame and money. Negative threads are too easy to identity, so are cyber trails and all these can be easily traced when the real victims he has been defaming for legal actions.

People like Peljor should go behind the bars for he is lacked of self discipline and could be suffering from serious mental illnesses before further harm will be done by him. Otherwise, why would he interprets the Buddha's teaching wrongly and did everything that opposed to it?

[Matibhadra]

what kind of monk is this Peljor dude? Why did he take the robes and then disrobe TWICE???

According to a Buddhist tradition, a monk may disrobe up to seven times in a lifetime.

There seems to be a sutra mentioning a monk who ordained or re-ordained seven times, having disrobed six times, to eventually attain arhantship.

Therefore, Tenzin Peljor's twice disrobing does not in itself serve a basis for criticism.

Besides, why should one waste time and energy looking for and gossiping about other mistakes in the evil dalie's minion, while merely being the follower of the unconscionable criminal already says everything.

Furthermore, the one here most intent on spreading gossips about Peljor is himself the follower of the evil dalie abettor and accomplice, Socyal “Rinpoche”, himself embroiled in countless sexual abuse scandals.

Therefore, we Shugdenpas should refrain from any gossip and from any involvement or taking sides in this perverse fight between disgruntled dalaite factions, and concentrate only on the pure Dharma received from our teachers.

[michaela]

Hey Stasi Tenzin Peljor aka Michael Jäckel aka Mick Jackman

I see that you are promoting your pictures with the Dalai Lama and your 'relationship' with him. The Dalai Lama support Sogyal Rinpoche, why don't you follow his example? Do you want to make the Dalai Lama loo bad?

Michaela

[KarmaRangdrol]

Hey Stasi Tenzin Peljor aka Michael Jäckel aka Mick Jackman

I see that you are promoting your pictures with the Dalai Lama and your 'relationship' with him. The Dalai Lama support Sogyal Rinpoche, why don't you follow his example? Do you want to make the Dalai Lama loo bad?

Michaela

He will never support Sogyal Rimpoche because ultimately he's not in support of the Dalai Lama however much he may claim to be. Nothing he has or does reflects anything the Dalai Lama propagates. I really doubt the Dalai Lama told him to start up his multiple website which are highly critical of Tibetans...

I have recently been wondering though, having been raised in East Germany, maybe Peljor was indoctrinated in some way into Communist USSR thinking. And this has carried through so he's now secretly working for the CCP. It would match all of his erratic behaviour which is obsessed with denouncing his targets. The Commies have always been very fixated with that kind of thing, denouncements.

Anyway in the last few days, Peljor's been travelling trying to rope more people in to his crusade against lamas like Rimpoche. The problem is that his schemes are definitely not legal and whoever gets caught up in them will be legally entangled in his mess too. The more the merrier for the popo!

[Matibhadra]

The Dalai Lama support Sogyal Rinpoche,

Socyal “Rinpoche”, even though closely associated with the evil dalie, has never had the decency to denounce his crimes, and specifically his crimes against Shugdenpas, thus blatantly endorsing such crimes, and becoming an evil dalie's accomplice.

Therefore, isn't it supremely funny that a minion of the evil dalie's accomplice, Socyal Rinpoche, now comes to Shugdenpas looking for help and support in their infight with their beloved evil dalie's minion?

[Matibhadra]

The Commies have always been very fixated with that kind of thing, denouncements.

If so, why don't you learn somenthing from them, and start denouncing Socyal's accomplicity with the evil dalie and his crimes against humanity?

[KarmaRangdrol]

The Dalai Lama support Sogyal Rinpoche,

Socyal “Rinpoche”, even though closely associated with the evil dalie, has never had the decency to denounce his crimes, and specifically his crimes against Shugdenpas, thus blatantly endorsing such crimes, and becoming an evil dalie's accomplice.

Therefore, isn't it supremely funny that a minion of the evil dalie's accomplice, Socyal Rinpoche, now comes to Shugdenpas looking for help and support in their infight with their beloved evil dalie's minion?

Not only does this thread have not relevance to you, since you don't appear capable of sticking to the topic of discussion but I also could not care less about your agenda against the Dalai Lama or about your Shugden practice. You just sound angry and obsessed, and that can't be healthy. I hope something eventually releases you from your obsession which makes you quite like Tenzin Peljor actually, so obsessed against attacking everything and everyone. So much anger. You may not like my lama but at least he has never taught me to become as angry as you.

Good luck to you.