Lobsang Sangay rewrites history (again) to trick the Japanese

[Ringo Starr]

He said, "His Holiness the Dalai Lama belongs to Tibetans and only Tibetans have the right to recognise his reincarnation."


Source:
http://tibet.net/2017/02/one-must-understand-tibet-to-understand-china-sikyong-in-japan/

Any basic research into how the throne of the Dalai Lama got established would reveal the following which makes what Sikyong Sangay said look absolutely bogus and makes his PhD from Harvard, dodgy.

The following is obtained mainly from Wikiwand:

1. The 3rd Dalai Lama was actually the 1st Dalai Lama and installed by his patron and Mongolian warlord Altan Khan who called Sonam Gyatso "Dalai", Mongolian for 'Gyatso' (Ocean). The name "Dalai Lama", by which the lineage later became known throughout the non-Tibetan world, was thus established and it was applied to the first two incarnations retrospectively.

It was a convenient relationship. Altan Khan recognized Sonam Gyatso as the reincarnation of Drogön Chögyal Phagpa, and Sonam Gyatso recognized Altan Khan as the reincarnation of the great Kublai Khan.

2. The 4th Dalai Lama, Yonten Gyatso (1589-1617) was a Mongolian, the great-grandson of Altan Khan. He studied at Drepung and became its abbot but being a non-Tibetan he met with opposition from some Tibetans, especially the Karma Kagyu who felt their position was threatened by these emerging events; there were several attempts to remove him from power. Yonten Gyatso died at the age of 27 under suspicious circumstances.

3.  The government headed by the Mongolian-established Dalai Lama enjoyed the patronage and protection of firstly Mongol kings of the Khoshut and Dzungar Khanates (1642–1720) and then of the emperors of the Manchu-led Qing dynasty (1720–1912).

No Mongol kings, no Qing emperors, no Dalai Lama.

4. The Golden Urn refers to a method introduced since the 18th century to select Tibetan lamas. The 10th and 11th Dalai Lama was selected using this method.

[grandmapele]

Thank you, Ringo Starr for for reminding us once again of the dubious nature of the CTA especially Mr. Sangay how they conveniently ignore history to promote their agenda. Lesser beings would be dubbed by a man of seemingly high intellect and qualifications. Is that why the CTA has not put much emphasis on education for the Tibetans in exile within the Tibetan communities in India?

How sad the plight of these poor Tibetans refugees twice over.

[SabS]

The history of Tibet, Mongolia, China and India are closely intertwined, of state and religious nature. So to claim that the Dalai Lama belongs specifically to Tibet and the Tibetans is ignoring the history as Ringo Starr had kindly reminded us of. I would have thought that Dr. Lobsang Sangay a holder of a PHD degree which usually are heavily based on researches for dissertations, would be concerned about researching accurate facts before making a "fool" of himself so publicly on the world platform. I find it weird that knowing the Dalai Lama is known as Buddha Chenrezig, his holiness belongs to everyone and anyone who is in need of the precious Dharma, His Holiness should not be belonging to this or that. Why tie down such a Universal Holy Man to the confinements of a country which no longer exists?

Grandmapele brought up a good point in that with Dr. Lobsang Sangay's education qualifications, he should have put much more importance in education of his people and yet they are still languishing in refugee status, working hard to etch a living. Are there any ulterior motives such as keeping them uneducated so that no questions/oppositions will arise from his bias policies and discriminatory distributions of sponsorship monies. Now this opens up another can of worms and shows up Sikyong and CTA's warp self serving rule.

[ShugdenProtector]

He said, "His Holiness the Dalai Lama belongs to Tibetans and only Tibetans have the right to recognise his reincarnation."


Source:
http://tibet.net/2017/02/one-must-understand-tibet-to-understand-china-sikyong-in-japan/

Any basic research into how the throne of the Dalai Lama got established would reveal the following which makes what Sikyong Sangay said look absolutely bogus and makes his PhD from Harvard, dodgy.

The following is obtained mainly from Wikiwand:

1. The 3rd Dalai Lama was actually the 1st Dalai Lama and installed by his patron and Mongolian warlord Altan Khan who called Sonam Gyatso "Dalai", Mongolian for 'Gyatso' (Ocean). The name "Dalai Lama", by which the lineage later became known throughout the non-Tibetan world, was thus established and it was applied to the first two incarnations retrospectively.

It was a convenient relationship. Altan Khan recognized Sonam Gyatso as the reincarnation of Drogön Chögyal Phagpa, and Sonam Gyatso recognized Altan Khan as the reincarnation of the great Kublai Khan.

2. The 4th Dalai Lama, Yonten Gyatso (1589-1617) was a Mongolian, the great-grandson of Altan Khan. He studied at Drepung and became its abbot but being a non-Tibetan he met with opposition from some Tibetans, especially the Karma Kagyu who felt their position was threatened by these emerging events; there were several attempts to remove him from power. Yonten Gyatso died at the age of 27 under suspicious circumstances.

3.  The government headed by the Mongolian-established Dalai Lama enjoyed the patronage and protection of firstly Mongol kings of the Khoshut and Dzungar Khanates (1642–1720) and then of the emperors of the Manchu-led Qing dynasty (1720–1912).

No Mongol kings, no Qing emperors, no Dalai Lama.

4. The Golden Urn refers to a method introduced since the 18th century to select Tibetan lamas. The 10th and 11th Dalai Lama was selected using this method.

Thank you Ringo Star for all this information and FACTS!

Now we know that it is NOT just the Tibetans that have the right to recognise his reincarnation and in fact China did play a part in the history of the Dalai Lama's lineage. So what on earth is Sangay talking about?

I guess China, Mongolia and Tibet is so delicately intertwined that to cut any of them off is to cut off a part of history. It would be much smarter for the CTA to actually find a way to work together with China instead of against as no benefit can come to them at all and the Tibetans in exile, but a lot can be done for them if they join forces and grow. They could be a powerful nation if they did join.

In terms of a Dharma perspective, aren't we all suppose to be not so attached? So why are Tibetans still so very attached to the past instead of moving forward? It may not be all peachy and rosy in Tibet but it could be if they join forces and work together I believe, especially once HH the Dalai Lama is gone, who will help them? USA racist Trump? No way.

[Matibhadra]

USA racist Trump?

Considering that Obama & Clinton dropped an average of 25.000 bombs per year on the heads of Afghanis, Syrians, Iraqis, Yemenis, Lybians, Sudanese, and so forth, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent dark-skinned people, it evokes curiosity that you have never come to this forum to label them as “racists” as you do with Trump, who has always opposed such bombings.

I find it regrettable that Soros-sponsored political hate-propaganda and dirty press fake news smearing are unconscionably parrotted on this forum, specially in such a clumsy way, as though Trump's honoring China's One-China policy (which his opponents and defamers did as well) could possibly have anything to do with “racism”.

Let's not forget that the fake news outlets systematically denigrating Trump as “racist” are precisely the same outlets systematically ignoring or whitewashing the evil dalie's brutality against Tibetans such as Shugdenpas, besides his other criminal deeds such as his brazen support to the murderous, racist, anti-Chinese 2008 Lhasa riots, his shameless support to self-immolations, his scandalous support to Islamic State terrorists, and so forth.

[michaela]

At the end of the day - the following article reflects what Sikyong Lobsang Sangay is looking for from the Japanese.

Sikyong Urges Japan to Support Middle Way Approach

TOKYO: The Tibetan political leader Dr Lobsang Sangay urged the Japanese government to support the Middle Way Approach of the Tibetan people towards seeking genuine autonomy for Tibet as it does not contradict China’s sovereignty and is a win-win solution for Tibetans and Chinese.

“We are seeking genuine autonomy for Tibet through non-violence and Chinese government can’t say no to this. During their meetings with His Holiness the Dalai Lama, former US Presidents Barack Obama have expressed their strong and consistent support for the Middle Way Approach as it does not contradict China’s sovereignty and One China Policy. Your support is not for the 6 million Tibetans but it is a support for justice, human rights and environment of Tibet,” Sikyong said during a public talk on the way forward to resolve the problem of Tibet in Tokyo. Around 300 people including writers, journalists and Tibetan supporters attended the talk.

Responding from question from Kyodo news agency, Sikyong said, “We also hope President Trump will continue the past tradition of US presidents meeting with His Holiness the Dalai Lama, support the Middle Way Approach and human rights of the Tibetan people,” said Sikyong. US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said he will continue to encourage dialogue between Beijing and representatives of the Dalai Lama or Tibetan “government in exile”. I will also encourage Beijing and the governments of all nations to respect and preserve the distinct religious, linguistic, and cultural identity of the Tibetan people worldwide.

Sikyong said to understand China, one must understand Tibet. “China is everywhere in Asia. All these happened because people did not paid attention to what happened in Tibet 60 years ago. Had Tibet was supported by the International community by all the Asian Buddhist countries, then we could have put a wall to China to move forward. When China occupied Tibet, many Asian countries or the international community supported us, then it kept expanding its influence to South East Asia and Senkaku island in east China sea,” Sikyong said.

Underlining the importance of Tibet’s natural environment, Sikyong said Tibet is considered as the water tower of Asia as 10 major rivers of Asia originate from the Tibetan plateau. Besides Antarctic and Arctic, Tibet has the largest reserve of ice. When ice in Antarctic and Arctic melts it flows into ocean, but when the ice in Tibet melts it forms rivers which becomes lifeline for more than a billion people in neighbouring Asian countries like China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.

Sikyong said His Holiness the Dalai Lama assured us that he will live up to 100 years and when he visits Japan this year, you will see him healthy and robust. He has outlived many Chinese communist leaders. Tibet is a land of Chenresig, the Buddha of Compassion, Tibet cannot be separated from the Dalai Lama.

There over 300-400 million Buddhists in China and thousands of Chinese come to Dharamsala in India to meet and listen to His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Few thousands came to Kalachakra teaching in Bodh Gaya. So there is no problem between Chinese and Tibetan people. The problem of Tibet is not Chinese people, but the Chinese government’s hardline policy.
Earlier in the morning, Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay visited the Office of Tibet and addressed members of the Tibetan community.

Sikyong explained that in the short, mid and long term interest of Tibet, the present Kashag has envisioned 5/50 policy in its effort to preserve the identity of the Tibetan people and restore freedom and dignity of the Tibetans. In order to realise our goal, we need to preserve our unique language, culture and religion. To keep alive our identity, we should have a sound knowledge of our religion, language and culture. As long as Tibetans remain, Tibet and our cause will remain alive.
Underlining that Tibetans in exile have the sacred duty to realise the Middle Way Approach, Sikyong said the Central Tibetan Administration, in the five years. will focus its effort towards resuming dialogue between His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s representative and the Chinese government to end the ongoing political repression, cultural assimilation, economic marginalisation and environmental destruction.

-Report filed by Office of Tibet, Japan-

http://tibet.net/2017/02/sikyong-urges-japan-to-support-middle-way-approach/

[Matibhadra]

At the end of the day - the following article reflects what Sikyong Lobsang Sangay is looking for from the Japanese.

Translating, the mini-puppet Sikyong mission to garner the support of extremist revivalist militarist neo-imperialist Japanese cracks against China has miserably failed, and he comes back ashamed and empty-handed to Dharamsala.

[Rowntree]

Anyone with common sense would first check the FACTS before commenting brainlessly. This Sikyong and his PhD could be bought for him. Otherwise, how would you explain him to be so illogical, stupid and incapable with his speech and his management of the Tibet-in-exile. After so many years of his leadership, you only see more and more requests from him for donations. Can you imagine after 58 years, the Tibet-in-exile is still where it is? Where did all the previous donations gone to? Where were they used? Well, obviously to travel to Japan for sure.