Can Oracles reincarnate as Oracles?

[Harold Musetescu]

Can a person who in his previous life was a recognized "Oracle" reincarnate as an "Oracle" in his next life?

If you have the blessing in this life to be recognized as an "Oracle" should that not continue in your next life time?

I am aware of family lineages of "Oracles", i.e. the Gadong and Lamo Tsangpa family Oracle lineage.

I am not talking about family lineages but of individual lineages.

If you in your previous life time took "recognized" trance say of "Namkar Barzin" it would make sense that it would carry on into your next life time.

We are all aware of "Tulku" lineages could there be "Oracle" lineages in Tibetan Buddhism?

[Harold Musetescu]

I feel that this is an unexamined area of Tibetan Buddhism.

I spoke with an "Oracle" some time ago and we discussed this very topic.

He felt that I may be right in my views about Oracles reincarnating as Oracles lifetime after lifetime.

He told me that the progression for an Oracle lifetime after lifetime would be to develop beyond going into a mere "Trance".

He felt that the highest level for "Oracles" would be to "Channel" a Dharmapala and not simple go into a "Trance".

To be wake and apart of the process and not to go and "fall asleep" during the visitation of the Dharmapala.

Waiting for another to tell you what had happen while you were "Asleep".

To have a Dharmapala live inside him 24 hours a day and not simply visit him from time to time.

To have a greater connection with his Dharmapala

Remember he told me that "I may be right" not that I was right.

[Vajra10]

Interesting question!

I would say that if an individual has been once as an oracle, one will definitely reincarnate as an oracle or a higher being, provided if one has truly practice in the past lives. Things happen for reasons, they will not happen for nothing. Try to look at ourselves, how are we doing in this life? If we are smart, we should start behaving before it's too late.

[Harold Musetescu]

 

[Harold Musetescu]

The answer is YES !!!

The Oracle that has returned is the Tengyeling Oracle of the now destroyed Tengyeling Monastery that was destroyed by the late 13th Dalai lama and his government.

The Oracle of Tsiu Marpo who is the Dorje Shugden dharmapala KACHE MARPO.

The Oracle of the Dorje Shugden dharmapala METHAR.

The Oracle of the Dorje Shugden dharmapala SHANGMO DORJE PUTRI.

The Oracle of the Dorje Shugden dharmapala NAMKAR BARZIN.

The Oracle of the pro Dorje Shugden dharmapala "POWERFUL HERO" aka PATSEL.

The Oracle of the dharmapala SHINJACHEN'S main minister JAGO THANGNAK.

The Oracle of the dharmapala THANGSPA KARPO the peaceful emanation of SETRAP.

FINALLY THE TENGYELING ORACLE IS ALSO THE ORACLE OF NONE OTHER THAN DORJE SHUGDEN.

YES HIGH ORACLES DO RETURN LIFETIME AFTER LIFETIME AS HIGH ORACLES.

THE PRESENT DAY TENGYELING ORACLE IS ALIVE AND WELL TODAY IN 2024.

[Harold Musetescu]

This is what happens when you betray an ORACLE !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-fACIz_f6k

A message from the Tengyeling Oracle.

[Harold Musetescu]

Tsem Rinpoche stated in his article about Methar and the Oracle of Tengyeling monastery.

" This marked the end of the Tengyeling Monastery and the line of Tengyeling oracles who took trance of Tsiu Marpo (Kache Marpo)."

Here is the link    https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/methar-of-tengyeling-monastery.html

Here is the reply from the current Tengyeling Oracle, GESAR KUTEN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWk-csvaBc