Is Peljor defending sexual abuse?

[Matibhadra]

Dont bother with Matibhadra, seriously. Hes got some sort of vendetta against Sogyal, involving the fellas name when this threads not even focused on him.

Wrong. This thread was started as a cheap vendetta against Peljor, precisely because he denounced infamous playboy Sogyal. Therefore, the focus of this thread is only infamous playboy Sogyal.

If hes so concerned about bloomin Sogyal,

Who is concerned with infamous playboy Sogyal are just those who unjustly accuse Peljor, in order to deflect attention from infamous playboy Sogyal.

then start up a thread and run a discussion about it.

The thread has already been started as an attempt to deflect attention from infamous playboy Sogyal to Peljor, and this wicked attempt is precisely what is being discussed here.

Lets see how far that gets you, talking about a lama thats not even from this lineage 

I could not care less about infamous playboy Sogyal's “lineage”. But since people like you unjustly attack Peljor in order to deflect attention from infamous playboy Sogyal, this is a good topic to discuss.

yeh so people want to discuss a Gelug 'monk' who initiates conversations that end up exposing Namgyal Monasterys sordid porn-distributing activities

Please show exactly where have you seen any evidence of “Namgyal Monasterys sordid porn-distributing activities”, so that we can compare it with the available evidence of infamous playboy Sogyal's sexual abuse and see what is more compelling.

which the Dalai Lama does nowt about.

Why should the evil dalie not know about “Namgyal Monasterys sordid porn-distributing activities”, if according to you it is so evident?

Besides, why should the evil dalie know less than Peljor about his own monastery?

You are obviously trying selectively to accuse Peljor while saving the face of the evil dalie, as you try to save the face of infamous playboy Sogyal.

And why do you attack Peljor? Because of his inummerable mistakes?

No! You attack Peljor precisely because of what he did not do (to defend sexual abuse) and because of what he did right (to expose infamous playboy Sogyal's history of sexual abuse).

Thats our perogative to talk this way and whats wrong?

Go ahead with you “prerogative”. And what is wrong with showing your cheap agenda?

Peljor starts up websites against Shugden people, runs Facebook groups against them, takes pictures of them and sends it off to his paymasters in Dharamsala, abandons his ordination master and whatnot... all of thats okay, nowt to be said about it

Had you read my posts, instead of idiotically talking about what you did not read, you would have seen that just the opposite is the case.

Indeed, no one has ever denounced Peljor as I have done on this website, and the reason is that I denounce Peljor in conjunction with his accepted authority, the evil dalie, while you and others denounce Peljor while hypocritically trying to save the face of the evil dalie.

You and others, just like Peljor, accept the evil dalie's authority, which shows that you and Peljor are not different, just servile minions of the evil dalie fighting each other for the attention and favors of your capo mafioso, the evil dalie.

BUT once talk starts up against him, Matibhadra comes out guns blazing?

This is because my criticism of Peljor is of a different nature from yours.

I denounce Peljor for his mistakes, and together with his accepted authority, the evil dalie.

Meanwhile, you attack Peljor when he is right, and motivated by the servile wish to compete against Peljor for the evil dalie's favors.

Is Matibhadra under Peljors thumb or summit, that he comes to the defence of someone who has made a career out of attacking up?

I would *love* to be attacked by Peljor! I have spent so much time writing so many posts criticizing Peljor on this very website, and till now nothing... You might start a petition asking Peljor to attack me and I'll be the first one to sign!

The reason why Peljor will never attack me is that he is afraid of my criticism, not of yours, just because my criticism hits the mark, shows his agenda, shows his connections, and shows the hierarchy to which he is subordinated, as opposed to your childish, cheap personal vendettas, which only show your subservience to the same authority served by Peljor, the evil dalie, and your wish to protect infamous playboy Sogyal.

You and Peljor are subordinated to the same authority, the evil dalie, which shows that your fight against him is just an infight among minions of the capo mafioso, the evil dalie, jealous of each other, crawling like worms for the favor of the evil dalie.

No, hes an odd fella getting upset when people talk about Peljor and ignoring his insistence we focus on Sogyal when the threads not even about Sogyal!

Topic already discussed; you are just repeating yourself. Anyway, you got it: the thread is all about covering infamous playboy Sogyal (and of course the evil dalie) with silly accusations against Peljor.

The title of this threads clear enough for all to see.

See, yes, that you want to cover infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse childishly accusing his denouncer Peljor of the same, but without any evidence.

A discussion about Peljors defence of sexual abuse,

How could anyone “discuss” what has never been shown to exist? Pretend that you have guts and show your evidence.

or at the very least how he contributes to the culture of silence.

What a step back from your previous accusation!

Before you said that Peljor “defends sexual abuse”, but you could never show it.

Now you reduce your accusation to merely “contributing to a culture of silence”...

But then in this you are not better than him, just because you are a supporter of infamous playboy Sogyal and of Peljor's accepted authority, the evil criminal dalie, about whom you want the most absolute silence, right?

Well keep talking about it and if people want to join in, its up to them. If they dont, perhaps they should move their discussion and pennies thoughts elsewhere.

Obviously it's *you* not wanting to talk about what matters, the infamous playboy Sogyal and the evil dalie, while hypocritically claiming to fight “the culture of silence” about sexual abuse and other crimes!

[Matibhadra]

Completely AGREE... IGNORE Miti...

You are asking others to do what you don't manage to do yourself!

he has some serious issues about expecting the world to accept his point of view and if they don't, everyone is wrong except him.

Do you call yourself “the world” and “everyone”? You might be in need of psychological help!

A double standard calling others double standard?

Show my “double standard”, please, instead of just belching about it.

So let us just move along and don't get sucked into giving him the attention he seeks.

Right! Let's talk about your infantile jealousy of Peljor, who enjoys the favors of the evil dalie while you feel abandoned by him!

[Matibhadra]

Peljor's behaviour, speech and thoughts are like that of the icchantika. The Buddha mentioned the Nirvana Sutra that the status of the icchantika is lower than that of ants. “One may well kill an ant and earn sin for doing harm, but there is no sin for killing an icchantika.” This is how destructive Peljor is.

And still you support Peljor's accepted authority, the evil dalie, whose commands Peljor follows and who therefore is much worse than Peljor himself!

[Matibhadra]

The Buddha mentioned the Nirvana Sutra that the status of the icchantika is lower than that of ants. “One may well kill an ant and earn sin for doing harm, but there is no sin for killing an icchantika.”

By the way, this assertion that murdering someone is no unskilful action is in contradiction with every single teaching of the Buddha, and therefore, even if authentic, could not be taken literally.

Taking this assertion literally would bring Buddhism, the Dharma whose essence is compassion, or non-violence, to the same level of murderous ideologies such as Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.

[AshRao]

It's quite obvious from the general consensus on this forum, and the fact that this Peljor's actions in the past have been hypocritical and down right not right, that he is not a good example of a monk. I remember what an old Tibetan man used to tell me, he said that the Buddha prophesied that the Dharma would not be destroyed from without (through wars, conflicts, influence of barbarism, etc) but from within. In that he meant that people who are supposed to be practicing Buddhism give it a bad name and corrupt it from the inside, like a bad rot. Peljor is part of this rot, and its devastating to see this happen.

He not only contradicts his gurus, and in the process belittling them, he defends sexual abuse which is barbaric in itself, and hurls hate towards others such as Dorje Shugden practitioners. What did we ever do to him? Even if someone did harm him, and that person happened to be a Dorje Shugden devotee it doesn't mean that he can label all Dorje Shugden devotees as bad. And all of his actions, thoughts that he shares is all about controversial topics, which means that he really just wants to be in the thick of it, where he is not needed or wanted. He just wants to get involved to make himself look better. That's all. And for him to do this being a monk, its stomach churning. What sort of monk behaves like this? I had many Tibetan monk friends, and most of them would always tell me that a monk needs to behave and act in a certain way, only then do they really become part of the sacred Sangha jewel. Unfortunately people like this Peljor pull the glory of the Sangha down in the eyes of others. I for one do not think less of the Sangha, but i could see why people would, if they take him as an example of what a monk should be.

It's sad and deplorable that the world has degenerated to such a position that people like Peljor can masquerade as monks, all the while only doing such negative deeds and worst of all defending the suffering caused to other through sexual abuse. It's disgusting.

[Matibhadra]

It's quite obvious from the general consensus on this forum, and the fact that this Peljor's actions in the past have been hypocritical and down right not right, that he is not a good example of a monk.

Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, is a much worse example of a monk, and still a lot of people on this forum would die for him.

Therefore, the criticism directed at Peljor, while saving the face of his boss the evil dalie, is itself deceptive and  hypocritical.

I remember what an old Tibetan man used to tell me, he said that the Buddha prophesied that the Dharma would not be destroyed from without (through wars, conflicts, influence of barbarism, etc) but from within.

The evil dalie is much more inside Dharma circles than Peljor. Why then to focus on outsider Peljor while allowing the mega-insider, the evil dalie, to get away with his crimes?

Now, Buddhism being destroyed from within does not mean that this internal destructive element is not controlled from without, just like a Trojan horse.

Indeed, the internal enemy of Buddhism, the evil dalie, is effectively controlled from the outside by his mleccha, barbarian Abrahamist puppet-master George Soros.

In that he meant that people who are supposed to be practicing Buddhism give it a bad name and corrupt it from the inside, like a bad rot. Peljor is part of this rot, and its devastating to see this happen.

While Peljor is a small part of it, the biggest part is Peljor's boss the evil dalie, who keeps corrupting and giving a bad name to Buddhism under the orders of his own boss, the Abrahamist George Soros.

For instance, how many people had bad feelings about, and distanced themselves from Buddhism, thanks to the ugly witch-hunt waged by the evil dalie against Shugdenpas?

Also, how many people were disappointed with Buddhism seeing the “Buddhist insider”, the evil dalie, brazenly supporting the Islamic State, self-immolations, bloody racist riots, and so forth?

To many people, Buddhism, particularly Tibetan Buddhism, was equated to a dirty ecclesial political organization at the service of disgruntled ex-slave-owners and of Western greedy imperialists.

Also, Buddhism is destroyed from the inside by the many “Buddhists” supporting the supreme insider bad rot, the evil dalie.

He not only contradicts his gurus, and in the process belittling them,

Talking about “contradicting and belittling gurus”, what about the evil dalie's brazenly contradicting and belittling his root gurus Ling Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche, let alone his lineage guru Pabongkha Rinpoche?

he defends sexual abuse which is barbaric in itself,

Which “sexual abuse” did Peljor defend? When and how did ever Peljor defend “sexual abuse”?

Since no one, including you, has ever been able to prove this slanderous statement, it is clear that you and others just want to deflect the attention from Peljor's own well-grounded, well-documented denunciation of infamous playboy Sogyal's shameful record of sexual abuse.

And let's not forget that infamous playboy Sogyqal is an evil dalie's close pal, and that the evil dalie does not say one single word of reproach about infamous playboy Sogyal, all of which clearly shows who engages in, and who defends and tries to cover sexual abuse.

and hurls hate towards others such as Dorje Shugden practitioners.

Right, and what about the chief witch-hunter, the evil dalie, do you still call him “His Holiness”?

By the way, I don't see one single mention to Peljor's boss the evil dalie in your whole post; does this mean that you are protecting him, the evil dalie, but lack the guts to openly confess to it?

What did we ever do to him?

To him who? To the evil dalie, whom you protect focusing instead on the minuscule Peljor?

What your Tibetan old man forgot to tell you is that dogs are angry with the stick hitting them, not with the person holding the stick. In the same way, some misguided Shugdenpas, like irrational dogs, are angry with the little stick Peljor, but subserviently melt in praises to the stick-holder, the evil dalie.

Even if someone did harm him, and that person happened to be a Dorje Shugden devotee it doesn't mean that he can label all Dorje Shugden devotees as bad.

The same logic applies to the evil dalie, who labels all Shugdepas as “enemies who want to shorten his life”, and this in a medieval society where being labeled the enemy of the ruling tyrant is tantamount to anything from social ostracism to a death sentence.

And all of his actions, thoughts that he shares is all about controversial topics, which means that he really just wants to be in the thick of it, where he is not needed or wanted.

Then according to you the evil dalie's ban on Shugdenpas is not “controversial”, right? Neither are his brazen support to self-immolations, to bloody racist riots, not to mention his disgusting support to Islamic State terrorism.

Therefore, according to you the evil dalie, who more than anyone else “wants to  be in the thick of it, where he is not need or wanted” is wholly nice and dandy, but you need to criticize his minion Peljor as a way of deflecting attention from his boss, the evil dalie.

He just wants to get involved to make himself look better. That's all.

And what about the evil dalie belching opinions about Putin in the Telegraph, just in order to look better to his Western bosses?

And for him to do this being a monk, its stomach churning.

The evil dalie is a “monk” as well, but strangely enough he does churn your stomach!

What sort of monk behaves like this?

This is an easy question to answer. The evil dalie is called a “monk” and does behaves like this, and indeed much worse.

The difficult question for you to answer is why do you attack so much Peljor while saving the face of his boss, the also “monk” evil dalie.

I had many Tibetan monk friends, and most of them would always tell me that a monk needs to behave and act in a certain way, only then do they really become part of the sacred Sangha jewel.

They were meaning that no monk should behave like the evil dalie, but you missed it.

Monks sometimes are very subtle, specially when living under unscrupulous tyrants such as the evil dalie.

Unfortunately people like this Peljor pull the glory of the Sangha down in the eyes of others.

And people like the evil dalie do what? They pull the glory of the Sangha up in the eyes of George Soros and the CIA?

I for one do not think less of the Sangha, but i could see why people would, if they take him as an example of what a monk should be.

You might consider thinking less of your very own self, considering your shameful support to Peljor's boss, the evil dalie.

It's sad and deplorable that the world has degenerated to such a position that people like Peljor can masquerade as monks,

And to which point did you degenerate yourself (while seeing degeneration in others), supporting as you do unscrupulous, murderous tyrants masquerading as “monks”, such as the evil dalie?

all the while only doing such negative deeds and worst of all defending the suffering caused to other through sexual abuse.

The accusation against Peljor that he “defends sexual abuse” has never been proven, whereby it is a mere slander, for your information also known in Buddhism as a serious negative deed, but in case engaged in by you, not by Peljor.

Besides, who is the “other” who suffered through a “sexual abuse” defended by Peljor? You are just deliriously fabricating a non-existent story out of your own sick imagination in order to incriminate someone else. What a shame!

Besides, if there is anything wrong going on in Namgyal Monastery, the responsibility falls on the  monastery's owner and supreme authority, the insider evil dalie, not on passing visitor the outsider Peljor, who did nothing at all. And still you want to deflect the evil dalie's responsibilty falsely accusing Peljor!

It's disgusting.

As often happens with hypocritical, sycophantic footlickers of propaganda established “authorities” such as the evil dalie, you are only talking about your very own self.

[Big Uncle]

Matibhadra,
What is the point of you dissecting and finding fault in everybody's opinion of things? Are you trying to defend Peljor and his nasty behaviour? Don't you find what Tenzin Peljor is doing is wrong, objectionable and although he may not be attacking Dorje Shugden directly. After all, he is another follower of the Dalai Lama and just twisting it back to the Dalai Lama does not make Peljor's actions any better. I find you a bit obsessive with getting at the Dalai Lama when it is really not about the Dalai Lama. 

[Matibhadra]

Dear Big Uncle, you say

What is the point of you dissecting and finding fault in everybody's opinion of things?

If the fault is there, what is the point of hiding it?

Are you trying to defend Peljor and his nasty behaviour?

Rather, I'm trying to expose the nasty behavior of people like you, who accuse someone of something he did not do, such as when you accuse Peljor of defending sexual abuse.

But since you pretend to believe that Peljor did defend sexual abuse, why don't you try and prove it, instead of merely criticizing me for defending Peljor from your false accusation?

Don't you find what Tenzin Peljor is doing is wrong, objectionable and although he may not be attacking Dorje Shugden directly.

While most everything that Peljor does is indeed awfully wrong and objectionable, whether related or not to Dorje Shugden, the fact remains that he has nowhere defended sexual abuse.

But even more wrong and objectionable is the fact that people choose to attack Peljor not for what he does, such as supporting the evil dalie, but for what he did not do, such as defending sexual abuse.

After all, he is another follower of the Dalai Lama and just twisting it back to the Dalai Lama does not make Peljor's actions any better.

Right you are, as it is precisely Peljor's subservience to the evil dalie, and Peljor's convoluted support to the evil dalie's wrong actions, what makes of Peljor such a bad character.

On the other hand, this is not a reason falsely to accuse Peljor precisely where he is innocent, such as of “defending sexual abuse”.

Actually, to your satisfaction, there is indeed one occasion where Peljor did defend sexual abuse, which is when he defended the evil dalie's thundering silence about evil dalie's pal infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse.

Bottom line, the only occasion where Peljor was not a bad person is precisely when he contradicted the evil dalie (denouncing evil dalie's pal infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse), and the only occasion where Peljor did defend sexual abuse is precisely when he supported the evil dalie (justifying the evil dalie's thunderous silence about his pal infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse).

Therefore, it is impossible to try and dissociate Peljor's good and bad actions from the background of the evil dalie's always bad actions, whereby whatever Peljor is, much worse is the evil dalie.

I find you a bit obsessive with getting at the Dalai Lama when it is really not about the Dalai Lama.

As above explained, it is not possible schizophrenically to dissociate Peljor's good and bad actions from the background of the evil dalie's always bad actions.

But since this is precisely what you and others cannot stop attempting at, you are unsurprisingly projecting on others the obsessive-compulsiveness characterizing your own schizophrenic attitude.

In the same way that the evil dalie scapegoats Shugdenpas for his own failures, also some so-called Shugdenpas try to scapegoat Peljor for their own frustrations, specially for the frustration of failing to receive the evil dalie's approval.

Such Shugdenpas cannot assimilate the fact that they are rejected by the evil dalie, and therefore project on competing followers of the evil dalie such as Peljor the hatred resulting from their own frustration.

Peljor and such so-called Shugdenpas are like wicked children fighting among themselves for the preference and favoritism of their wicked father, the evil dalie. Symptomatic that they indeed call the evil dalie their “father”.

Therefore, Peljor and such Shugdenpas are equally wicked, and none is better than the other. If anything, such Shugdenpas are worse than Peljor, because they neglect the teachings of their own pure lamas in favor of the evil dalie's fake glitter.

[Pema8]

Still fact is that Peljor is not doing his practice as he is busy looking around who he can slander about. I don't think that this is a very spiritual behaviour. As a monk he should be busy with his practice and meditation.

Instead he lets the world know what should be dealt with in the place itself. If sexual misconduct happened it is to be solved there instead of pointing fingers! Point your finger back at yourself!

[Matibhadra]

Still fact is that Peljor is not doing his practice

So what. Are you Peljor's disciplinarian now? Who pays your salary to control Peljor's or anyone's practice?

as he is busy looking around who he can slander about.

Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, cannot stop slandering Shugdenpas, Putin, Trump, China, Myanmar's and Sri Lanka's Buddhists, and so on.

Besides, the evil dalie silences about his pal infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse, thus effectively defending sexual abuse.

Still, instead of criticizing Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, you are obsessively concerned only with minuscule Peljor, which shows that your agenda is just to cover you hero the evil dalie's crimes.

You merely want to save the face of Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, when you accuse Peljor. Therefore, your criticism is not sincere.

I don't think that this is a very spiritual behaviour.

But you do think that the behaviors of the evil dalie and of infamous playboy Sogyal are “very spiritual”, which is why your opinion about Peljor is insincere, and thus irrelevant.

As a monk he should be busy with his practice and meditation.

Why then don't you complain about Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, who also transvestites as a “monk” but is only busy with slandering others, promoting witch-hunts, gruesome self-immolations, bloody racist riots, and other such barbaric acts?

Or are you suggesting that it is ok for infamous playboy Sogyal to engage in sexual abuse just because he is not a monk?

Instead he lets the world know what should be dealt with in the place itself.

Oh, I see, you want to defend infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse, right?

You are suggesting that Peljor should silence about infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse, and “deal with in the place itself”, instead of “letting the world know about it”.

In other words, you have just been caught red-handed defending sexual abuse and the culture of silence, while shamelessly accusing Peljor of the same!

If sexual misconduct happened it is to be solved there instead of pointing fingers!

In other words you defend a culture of silence, in order to protect your cult leader, the infamous playboy Sogyal.

This shows just how hypocritical you are when you point your dirty fingers at Peljor!

Point your finger back at yourself!

This is your own homework. And please clean your fingers.

[dsnowlion]

I was wondering how long it was going to take before Peljor used all of this as an opportunity for self-promotion. He never promotes Dharma teachings, Dharma articles or information. Only judgements, criticism and attacks. But if he was truly out to expose alleged abuses in Tibetan Buddhism, why does he then go to such lengths to debate against Sandra Mesrine? When will Peljor behave like a monk and not just wear the costume of a monk? Halloween's over.








You're right Peljor, do we rich Westerners have the right to condemn? Perhaps you should get rid of your website which does nothing but condemn everyone. While Sandra Mesrine agrees to disagree, and points out the problems that exist, Peljor doesn't even address her comment. Instead talks about his experience in India, and questions what's right and wrong. Is this 'monk' for real, excusing alleged abuse by saying that the youth would otherwise suffer poor living conditions? Hey, abuse is wrong, full stop, in whatever context it takes place in.

It is interesting that Peljor just ignored Sandra's comment about Dalai Lama's personal monastery of Namgyal monks enjoying pornography. Also there are many career monks in Namgyal meaning they only wear robes and stay near the Dalai Lama for financial gain. Of course if Peljor were to comment on this like the rest of us Westerners, it would make him look bad because the basis of his 'power' to judge and condemn others is his closeness to the sanctified Dalai Lama above all reproach. As a Westerner to me, no one is above reproach especially people of spiritual authorities. If the Dalai Lama, as Sandra said, is ignoring the career monks in his own monastery and ignoring the pornography, what does that look like? You guess. Peljor has to defend the Dalai Lama because it is not faith that draws Peljor to the Dalai Lama but it's a career. For Peljor all of this is simply a job and his robes are part of the uniform. Child molestation in any society is disgusting and should be dealt with by the law. Pornography in any monastery should be banned and stopped. The Dalai Lama allowing this in his monastery is well known and spoken in hushed tones among the Tibetans and Westerners (injis) in McLeod Ganj. Too bad Peljor is so biased in his views. Gotta keep the boss happy.




This monk keeps defending the potential for abuse that Sandra Mesrine is talking about. Why would anyone in their right mind defend sexual abuse? I find it pretty entertaining too that it's a bunch of white folk debating the culture of Asians (or Tibetans in this case), acting like they are experts because they spoke to some Asian friends. Interesting. Would the same people claim and insist they are experts and familiar with black culture? Don't think so.

I see how he disregards Sandra's statements, hushing her up and deviating from it. Well, this is what we discussing here and the above is proof that what he says is indirectly defending sexual abuse, porn and basically telling Sandra that she has no clue about Tibetan Lamas/monks and Buddhism. Well, he kind authorised himself to be the "police" for Tibetan Buddhism LOL

Anyway, all this also shows that he is indeed free as a bird! He sure can write a lot and talk a lot.. gossiping, creating schism and conflict. What kind of monk does this? It is okay to come on to social media to spread Dharma, but I have never seen any monks who is as active as him on social media, not very befitting of a monk.

[Pema8]

Dear Matibhadra,

Instead of dissecting my post, sentence by sentence and putting things between the lines I did not write and intend to write...

Just to let you know that sexual abuse is not ok and nobody should experience such thing. I think that if Peljor knew about it, he must declare it to the authorities, not to Facebook.

And by the way, you are caught spreading your stuff by using others comment! Write your own stuff - or are you the backseatdriver here?

Still fact is that Peljor is not doing his practice

So what. Are you Peljor's disciplinarian now? Who pays your salary to control Peljor's or anyone's practice?

as he is busy looking around who he can slander about.

Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, cannot stop slandering Shugdenpas, Putin, Trump, China, Myanmar's and Sri Lanka's Buddhists, and so on.

Besides, the evil dalie silences about his pal infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse, thus effectively defending sexual abuse.

Still, instead of criticizing Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, you are obsessively concerned only with minuscule Peljor, which shows that your agenda is just to cover you hero the evil dalie's crimes.

You merely want to save the face of Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, when you accuse Peljor. Therefore, your criticism is not sincere.

I don't think that this is a very spiritual behaviour.

But you do think that the behaviors of the evil dalie and of infamous playboy Sogyal are “very spiritual”, which is why your opinion about Peljor is insincere, and thus irrelevant.

As a monk he should be busy with his practice and meditation.

Why then don't you complain about Peljor's boss, the evil dalie, who also transvestites as a “monk” but is only busy with slandering others, promoting witch-hunts, gruesome self-immolations, bloody racist riots, and other such barbaric acts?

Or are you suggesting that it is ok for infamous playboy Sogyal to engage in sexual abuse just because he is not a monk?

Instead he lets the world know what should be dealt with in the place itself.

Oh, I see, you want to defend infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse, right?

You are suggesting that Peljor should silence about infamous playboy Sogyal's record of sexual abuse, and “deal with in the place itself”, instead of “letting the world know about it”.

In other words, you have just been caught red-handed defending sexual abuse and the culture of silence, while shamelessly accusing Peljor of the same!

If sexual misconduct happened it is to be solved there instead of pointing fingers!

In other words you defend a culture of silence, in order to protect your cult leader, the infamous playboy Sogyal.

This shows just how hypocritical you are when you point your dirty fingers at Peljor!

Point your finger back at yourself!

This is your own homework. And please clean your fingers.

Instead of dissecting my post, sentence by sentence and putting things between the lines I did not write and intend to write...

Just to let you know that sexual abuse is not ok and nobody should experience such thing. I think that if Peljor knew about it, he must declare it to the authorities, not to Facebook.

And by the way, you are caught spreading your stuff by using others comment! Write your own stuff - or are you the backseatdriver here?

[PrajNa]

I was wondering how long it was going to take before Peljor used all of this as an opportunity for self-promotion. He never promotes Dharma teachings, Dharma articles or information. Only judgements, criticism and attacks. But if he was truly out to expose alleged abuses in Tibetan Buddhism, why does he then go to such lengths to debate against Sandra Mesrine? When will Peljor behave like a monk and not just wear the costume of a monk? Halloween's over.

I thought perhaps it could be just to bring more viewers to his website that does not have many visitors. Why would real Buddhists read gossips and bad news about Buddhist monks and centers when there is not even enough time to read real Buddhist stuff, like Dzogchen for example.

I was quite disturbed when someone pointed out to me that perhaps he is obsessed with the topic of sexual abuse in a sick way. The person told me that beside his articles about sexual abuse on his website, Peljor also posts on twitter about sexual abuse and sex in general. I went on to see and here are some examples.

Why would a monk post about sex? 

Why would Peljor post about 10 nations where the penalty for gay sex is death anyway?

[Matibhadra]

I see how he disregards Sandra's statements, hushing her up and deviating from it.

So what. Maybe Sandra's statements did deserve to be disregarded, and Sandra did deserve to be hushed up, if this is indeed what Peljor did.

Besides, what did you see of so sacred in Sandra's statements that you don't even have the guts to quote them, knowing as you do that they lack any worth anyway?

Actually, if you go through Sadra's idiotic statements you'll see that they are worthless indeed, and that Sandra is just a militant hater of Buddhistic monastic tradition, and therefore of Gelugpas.

You will see as well her special love for Jewish orthodox rabbis, some of whom involved in the traffick of human organs so near to her in New Jersey, which explains her need to find fault in Buddhist traditional monastic education in far away India.

Well, this is what we discussing here and the above is proof

“The above” *what*? *Where*? *When*? Get the courage and quote the specific passage which you believe to be a proof of specifically what, instead of hiding yourself behind blanket accusations.

The fact that you eschew showing your supposed evidence is itself a proof of your lack of confidence in your own argument, and that you know perfectly that your contrived case does not hold water at all.

that what he says is indirectly defending sexual abuse,

What specifically did Peljor say that you don't even dare to quote?

Which supposed sexual abuse happened to whom, where, and when, that Peljor indirectly defended, and why do you believe that this is the case?

Since you lack the guts to show your evidence, this can only means that you have no evidence at all, and that just what you want is a cheap vendetta against Peljor, and just because he exposed infamous playboy Sogyal's ugly records of serial sexual abuse.

Now the appropriate question is: If Peljor defended infamous playboy Sogyal's ugly records of serial sexual abuse would you care to accuse Peljor of “defending sexual abuse”? And, in such case, would Peljor's defense of sexual abuse be “direct” or “indirect”?

But to your satisfaction, I can provide irrefutable evidence that Peljor does directly defend sexual abuse!

Indeed, this is precisely what Peljor does when he wrotes a whole article defending the evil dalie's thundering silence about infamous playboy Sogyal ugly and extensive records of sexual abuse.

But this proof you don't want to hear about and you deviate from, because it exposes your wicked cult leaders, the evil dalie and his pal infamous playboy Sogyal.

Therefore, here we are again where we started from: this whole thread is nothing but a cheap vendetta against Peljor, wrongly accusing him of “defending sexual abuse”, just because he denounced infamous playboy Sogyal's ugly records of serial sexual abuse.

porn

Would quote exactly where did Peljor “defend” porn?

Besides, where did you see “porn” except in the mind of militant anti-Buddhist hater and Jewish rabbi lover Sandra Mesrine?

and basically telling Sandra that she has no clue about Tibetan Lamas/monks and Buddhism.

Which is exactly the case, and Peljor did very well if he indeed told her what she had to hear. This by the way proves that Peljor with all his mistakes has his store of merits as well.

Besides, since when dismissing idiotic Sandra Mesrine, the one who says nothing about Jewish rabbis trafficking human organs, is tantamount to “defending sexual abuse”?

Well, he kind authorised himself to be the "police" for Tibetan Buddhism LOL

Actually the one who ridiculously gave herself this role is precisely Sandra Mesrine, the one who loves so much her Jewish rabbis, and says nothing about their traffick of human organs just next door to her, but who goes to far away India in order to find fault in Buddhist monastic tradition, and the one who sees “porn” everywhere.

Anyway, all this also shows that he is indeed free as a bird!

At least he had the freedom to expose infamous playboy Sogyal's ugly record of serial sexual abuse, which both you and rabbi lover Sandra Mesrine lack the freedom to.

He sure can write a lot and talk a lot.. gossiping, creating schism and conflict.

So what? Did you authorize yourself to be the “police” of Tibetan Buddhism?

What kind of monk does this?

Is it your job? Did you now become the “police” of Tibetan Buddhism?

It is okay to come on to social media to spread Dharma,

Why then do you come to social media, which this website is, to spread gossips about Peljor?

but I have never seen any monks who is as active as him on social media, not very befitting of a monk.

You are anyway a mere hater of Buddhist monastic tradition just like your porn idol Sandra Mesrine, the one who sees porn everywhere, whereby your opinion is irrelevant.

[Matibhadra]

Dear Pema8, you say

Instead of dissecting my post, sentence by sentence

You are afraid of having your post dissected, because you know that what you say does not bear analysis, and that your fraudulent speech is exposed for all to see through such dissection.

and putting things between the lines I did not write and intend to write...

These uncomfortable “things between the lines” are also known as “comments”, in case the comments exposing your lies.

And, just because the very nature of your fraudulent speech is not to write what you actually know to be the case, such comments indeed show what you did not dare to write or intend to write.
 

Just to let you know that sexual abuse is not ok and nobody should experience such thing.

Why then do you try to cover the infamous playboy Sogyal's ugly records of serial sexual abuse, accusing instead his exposer Peljor in such a cheap vendetta?

Therefore, you are guilty of the same defense of sexual abuse you ascribe to others, a well studied psychological unhealthy pattern known as “projection”.

I think that if Peljor knew about it, he must declare it to the authorities, not to Facebook.

The very victims reported it to authorities, and even went to court about it, whence the infamous playboy Sogyal's ugly records of serial sexual abuse.

But I see that allowing the public to know about infamous playboy Sogyal's ugly records of serial sexual abuse is, according to you, the same as “defending sexual abuse”, right?

Anyway, whether Peljor is right or wrong, you should have the guts to tell it directly to him, instead of cowardly doing so on this forum and in this website which have absolutely nothing to do with him.

And by the way, you are caught spreading your stuff by using others comment!

Caught? By whom? Where? When? Which stuff?

Besides, since it's “my stuff” what I am spreading, how could it possibly be “others comment”?

Maybe you just drunk too much before writing your post.

Write your own stuff - or are you the backseatdriver here?

Since it's you criticizing Peljor, ridiculously screaming at him in the wrong place how he should or not behave, there is no other backseat driver here other than “Pema8”.