how does it make me unkind or insecure when i cannot understand the whole anti DL thing and how can it be beneficial to practicing Shudgen?
I agree that you do not seem to understand the issue, but this does not at all make you unkind. I was referring to your tone, which seems to me to be condescending. It is the internet, after all, so of course I could be wrong, misreading your tone. But it seems to pop up in post after post. Please excuse me if I am incorrect.
does it make him help us faster if we talk about how DL suppressed his practice?
No, Dorje Shugden is already helping us as fast as we are able to be helped. The point of the demonstrations and the book is entirely other.
secondly, is it that him talking about DL in this way makes him secure and kind? how different is his statements or those statements about how DL is a demon etc and things like that than someone asking not to make those statements?
This is a rather sudden turnaround, from "I have great respect, the reincarnation of Chandra and Mila, my guru's guru..." indeed.
Of course, no one knows Zong Rinpoche's mind other than himself and the enlightened beings, but I feel confident that he
was both secure and kind. Do you think his statements indicate he is anything other? That is how you tend to respond here, calling "hate" and "anger" every time you see a view that deviates from the current undigestible nonsense of "DL is spreading the DS practice." I really do think this is something one might hope to be true so that one can keep imagining that samsara is just a cosy pair of bunny-print pyjamas. In truth, Zong Lama was just fearless, and he said what he thought. This was a well known attribute of ZR.
How different are his words from words about DL?
1. There was no political motivation in his speech
2. He didn't repeat it in public over and over in public and advise that DL be banned.
3. He didn't use political power to enforce his beliefs where he had no right and no authority to do so, damaging the spiritual life of thousands and thousands.
I myself do not go in for saying that the Dalai Lama is a demon, so I would be careful in that regard. I am, however, very comfortable saying he is a liar, etc. because this is true, and easily verified.
For you to ask others not to make these statements, that is just fine, as long as you are prepared to be resoundingly ignored. As you are powerless to enforce your views, your speech and the DL's speech are very different. So of course you are free to say what you like.
I am not complaining about this, other than finding the point of view you subscribe to uninteresting, a product of that heady mix religious/politics the Tibetan religion is coming to be known for.
What I was remarking on is how condescending you can seem in your tone, and trying perhaps to make you aware of how you are coming across. I am an outspoken type of person, and don't bite my tongue. Perhaps I am being a real jerk as well.
so making baseless attacks against me is somewhat better than me?
Sorry if you perceived my words as attacks on you, I was trying to point out how your words seem, I am sure you are a perfectly decent person. Moreover, I am quite convinced I am not better than you.
good luck!
