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christine V

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In recent news, Lobsang Sangay condemn that China should not talk about human rights. To me, He should be the one who stopped talking about Human Rights, especially looking at how he rule the Tibetan Refugees, which obviously have violated the human rights by having Dorje Shugden's ban. Ban Dorje Shugden's devotees to hospital, ban to school, seperate the monasteries, ban the Dorje Shugden's practitioners to work in government sector. Compare to China, he should shut his mouth on Human Rights!

One thing, in this press that caught my eyes is Lobsang Sangay have to play the card of "human rights" because many countries are now no longer talking about Tibet. To get back the attention of these countries, he played the card of human rights again to condemn on China to get attention. Instead of travelling to countries on the donation fund he get, condemn China to all the countries, he should think about how to make peace with China, how to get the peoples in his refugees camp to united. NOT TRAVELING around to create bad images on China. How would China wanted Tibetans in exile to return to China if Lobsang Sangay acted this way?

7 years, the China have no interest to even talk to CTA, did Lobsang Sangay just realized the facts that China do not need to talk to them? On what basis now that China wanted to talk to them? In the eyes of China, they are already exile. Doesn't this is something sound urgent for the Refugees in Tibet? If so, why CTA still continue they are divide and rules game to separate their people? They should unite their people now.

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Tibetan Pres to the world: 'Don't give China a free pass on human rights"

Monday, 27 November 2017 11:27 Molly Lortie, Tibet Post International
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Tibetan President Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay on BBC on November 24, 2017, concluded his five-country international tour in London, telling the BBC on November 24 that the free world, "don't give a free-pass on human rights" to China.

In an interview with BBC, the Tibetan President spoke on how China's growing economic presence has diminished some important international issues, "Not just Tibetan cause. Generally human rights, democracy, environmental rights, all these discourse are diminished or diluted in all the countries where they have free trade agreement. Now in the 19th Party Congress Xi Jinping has said, Xi Jinping’s thought is socialism with Chinese characteristic in new era which means no liberal democracy, no freedom of speech, no election just one party rule. That is what they are bringing to the table.

"In new era means the international frontier, international community. So thats the challenge. And hence I have been to Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Norway just recently and they all don’t want to talk much about Tibet, human right, democracy. This is you know quiet scary because there is lot of self censorship going on.

"Of course you must have free trade, you must engage with China, but don’t give free-pass on human rights."

Speaking on China and the Middle Way Approach, the President said, "All I am doing is advocating the basic rights of the Tibetan people, genuine autonomy within China within the framework of the Chinese constitution. And what we promote is dialogue between the envoys of Dalai Lama and representative of the Chinese government. So this is a very reasonable, non-violent, peaceful way of solving the issue of Tibet.

"Since January 2010, it has been now more than 7 years there has been no dialogue between the envoys of the Dalai Lama and Chinese representative. And we would like to see that the Issue of Tibet resolve peacefully.

"I don’t think they [China] will meet with me, but at least they should meet with the envoys of The Dalai Lama. You know he is a spiritual leader and he is most revered around the world, and he is very reasonable as well. And I hope President Xi Jinping in his second term will look at Tibet as low hanging fruit because in second term normally they do deal with complicated issues like Barack Obama dealing with Iran and Cuba. Hopefully, President Xi Jinping will you know continue his father’s legacy. His father was very close to the Late Panchen Lama, he was very familiar with the Tibet issue. Hopefully you know, Xi Jinping will be like his father," the Tibetan leader told noted TV journalist Yalda Hakim on her program 'The Impact'.

Regarding His Holiness the Dalai Lama, he said, "His Holiness the Dalai Lama recently told a group of youth who had come from all over that I will be travelling more on his behalf, and I’ll do so. But His Holiness is very healthy, he will be traveling to various countries around the world and he is the best spokesperson and the best face for the Tibetan cause. I won’t be able to fill in his shoes but he is definitely sharing or giving me more responsibilities and I will do the best I can."

Source: http://www.thetibetpost.com/en/news/international/5820-tibetan-pres-to-the-world-dont-give-china-a-free-pass-on-human-rightsq

Ringo Starr

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Re: Lobsang Sangay- you are disqualified to talk about Human Rights!
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2017, 07:08:16 PM »
Harvard Doctorate speak with forked tongue.

grandmapele

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2017, 02:42:56 AM »
Lobsang Sangay is hoping to be making so much noise about the Human Rights abuse by China and barking and barking to create so much noise and distraction that, hopefully, the watchers will be focused on China and not look for any abuse within the Tibetan settlements and community.

Hey, come on, they blatantly put up signs at monasteries, hospitals and any commercial concerns that discriminate against a certain group i.e. Dorje Shugden practitioners and no one said anything. Silence means consent, right??

They are the "untouchables", right? When, the hell, did the CTA develop this much sense of entitlement?

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 08:57:24 AM »
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Lobsang Sangay has as much dirt on him as China whom he is accusing of when it comes to human rights suppression and even violations. But guess it is very typical of Tibetan leadership to shout out issues and “wrongdoings” of other to draw attention away from their own failures or atrocities. It is a dirty tactic which the Tibetan leadership “re-hashes” all the time as for some reason it has worked in their favour. Fortunately, more and more people, particularly Tibetans are beginning to wizen up to the Tibetan leadership’s shenanigans and even began to bravely vocalise about the Tibetan leadership’s inappropriate and becoming actions.

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2017, 10:03:21 AM »
Dorje Shugden practitioners don't give you a free-pass either for human rights, Sangay! What are you talking about? Better start to give all Tibetans a better life!

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"Tibetan President Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay on BBC on November 24, 2017, concluded his five-country international tour in London, telling the BBC on November 24 that the free world, "don't give a free-pass on human rights" to China."

grandmapele

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2017, 06:43:48 AM »
@Celia, the CTA are are shouting and jumping up and down and pointing fingers in the hope that they can distract the Tibetans and the world enough for them not to look at what CTA is doing. That is reminds me so much of the TV series, Spin Doctors and the movie, Wag the Dog.

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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2017, 07:31:52 AM »
Think about this, Mr. President Lobsang Sangay, if you and your elite group were to ever return to China, you will have to be accountable, you will not be able to solicit donations without the perceived cause of benefitting the Tibetans in exile.

And you will have to be accountable with China state funds to make Tibetans in China educated, learned and sustainable.  You will have to be transparent.

So have you truly tried to reconcile with China, it will not be to your advantage.

The Dalai Lama travels to teach the Dharma and you to smear China's reputation on the world stage.  Are you politically savvy enough to talk to China. 

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2017, 08:55:15 AM »
Tibetan President Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay said "All I am doing is advocating the basic rights of the Tibetan people.....".

Mr President, how about those Tibetan people that practice Dorje Shugden? They are banned from shops and restaurants, clinics and monasteries, banned from holding government jobs, positions or offices, and are barred from public talks given by the Dalai Lama. Where is their right on freedom to religion?

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2017, 03:57:36 PM »
What is Lobsang Sangay talking about? Does he even know what human rights is? What he is currently doing to the Tibetans-in-exiled is totally opposite of what he just said in the article and he does not care even if the person self-immolate themselves. Is this how a Prime Minister should think and behave? He should really think thoroughly before he act and talk or else he will disgrace himself even more. He is the only Prime Minister who is not qualified to talk about human rights.

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2017, 05:08:42 PM »
"I don’t think they [China] will meet with me, but at least they should meet with the envoys of The Dalai Lama. You know he is a spiritual leader and he is most revered around the world, and he is very reasonable as well. And I hope President Xi Jinping in his second term will look at Tibet as low hanging fruit because in second term normally they do deal with complicated issues like Barack Obama dealing with Iran and Cuba."
Lobsang Sangay said.
To China, China will say,
"So what? Nothing to do with me, you all left Tibet in the past, that was your lost. China door is opened for you, Tibetan in exile. You all don't want to come back to China, I can't do anything. What is it to talk about with Dalai Lama and you, Lobsang Sangay?"
Being a Sikyong, a so called president, I hope he knows that now the whole world befriended China, going around the world and talk bad about China in front of other countries will only makes him look more childish and dumb. I think he knows that. Or, maybe he's too dumb to know that.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2017, 12:53:16 AM »
The CTA has no real security, so they cannot be accused of manhandling anyone on an official basis. Whatever such "enforcement" there is, is carried out by the society itself. They are using neighbors to police neighbors, reminiscent of the Eastern German regime, Stasi where "through a vast network of informants and unofficial collaborators (inoffizielle Mitarbeiter), who spied on and denounced colleagues, friends, neighbours, and even family members." - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stasi

So, here they can claim that it is not them but the people being loyal to the Dalai Lama and following his advice. Very subtle.

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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2018, 05:00:37 PM »
Dr. Lobsang Sangay has encouraged discrimination toward his political opponents such as Lukar Jam, and also treating Shugden people as his scapegoat to over all his political failures. This is not in accordance with the democratic principles that is included in the charter of the Tibetans in exile.

What rights that he has to talk about human rights when he is not respecting the human rights himself. What a hypocrite!

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 04:56:33 AM »
Dr. Lobsang Sangay has encouraged discrimination toward his political opponents such as Lukar Jam, and also treating Shugden people as his scapegoat to over all his political failures. This is not in accordance with the democratic principles that is included in the charter of the Tibetans in exile.

What rights that he has to talk about human rights when he is not respecting the human rights himself. What a hypocrite!

Yup he is the biggest hypocrite and liar and his time is running short because once HH the Dalai Lama returns to Tibet even for a visit, it will mean his position will soon no longer be required. What is he going to do in Tibet? He cannot be a PM there. I think he is just hanging around milking as must from the west as he can to ensure his retirement is secured.

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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 09:10:29 PM »
Lobsang Sangay is really arrogant and demanding. I am not surprised at all since this is one of the main reasons why he is unsuccessful. He has a degree from Harvard, yet he has a level of leadership of a 5-year-old toddler - everything evolves around his benefits but nothing more. The main issue is his stupidity in going against China while leaders of other countries, including the US, are already working closely with China for all the benefits China has to offer. Helping Tibetans-in-exile has proven to be useless because after 58 years, the conditions for Tibetans in India have not improved, and the people remain backward and continued being denied their rights to speak, to practice etc. which should not be the case if democracy is truly practiced under the CTA's governance.