Hello Unquestionable
Strike FOUR against you.
You stated in your last post -
"Interesting how you state this lama of his in a negative way. If that's the case, wouldn't technically every lama that isn't a Shugdenpa be under this category? The ........ the Karmapa.......".
Sorry put you are WRONG AGAIN.
The previous and present Karmapas are pro Dorje Shugden unlike your anti Dorje Shugden teacher.
Here is a link to a post I did about the Pro 16 and 17 Karmapas.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6124.0Harold Musetescu
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"16th Karmapa publicly PRAISED King Dorje Shugden in 1976"
« on: May 17, 2018, 03:05:35 AM »
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We know that the 17th Karmapa has public stated that the then 5th Dalai Lama murdered Karma Kagyu Tulkus and destroyed both their lineages and monasteries.
Were you also aware that the 16th Karmapa was publicly PRO Dorje Shugden?
Here is my link to the story about the 17th Karmapa and what he said at the Kagyu Monlam in 2018.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6035.0On March 12, 2016 Tsem Tulku wrote an article about how the 16th Karmapa was PRO Dorje Shugden.
It was titled "The Prophecy of the 16th Karmapa".
Here is the link
http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/the-prophecy-of-the-16th-karmapa.htmlHis article states that as far back as 1976 the 16th Karmapa had publicly praised King Dorje Shugden.
Here are quotes from Tsem Tulku's article.
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In 1976, His Holiness the 16th Karmapa Rangjung Rigpe Dorje graced the opening of Urgyen Rinpoche’s new monastery called Ka-Nying Shedrub Ling in Nepal and gave a prophetic proclamation. This Nyingma monastery was built on a farmland just north of the ancient and legendary Boudhanath Stupa in Kathmandu...This monastery was built under the guidance and direction of the 16th Karmapa....According to an account in Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche’s collected works (sungbum), the Karmapa came across a statue of Dorje Drolo during an inspection of the new monastery. Dorje Drolo is a wrathful emanation of Guru Rinpoche. This particular image was pressing down upon a smaller figure of a monk with a round hat, under his feet, that resembled the Dharma protector Dorje Shugden. The Karmapa stood in the presence of the statue for a while and then pointed at the statue and asked, “Who is the person that ask for this statue to be made? This isn’t Nyingma nor Sakya, certainly not Gelug and not Kagyu either. I didn’t ask for it to be made! This is not one of the deities you can rely on…”
“Although the time is a little early, in the future you will definitely need to rely on this deity (Dorje Shugden).”– His Holiness 16th Karmapa
The Karmapa was speaking to a line of abbots and masters but nobody came forward to own up. So, the Karmapa ordered for the statue to be removed immediately. A man came up with an axe and a shovel to remove the image. The Lamas who were present would definitely remember this incident and in the account, a seventy-five year old man from Chamdo by the name of Samcho had witnessed this.
This prophecy by His Holiness Karmapa is an unusual one because he had no known history or prior relations to the practice of Dorje Shugden. The Karmapa himself is the head of Karma Kagyu and there is no known history between the Karma Kagyu and the practice of Dorje Shugden either. The prophecy could be indicating that when the political issues surrounding the practice ceases to be, there will be future growth and proliferation of Dorje Shugden’s practice. Karmapa was known for his powerful clairvoyance. When he made such a prediction, it will come true. THE 16TH KRMAPA AND THE CURRENT ONE HAS NEVER MADE ONE NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT DORJE SHUGDEN EVER......".
Well "Unquestionable" if my count is right that's SRIKE FOUR.
Thanks for making me look sooooo GOOD and you sooooo DUMB.
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