Hello STUPID people.
High Lamas engage in the "Consort Practice" which is the highest level of "Tantric Practice".
All so could you all just grow up with your child like moronic question of "CTA tell us who is the real Karmapa".
The CTA and the Dalai Lama have publicly stated since 1992 that Ogyen Trinley Dorje is the 17th Karmapa.
What part of that answer don't you get. 
You all pretend your Buddhists seeking enlightenment but act more that gossipy old women.
Grow the "F" up.
Bloody lame excuse.
1. Karmapas are supposed to be enlightened beings who reincarnate to benefit all sentient beings. WTF do they need to engage in HYT?
2. HYT practitioners, assuming they practice the father-mother practices, need both to be qualified practitioners. Nothing in the scandalous testimonial suggests that the girl or girls are even practitioners, not to mention HYT practitioners. They are just young girls.
Maybe you say all these things not that you're ignorant of it but you embrace all this F-ing around.
Here is a link to the 17th Karmapa Thaye Dorje website.
It discusses how the 15th Karmapa had 3 children.
https://www.karmapa.org/karma-kagyu/lives/15th-karmapa-khakyab-dor
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He went on to teach and give empowerments throughout Tibet, and preserved many rare texts by having them reprinted. Unlike the previous Karmapas, Khakyab Dorje married, and fathered three sons, two of whom he recognised as the second Jamgon Kongtrul and the twelfth Shamarpa, Jamyang Rinpoche.
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Seem the 15th Karmapa had no problems with a consort practice but it appears you do "Ringo Starr"
Your name sake "Ringo Starr" had many and numerous consorts in his practice as a Beatle.
So Mr Starr tell all of us your high tantric background so as to be able to judge the Karmapa.
You are right that the 15th Karmapa married and had kids, and two of whom were recognized as Tulkus. I think Karmapa Thaye Dorje has done the same and his son I could be the reincarnation of the Sharmapa. However, philanderers they were not as they got married to the partners.
You are also right that I am not able to judge the Karmapa but here are the facts from a respected authority, Dr Alex Berzin:
"In the final stages of the path of the highest class of tantra, the advanced yoga methods for drawing the energy-winds into the central channel do entail a man and woman sitting in a posture of union. Far from being exploitative, however, both partners are required to have reached the same advanced level of spiritual development. This includes both having reached the level of control of their subtle energies and their minds so that even though the bottom tips of their central channels touch, both avoid orgasmic release.
Sitting in such a yogic posture while engaging in complex visualizations and meditating on voidness is only done to enhance the practice on the most advanced levels. It is not done as the main practice or engaged in regularly, and is certainly not a practice for earlier stages of the path.
Moreover, to avoid any possibility of misogyny, machismo, or male chauvinism, one of the tantric vows is to refrain from ever speaking badly or mistreating women."
