You are right these are not easy questions to answer. They are also completely irrelevant to the present discussion.
However "which high Gelug lamas currently recognize Serkong Tritul and Jamseng as Atisha and Dromtonpa" is a very simple question and I wonder why you cannot answer it?
Dear Lone Hermit aka Wang,
These questions has high relevancy to the present discussion, as to certify whether you fit to criticize someone else by gauging your level of Dharma understanding. You had unanimously admitted defeat by admitting that the questions are not easy to answer reflected that you do not have any true understanding in Buddhism, let alone to criticize someone above you. I can pick up a few aunties who have been attending classes regularly able to answer one or two of the above questions.
You are alike a blind person trying to debate and tell other people that an elephant is thin, base on just touching its tail only. A truly learned Geshe is able to answer any Dharma questions without flinching. I am presenting you the opportunity to ask anyone around you to answer the poised questions.
Everyone here including WB and Thaimonk can see that the high ranking Lamas had offered scarfs to HH Serkong Tritul Rinpoche during the certification. As to whom had certified Serkong Tritul Rinpoche, I may let you know in due course. Do I have to repeat myself again that Jamseng Rinpoche was certified by Tritul Rinpoche and had been enthroned in Garden monastery?
Serkong Tritul has rediscovered "pure Kadampa" and in seeking to establish a new tradition separate from the Gelugpas (who according to everyone else have for nearly 700 years been the legitimate spiritual heirs and holders of the Kadampa lineages) is suggesting that in some way the Gelug tradition is impure or corrupt. As I said before this would probably come as a surprise to most of our Lamas. And does it mean we have all been following a degenerate and mistaken spiritual path all along?
Excuse me, it is recovery of Kadhampa sect, NOT rediscovery. Kadhampa is recovered in 2008 due to the sensitive issues present within Gelugpa. Quit your acting and by now everyone or most of us even here including you understand about the present status of Gelugpa.
Je Tsong Kha Pa see the ultimate benefit for the sentient beings to establish a new sect out of his previous old sect is also due to the corruption in the previous one. He had re-organized and refined teachings ever since the establishment of Gelugpa. So are you going to criticize Je Tsong Kha Pa for establishment of new Buddhist sect? As mentioned in the youtube by Dromtug Rinpoche, it is changing the soup base without changing the medicine.
Serkong Tritul has abandoned the practice of the Protector and seems to use the continued propitiation of him as the basis for his decision to re-establish the pure Kadampa tradition:
www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.msg2886#msg2886
Maybe he is 100% correct but given the doubts about his authenticity I think some real evidence as to the divine status he accords himself and his main disciple is a very reasonable request. You can make whatever claim you like but where's the proof?
Again have you seen the Lamas offering of scarfs from Shar Garden to Dromtug Rinpoche? There is a difference between choosing not to practice and total deny or reject of the Dorje Shugden? Kadhampa is the former. I can choose to buy noodles, does not means that I dislike eating rice. (I guessed I have to talk layman terms to you, so that I don't have to repeat myself)
Dear lone Hermit,
I would like to kindly to invite you to a debate and please kindly answer the following questions:
1) Can we take refuge to the worms feasting in a pool of feces?
2) Can we take refuge to Buddha's Sariras?
3) Is no self is emptiness?
These questions may look ordinary but they are not easy to answer and you may want to seek for assistance from Geshes and Rinpoches that you may know.
You have been repeating questions which i had already answered, so
I am kindly repeating my challenge to you for a Dharma debate base on the three questions poised as above. Let's challenge on teachings and do not disappoint me, unless you do admit defeat that you do not have the ability or the right to criticize.
I hope that you do not ask non common sense questions anymore or repeated questions that have answered before.
